Micro 991: Names on the List [game over!]

[Ahsoka]

The way you did it didn't feel genuine though. You were like "how does gimli's last post ever come from scum" and I repeated a point that I had been saying for a while (gimli not going into depth in the places where I feel like he should) and then you said "ok I can kinda see that".

I don't understand what you're saying

[Infinity 324]

876 is very transparent. I don't understand how there can be people scumreading Gimli.

I don't understand how that's not fakeable?

Do you think it's fake?

I don't think there's anything in particular that makes it towny. I find that it's not too hard for scum to fake a step-by-step logic process like that. And he keeps writing stuff like this

all of her posting to clidd (216-18-21-22-31-34) is the most genuinely towny thought process anyone has made in this game.

which just feels like the part he would want to explain in depth if town. But it's mostly a gut read, I admit.

Hum.

I understand what you are saying, although I have been getting a towny impression of Gimli during much of the game.

This didn't feel like a genuine progression from clidd.

[clidd]

Do you get something ai from that?

[DkKoba]

*climbs in deeper in Infinity's pocket*

[Infinity 324]

The AI part is that it made me doubt my TR on you.

PEdit: ok koba but can you help me solve or something?

[clidd]

[clidd]

I'm going to rest now, I need a decent sleep to think about the game tomorrow.

[DkKoba]

The AI part is that it made me doubt my TR on you.

PEdit: ok koba but can you help me solve or something?

Im demotivated this game. really dont like quickhammers and normally i just policy and the person flips scum but the person who did doesnt have thag as their meta.

[Infinity 324]

[quote="In post 1005, clidd"][/quote]

In other words: it was scummy. I think you could be scum as a result.

[DkKoba]

i feel like this is infinity's towngame after having caught him before. i mean he might have adjusted his scum game to make sure i can't catch him but im definitely fooled here LOL

[Ahsoka]

Alright, so I think that Infinity's probably the town getting pocketed of the 3.

[Ahsoka]

ashoka is playing an agenda and purposefully glossing over facts. I jusr woke up(my sleep schedule is fucked) but I'll explain later.

I always am playing to an agenda.

But I'm not purposefully glossing over facts.

I'm challenging them because I'm trying to see their direct line of thinking, and if you possibly think I'm scum here after the games we've had, then lol.

[Ahsoka]

game*? Idk. I guess that's not enough. They're getting what's called the Third Degree Boon.

But I was waiting for scum to try and discredit me. It was half the reason for my back and forth.

I expected it to come from one of them or Not Mafia, to be honest.

[DkKoba]

ashoka is playing an agenda and purposefully glossing over facts. I jusr woke up(my sleep schedule is fucked) but I'll explain later.

I always am playing to an agenda.

But I'm not purposefully glossing over facts.

I'm challenging them because I'm trying to see their direct line of thinking, and if you possibly think I'm scum here after the games we've had, then lol.

you know my MO. i dont like being on a consensus wagon that is town on d1 as scum.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

Hullo!

I'm clearing ahsoka and un-clearing clidd. Ahsoka's string of posting today is only less towny than some parts of raya's d1.

I need to worldbuild with these new developments so this will take a while.

Ahsoka, you are so important for town, you have no idea. I was starting to feel like the game was lost after my conversation with clidd yesterday, and I didn't want to say how scummy I think his d2 has been but I'm quite alarmed that clidd did not even try to solve the game from a POE standpoint. He made like no solvey posts this phase, coasting and asking questions, and it makes very little sense with how I assume his personality as a mafia player is. What you did just now POEing down the game is what I expected from all town players.

[DkKoba]

gimli do you think "being solvy"=town?

[DkKoba]

a lot of what ur scumhunting has consisted can be boiled down to teamreads and behavioral things.

but nothing that implies that one is informed or not.

except your horsewoman backpedal, where you accused of TMI(which is accusing them of being, informed. which is the goal)

I think part of why you aren't interacting with me is because I am asking hard questions and you want to avoid answering them.

[Infinity 324]

Koba, readslist?

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I don't talk to you because you're disingenuous and everytime I did it it made me anxious and didn't help the game state in any way that's worth it. I'll keep doing that so save the questions xoxo.

[DkKoba]

Koba, readslist?

i see what you're trying here

townreads: infinity
townleans: raya
not_mafia tier, but not scumtelling: not_mafia
null:amele
scumlean: ahoka
scumread: gimli, clidd

[DkKoba]

I don't talk to you because you're disingenuous and everytime I did it it made me anxious and didn't help the game state in any way that's worth it. I'll keep doing that so save the questions xoxo.

how am I disingenuous?

i'd like to note that i myself have anxiety as a person. I have anxiety in these situations:

someone I fear as scum I'm unsure on
I'm in a game where I dont know PRs and im afraid to push on one

I'm scum and I know someone is town and I'm afraid they might obvtown if i push there
I'm scum and someone is asking me hard questions

I made a slight slip as scum and feel like someone might catch it

what about you? what gives you anxiety in games? because the way you frame it is an excuse not to answer questions.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12479196]
I don't think I'm following the 287 and 288 point about Horsewoman and Koba? Could you go into more depth with that?
[/quote]
Thank you for reading and discussing my post, raya.

I don't think I explained what I saw in 287 and 288 well. I feel like horsewoman's post to koba ('I'd vote you on page 2 as well') followed by a reasoned suspicion of me for lazily reading koba's posts as scummy is a nuanced enough stance to make me feel they are not too likely svs together. All my premises after clearing you and clidd were increasingly weak and I expected those interactions to be dissected by town today so we can figure things out. I'm un-clearing clidd, I certainly don't feel strong enough about him being town now to defend him against you and ahsoka who I feel more strongly is town after her d2 posting.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I just have anxiety like, the syndrome.

[DkKoba]

That is what I meant.

I would be extremely cross with you if you are using said disorder as an excuse in a game to not answer questions.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I don't wanna talk about my issues but you're asking stupid questions about it.