Micro 991: Names on the List [game over!]

[DkKoba]

gimli do you think "being solvy"=town?

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I'm guessing that I would probably know after seeing the list, depending on who was on it.

Or not and I would have to use any information, however small, from the list

I want you to give me an example of a list that makes you parse out amélie from NM as it relates to which one could be scum, which one could be town, which is what you said in #926.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I'm sure it'd be beneficial to scum to push for the doomcounter today, especially if NM is town but even if he isn't and scum has another target to push through, since a miselim in this situation loses us the game. The only people voicing concerns over the doomcounter were NM and infinity as far as I can tell. koba was pushing for it with a terrible reason (they don't want to play montainous) and clidd was suggesting it for a reason that makes no sense (can parse out NM and amélie).

[Gimli son of Glóin]

<koba, clidd, infinity, amélie, NM>

find two townies and win the game.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I'm back later.

[DkKoba]

I'm sure it'd be beneficial to scum to push for the doomcounter today, especially if NM is town but even if he isn't and scum has another target to push through, since a miselim in this situation loses us the game. The only people voicing concerns over the doomcounter were NM and infinity as far as I can tell. koba was pushing for it with a terrible reason (they don't want to play montainous) and clidd was suggesting it for a reason that makes no sense (can parse out NM and amélie).

my plan was to use it since d1. the list info is better than staying in mountainous.

[DkKoba]

we lim in the pile that has 2 scum.

(if scum actually made a pile with 3 scum id laugh cause thats best EV for town)

[Gimli son of Glóin]

2 scum in a pile of 5, in exchange for +1 for scum to reach parity and putting us in elim-or-lose this very gameday. brilliant plan. 2/5 isn't much higher odds of hitting scum than 3/8 which is what we have right now, and since we won't use the doomcounter that's actually much higher odds than 2/5 since we have 3/8 now and then 3/7 on d3 if we miselim. you're essentially throwing the game by using the doomcounter.

I'm thinking of this clidd-infinity relationship. the way they're approaching each other, I agree with ahsoka that there's a scenario where infinity is simply being pocketed, and also I'm starting to consider that these interactions are likely not svt if infinity is mafia. Also the way my POE evolved in d2, there's scum in infinity/clidd unless the team is exactly koba/NM/amélie, which is one of my initial combinations I worked with starting d2 but I'm beginning to think that is quite unlikely.

[DkKoba]

ur doign that thing again where u can only point out "teamreads" instead of actually figuring out why ppl are independently scummy lmfao

[Gimli son of Glóin]

Koba, if you want me to talk to you and answer your questions, I would like you to 100% acknowledge that using the doomcounter this gameday is a mechanical throw. I will not 1v1 you anymore which I'm sure is the only thing you want when asking me things that won't help you discern my slot, but I can explain why working with a POE on d2 is how town should play and how someone as competent as clidd was supposed to be doing just that instead of just showing up and posting all the lazy things he posted (sorry clidd).

[DkKoba]

id rather have a cop check than an extra elimination

[Gimli son of Glóin]

you don't have a cop check with the doomcounter.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

since you remain dishonest with your posts to me, I'll keep ignoring everything you ask me.

[DkKoba]

since you remain dishonest with your posts to me, I'll keep ignoring everything you ask me.

[DkKoba]

My point is that definitive information, like eliminating certain people from being aligned, etc. is much more valuable.

if we can't eliminate scum d3 then we might as well lose regardless.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

2 out of 5 isn't a lot better than 3 out of 8 which is our current gamestate. if we use the doomcounter and we miselim there will be no d3!!!! don't you understand this??

[DkKoba]

i reread near the start. your method of scumhunting has shifted over the course of the game. earlier on you were all fine with identifying people as individually scummy. now you're really stuck on teamreads. any reason for that?

[Gimli son of Glóin]

let me break the math down for you

say we use the doomcounter and elim in the 2/5 list. if we do so randomly, the odds of hitting scum are 40%. 60% of the time we simply lose the game.

say we don't use the doomcounter and eliminate randomly in a 3/8. the odds of hitting scum are 37,5%, as opposed to the 40% with the list, and if we don't elim scum it we'll have a 3/7 chance next day, which is a 42,8% chance. the odds of randomly hitting scum here at least once in two shots is 68% (I think). your opinion here is so bad.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

Not interested in answering that either. deal with the fact that you're grotesquely wrong about the doomcounter first.

[Not_Mafia]

Radja/Gimli/clidd

[Ahsoka]

<koba, clidd, infinity, amélie, NM>

find two townies and win the game.

YES YES YES

Two of Koba/Clidd/Infinity
One of Amelie/NM

[Ahsoka]

ashoka is playing an agenda and purposefully glossing over facts. I jusr woke up(my sleep schedule is fucked) but I'll explain later.

I always am playing to an agenda.

But I'm not purposefully glossing over facts.

I'm challenging them because I'm trying to see their direct line of thinking, and if you possibly think I'm scum here after the games we've had, then lol.

you know my MO. i dont like being on a consensus wagon that is town on d1 as scum.

I've only played with ScumYou, kkoba.

[Ahsoka]

ur doign that thing again where u can only point out "teamreads" instead of actually figuring out why ppl are independently scummy lmfao

it's okay, I've been doing the independent side of things, Gimli can take the team.

[Ahsoka]

let me break the math down for you

say we use the doomcounter and elim in the 2/5 list. if we do so randomly, the odds of hitting scum are 40%. 60% of the time we simply lose the game.

say we don't use the doomcounter and eliminate randomly in a 3/8. the odds of hitting scum are 37,5%, as opposed to the 40% with the list, and if we don't elim scum it we'll have a 3/7 chance next day, which is a 42,8% chance. the odds of randomly hitting scum here at least once in two shots is 68% (I think). your opinion here is so bad.

Honestly, I'm so happy with the Raya/Gimli townblock, I don't even care if it went through.

We have a 66% chance to hit scum in the trio.

I'm happy to play this mountainous.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

I share the same excitement about our townblock and our chances to win this mountainous.