Micro 991: Names on the List [game over!]

[Ahsoka]

I think I wanna trust ahsoka's scumreads, I admit it's incredibly hard to read the people in the POE and I have no experience with y'all. NM and amélie remain completely unreadable, and the other three have given me a multitude of reasons to suspect them and, in other situations, to TR them. to answer koba's question, that's why I'm trying to work out the possible pairings more than finding scum. to me koba is scum, but people that know them think this is AI, for instance, and IDK what to do with my feelings on the slot.

pedit: you were literally not the 2nd vote on lostego zzzzzzz

This is why I town read you, to be fair.

NM/Amelie are in a thing because Not Mafia push in this gamestate pretty much dictactes either he's scum sitting on TownAmelie, or He's correct on ScumAmelie, and Amelie doesn't know what to say.

It's literally a coin flip.

The Dkkoba/Infinity/Clidd situation is trickier because they've weaved themselves in the game to make whichever of the one in them that is town not look as townie. I think Dkkoba's probably town in a tunnel.

I expected Dkkoba to tunnel me anyways before this game because he thought he could read me after seeing 2 games of a new meta I was playing in.

They also got to see me from a partner POV, and that's always going to make people paranoid of me, but I'm actually even crazier town.

[Gimli son of Glóin]

you're always wrong, it's ok

[Ahsoka]

oh
i thought i was the 2nd vote.

LMAO nvm i take it back. i still maintain my vote was meant to be pressure and not to lim :/

And I'm not saying it isn't. I don't think it's a bad vote. You did help get pressure. Lostego was not posting well.

Dkkoba, I literally saw you post in the game thread where I organized quickhammer. I'm not a one trick pony.

I'm like setting a trap on you, if that makes sense. If you are scum, you're gonna set off the trap. It smells it on you. Yes, the trap is alive. If you are town, it might snip you a few times, but it's not gonna kill you...yet...MOO HA HA HA

[Ahsoka]

People need to stop taking scum reads or possible scum reasonings on them so personally. that's literally the game.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: clidd
fuck it
gut read from d1

[Ahsoka]

@KKoba - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12194267

Does this help understand a little more? I was April in that game.

[DkKoba]

oh
i thought i was the 2nd vote.

LMAO nvm i take it back. i still maintain my vote was meant to be pressure and not to lim :/

And I'm not saying it isn't. I don't think it's a bad vote. You did help get pressure. Lostego was not posting well.

Dkkoba, I literally saw you post in the game thread where I organized quickhammer. I'm not a one trick pony.

I'm like setting a trap on you, if that makes sense. If you are scum, you're gonna set off the trap. It smells it on you. Yes, the trap is alive. If you are town, it might snip you a few times, but it's not gonna kill you...yet...MOO HA HA HA

ah fuck it ill assume ur town cause ur appealing to me for having a similar town strategy(supposedly) here and with more evidence as the game goes on itll be easier to case u if u are scum, cause scum cant nightkill the threats.

[Ahsoka]

I give reasons for everyone to be scum because I feel that's how the game should go. This is very similar to my argument with people on Day 1, and how I actively started something. I actively create engagements so people are forced to take stances, which gives much more readable actions in game, and from there, I'll look at all the scummiest looking things, and solve from there.

[Ahsoka]

You're gonna hate this, but that vote looks like such a bus.

Like maybe it's not, and you're gonna say that Clidd and I are just scum together, and I'm setting you up, but townies can make things tht can appear scummy looking at it from certain angles. That's so funny.

[DkKoba]

have you considered doing trustfalls?

finding reasons why someone should be townread. i did so in Among Us mafia recently, while i didn't get the right result, it got rid of a lot of my PoE. My solution to "too many scumreads"

Basically you go through each player and list why they should be townread. At the end you evauluate which ones have good reasons, which dont.
The inverse is distrustfals. which seems to be how .. you're playing here. Looking for reasons to scumread someone.

Combined together its a great tool, unfortunately i personally dont have the time or patience for it.

[Ahsoka]

I do that too, that's how I got Gimli and Raya town reads.

[Ahsoka]

I also did it with you when I gave the possible reasoning for your tunnel a second ago and arguing/discredit for having Flavor Fever because that is a legit explanation for town you to be posting that way, and I agreed your vote could just look bad happenstantially.

[DkKoba]

how much time do we have left i need to sleep on this

[Ahsoka]

we have a week. I didn't expect this day to end like now now. Give some time for the peeps.

[clidd]

I was going to reread and reassess some things, but the more I type in the more people suspect me

Particularly I think that Gimli, Infinity and Raya are towns. But I must be wrong between Gimli and Raya.

So my solve would be:

{DkKoba, Ahsoka} -> 1 scum among them.
{Not_Mafia, Amélie} -> 1 scum among them
{Gimli, Raya} -> 1 scum among them

I originally thought that Gimli and Raya would be a good base for TR, but I can't think straight with so much information being dissolved from various sides. It is likely that town and scum are transmitting ripples that are hindering my consolidation.

[clidd]

A wild guess would be Ahsoka + Dk as svs if Gimli and Raya are town.

A composition that I prefer to not consider at the moment, although it is in the back of my mind.

[clidd]

I still think a elimination between Amélie and NM would be better today, which is why I wanted help to sort them.

[Ahsoka]

{DkKoba, Ahsoka} -> 1 scum among them.

Nah, this isn't a certainty.

[Ahsoka]

Amelie vs Not Mafia is effectively worse because it's a 50-50 that leaves us in danger of having to pick within you 3 later, and you 3 are all more game controlling scum than either NM and Amelie would be.

Amelie and Not Mafia will become more obvious where the scum is in with them as the game goes on. That's a LHF push.

[Ahsoka]

It's objectively better to go within the 3 of you today because there's a higher chance of hitting scum and far more information revealed based on your guys' play.

[clidd]

Do you think my flip would help town to win?

[clidd]

Amélie vs NM isn't a 50/50 if everyone is helping to sort them.

[clidd]

{DkKoba, Ahsoka} -> 1 scum among them.

Nah, this isn't a certainty.

I think the game would be more fluid if you two were town. There's scum between you two.

[clidd]

You're gonna hate this, but that vote looks like such a bus.

Like maybe it's not, and you're gonna say that Clidd and I are just scum together, and I'm setting you up, but townies can make things tht can appear scummy looking at it from certain angles. That's so funny.

Actually, VOTE: Ahsoka

I think we are dealing with scum!Flavor this game.

[clidd]

And yeah, if you guys wanna eliminate me or something, that's fine.

But after rereading the last few pages, I feel that Ahsoka broke the character and is playing like scum!Flavor imo.