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[skitter30]

Can we just like wagon spiffeh or something

[Deacon Blues]

the implication was the game ends day 4

That qualifies as feeling pretty defeated.

[petapan]

the implication was the game ends day 4

That qualifies as feeling pretty defeated.

i just find little reason for optimism and if there's one thing that's weird for you it's that you're out of sync with how degraded things are. if you're town you need to call your shot today because it should be treated as effectively do or die

[skitter30]

Cabd you're super solid on town!deacon?

[Spiffeh]

Can we just like wagon spiffeh or something

no have better opinions

[Spiffeh]

I drank too much caffeine I should not be awake rn but now I'm UPSET

[Firebringer]

Go to your room FB.

Alright tell me when I can come out

[petapan]

I drank too much caffeine I should not be awake rn but now I'm UPSET

is the most you're going to put out just this sort of petty anger?

[Spiffeh]

yes because I have done nothing else this entire Day

[Deacon Blues]

Go to your room FB.

Alright tell me when I can come out

<3

Now's good.

[petapan]

yes because I have done nothing else this entire Day

largely no in my view, at some point i have to wonder if the anger is a defense mechanism to avoid contribution. i was hesitant because i know putting a player on tilt is going to impede any rational decisionmaking but i tried to give you space and then talk to you to get inside your head and you gave me basically nothing in return. i am struggling to understand your mindset as a town one and want to see more than complaining when people mention suspecting you

i'm feeling pretty hopeless but i've still tried to take swings at explaining why i think things because that's all i can do, i've started to doubt the big scumread i entered he day with and don't know where to go but i'm still trying to talk with people

[Spiffeh]

I think you think I am more upset than I am

I have been contributing in a way that I feel has been fruitful in terms of getting reads and sharing them

I still don't get how to explain my mindset to you, I don't really feel like typing out a dissertation about how I play the game if that's what you want. And the way you keep harping on this feels like you want continued justification for your vote on me

[Spiffeh]

I also am interested in how you feel I have given you 'nothing', but the emptiest slot in the game, A50, has ACTUALLY done nothing in this thread ever since he got here (and not much in the other one) but he seems to be a pretty confident town read of yours to the point where you don't really want to reevaluate him today?

[petapan]

i'm trying to figure out whether you're scum with nothing to say or town who doesn't feel like putting in work because mad but in my view a significant chunk of you posts have just been complaining

[petapan]

I also am interested in how you feel I have given you 'nothing', but the emptiest slot in the game, A50, has ACTUALLY done nothing in this thread ever since he got here (and not much in the other one) but he seems to be a pretty confident town read of yours to the point where you don't really want to reevaluate him today?

i wouldn't say he's actually done nothing and to make that argument seems shortsighted or disingenuous, give me a moment

[Spiffeh]

I really don't know if it's worth continuing to engage with you on this

Are you just not reading my posts? I think I've been extremely transparent with my reads today more than any other Day and have done a pretty good job staying active and engaged in a thread I've entered 250 pages late. If you think I've still said 'nothing', maybe ask me more specific questions about what you want to know beyond "what's your process"?

[petapan]

why would it not be worth continuing to converse? are you that convinced i'm scum?

[Spiffeh]

Not to the point where I don't think it's worth talking to you, I just think all of the things you're saying about me (contributing nothing, only complaining) are so blatantly wrong if you take the time to read my posts and idk why you're struggling to see that

Unless you are scum and trying to push a narrative, which is the best I can come up with right now

[Spiffeh]

Town: {Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, LLD}
Townlean: {Firebringer, skitter30}
Null: {Pooky, midwaybear}
Scumlean: {petapan}
Scum: {Almost50}

This is where I'm at off the top of my head

Might ISO Pooky and midwaybear if I get the chance this week because I haven't read many of their posts since getting here

AMA

[petapan]

hm, i hadn't noticed a50 had voted pisskop, that's at least a little concerning. it's no, not as strong as i thought. but his reasoning on the pooky track and defending him made sense. there was some degree of questioning people but not as much as i thought. i still feel like he played the role in a townish manner with how he reacted to shelly's claim and set up his role but that's not incredibly strong. like it could be faked but my gut says he's an easy target right now and scum doesn't play the role the way he did. i can't claim to be strongly confident in that, i think people raised some doubts about the stuff he said and it does resonate, looking at the iso here is concerning, but i have doubts about everything right now. what i do look for in the game is that he feels like a slot scum would want to push because the arguments are easy and it largely feels like scum are more likely to be in less suspected people where the arguments are going to be harder and they won't be as easy to spot

someone should ask him why he tracked dunnstral night 1

mostly i'm just puzzled why you think me strongly defending someone makes me scum

[petapan]

can't see those reads being remotely close to right even though i like the hydras as they speak kindly and reassuringly to me

[petapan]

i also have to wonder if you honestly think the setup would contain two amnesiac investigative pairs with half of each being scum making both effectively worthless and the majority of other PRs being timestream gated such that there is a strong possibility town has absolutely 0 useful night actions on night 1 aside from a bodyguard, maybe

because if you stop to think about it for a single second that's extremely implausible

[Spiffeh]

and it largely feels like scum are more likely to be in less suspected people where the arguments are going to be harder and they won't be as easy to spot

Who are the players you feel could fit this mold then?

[petapan]

and it largely feels like scum are more likely to be in less suspected people where the arguments are going to be harder and they won't be as easy to spot

Who are the players you feel could fit this mold then?

basically anyone you have listed in your townreads, i don't outright suspect anyone there aside from LLD but can find reasons to doubt all of them (like, skitter's post about eliminating you did feel a little sketchy but then you came in and looked even worse) and i'd be shocked if that group contains 0 scum at this point

[Spiffeh]

in hindsight i probably shouldn't be giving spiffeh a pass for sheer total incuriosity; having a50 as his sole scumread is also pretty shite

takes me literally a few minutes to look at someone and spiffeh couldnt be fucked lmao

Hmmm you're right that I probably shouldn't be so generous with town reads given the amount of scum remaining

It's just how i feel rn idk

If I had to guess the scum team I'd say {A50, petapan, Hench Princesses, Annie Edison, and two of {Pooky, midwaybear, Bell, superbowl}}