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[Spiffeh]

Bell in particular literally just played a game on the same scum team as me and should know that my play here has been so obviously different

[Firebringer]

spiffey i am so mad that the list mods moved me to black flag for our team mafia games.
calm me down.

[midwaybear]

Want to vote Pooky?

[Firebringer]

i am voting pooky

[Spiffeh]

Firebringer what are your thoughts on mwb?

[midwaybear]

I was talking to Spiffeh

[Firebringer]

i thought his asking for purple room was townie. i don't have much thoughts on besides that.
everyone thinks he is scum so kind of think that must mean he is town.

[Spiffeh]

I want A50 or peta to die today

I wouldn't fight too hard against you or Pooky, but you're not my first choices

Are you scum reading Pooky? If so, why?

[petapan]

Thank you everyone for universally deciding I should be flipped the week I am V/LA because of work

midwaybear is probably scum for hopping on so easily and Bell looks atrocious cheering this on from the other thread

there are literally 3 votes on you and it is hardly unanimous in agreement that you will be voted off, i don't actually have much sway

all the anger looks like you're trying to scare people off more than anything

[Firebringer]

yes, i am scumreading pooky.
i don't think he cares much about sorting game. I think he is more interested in buddying and making a show of the game. I think he is buddying LLD. I think he buddies anyone he interacts with. The only time you see him care about game is when he is under pressure otherwise its lay around and chill posting.

i will trust skitter regrdless of alignment on a50 and i think peta is town.

[Firebringer]

@everyone we get it spiffeh isn't solving hard enough. Can u show the scum motivation in his plays tho

[midwaybear]

On Day 2, Pooky seemed to trolling a bit with regard to people attacking him like he didn't really care. His reads also seemed somewhat shady, but other than that I don't have much.
On an unrelated note, I don't know what info we can get from the pisskop wagon. We might interpret it as a case of scum taking control(likely), but it also could just be an apathetic town wagon. That's a bit concerning.

[Spiffeh]

Bell I have been way more engaged and open with my reads and SO MUCH LESS of a lurk sack in this game and I struggle to understand how you're not seeing the differences

Which makes me think you're ignoring them deliberately to egg my wagon on

[Spiffeh]

Bell have you seen a town game of mine?

Maybe not because this is my first one since coming back from hiatus

I highly recommend you ISO me in one of my town games (Titus vs. Alisae for instance) before using any BoP arguments

[midwaybear]

If your point is that your play could also be seen as disengaged in TvA, didn't you also admit to intentionally being low presence because you were a mason?

[petapan]

@everyone we get it spiffeh isn't solving hard enough. Can u show the scum motivation in his plays tho

i outlined my issues in the last couple of pages but my main feeling is the way he's going after a50 doesn't feel intellectually honest because he based part of it on his response to shelly's claim when i feel spiffeh's trajectory there largely shifted with popular momentum. i think pursuing a lurker scumread at this stage is just kind of tone-deaf and looks like a vote of convenience more than anything. he's mainly arguing a50 "isn't doing anything" but i know and you know that isn't actually a scumtell. like it feels like the kind of target i would want to push as scum because it's an easy argument to make and most people don't like lurkers. like you just got out of a game where scum hardshoved you for "not doing anything" and he feels like he's arguing in a similar way. also i dislike the extent to which he's resorting to AtE already.

if thats not enough for you to believe me its fine

[Spiffeh]

mwb, I am saying that I think it's weird of Bell to try to use the BoP arguments against me without having been exposed to my town game before.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE: spiffeh
okay peta u win my vote.

[Spiffeh]

Firebringer can you not

[Firebringer]

I am not trying to start a fight with you spiffeh, but my townread of you has weakened. If you gotta dunk case on peta; waiting for it.

[Spiffeh]

I have presented my reasons for my peta scum read, you can take them or leave them I guess

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE: Turnstile - skitter

What is your read on skitter and what's the basis for it?

Gun to my head she is town

I thought her approach towards me early in the Day was jumping on the bandwagon but her I buy her explanation about why her town read on me turned so quickly and I feel like she has done more to understand where I'm coming from in regards to A50 than anyone even though she is hard-townreading him

Compare this with peta who's just me bad and scummy and shut down attempts I've make to pressure A50 before he's even posted for the Day, or get others to reevaluate my most confident scum read at this critical point in the game and skitter looks a whole lot better

what's your plan for forming reads and evaluating people, how do you approach the game, what are you doing right now as part of that. i hate the term "solving" but like, how are you doing that, what are you looking for

because right now i see someone who was lobbying to come over since page 1 but not only appwears to have done no homework but is not really doing much in the way of critical inquiry and is instead just getting mad at me and i'm rather confused by it. i would assume you would put some value on dayplay and not just solely wanting to come here because of your role, because it can't be that valuable, so like

what's your process

I think you are overstating my desire to be over here. I requested it immediately Day 1 purely for role purposes and than rescinded that request because I thought trying to clear Forwards of scum was a stronger use of the turnstile than anything I could offer with my role

I also wasn't aware the Purple Room had a turnstile until I was hammered so I didn't really expect to be over here until Day 3 at the earliest. You are right that I have done no homework but I did have a few reads as a baseline and feel I have been doing my due diligence today to get reads on people and I've been transparent with them

So I don't agree with this train of thought

these aren't very compelling and this is the bulk of what ur read has been but u been pushing peta since u came over and most of what u said is "why is peta townread" like its just excuses to push him cause i don't see any actual engagement with peoples reads on peta.
then u make post hoc reasoning for him being scum here. when u scumread him prior. What were the reasons prior to these events cause u were scumreading him long before this shit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I feel like spiffeh and peta are cross bussing here FB my dude.

[Firebringer]

well im voting both now

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like this is really bad out of spiffeh

so either spiffeh is just really shitting the bed as a townie

or this is a sacrifice play

cause spiffeh just isn't this bad on a regular day