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Post Post #6100 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:46 am

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#7402: What are you talking about LLD?
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Post Post #6101 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 6097, Bell wrote:To put it simply, free flow interactions and he's pushed almost literally everybody. I don't see favoritism in his reads or his interactions.

While true that also means he's pushed a lot of flipbait. Like if I'm right about GX being town, then I kinda dislike his GX push at EoD2, which would have been reinforcing my bad read there (when I was listing him as scum). While I get what you're saying, I think his pushes are a big part of like SS getting turnstiled to death, so while I still kinda agree with him probably being town on the whole of things, I'm very cautious about listing him as high-grade town
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Post Post #6102 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:59 am

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I don't really get how anyone can think LLD actually believes anything she has said at any point in this game

I really wish I had literally ever seen her roll town though, I actually have no frame of reference for what sorts town her from scum her, but I'm kinda baffled by why Titus and unwnd's scumreads there were just flat out ignored and now people are like positioning her as high level town

one of many things making me think there are 4+ scum in that timeline
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Post Post #6103 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:00 am

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Uhh, this might be an ideology thing, but I try very hard not to think about how bad people's reads are and a lot more about whether their reads make sense to them or not.
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Post Post #6104 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:01 am

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kinda feel like town lost this game because the people who could actually flip scum in inverted were in the wrong timeline
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Post Post #6105 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 6103, Bell wrote:Uhh, this might be an ideology thing, but I try very hard not to think about how bad people's reads are and a lot more about whether their reads make sense to them or not.
I don't see why you think LLD's reads make sense to her though, Titus and unwnd didn't and I'd take Titus's read of LLD over my own, and I don't even townread LLD
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Post Post #6106 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:04 am

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Oh, I don't on LLD I think she's slightly scummy this game but I've basically ignored her posts entirely
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Post Post #6107 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:06 am

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Let me reword that in a bit.
I mean essentially that I haven't looked at her in the depth I feel I would need to, to read her if at all.
I've only ever played with town LLD.
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Post Post #6108 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 7428, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:1) LLD doesn't believe herself (false, regardless of alignment. Like, provably false whether I'm scum or town, so a completely pointless post).
2) Titus believed LLD was scum (Titus has an actual 0 percent read rate against me. Like not a joke, actual. I once won a 11v1 as scum vs. titus by dragging her to endgame ot protect me, then eliminatign her in the final vote. Titus cannot read me. Titus does not know HOW.)
3) Unwnd beieved LLD was scum. (On day 1, before replacing out, with little context to my play.)

1 -- mostly I don't think I've ever looked at one of your takes and been like, "yeah I can vibe with that"
2 -- yeah but Titus wasn't in thread with you so... idk maybe her read is better when she doesn't have to engage you directly? I'm not dismissing it because you don't like her read rate on you
3 -- early game reads are often better than late game reads and I don't think unwnd having little context on your play makes his initial take of your play less compelling, and those things aren't disconnected btw, unwnd's replace out was *in part* his sense that he was being straight up ignored when trying to discuss reads in your timeline including his scumread of your slot. also calling that an early rep out seems misleading, it was pretty late into day 1 tbh

this deflection you do feels more like scumplaining than anything else, I think you're probably a top 4 or top 5 pick for a redflip in either timeline.

Who do you think is the scum that I am obviously overlooking in my own timeline? How many scum do you think are in my timeline?
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Post Post #6109 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:21 am

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Hp why is the tracker claim more likely scum than the watcher claim?
Or said differently why A50 over skitter?
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Post Post #6110 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:27 am

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The petapan/Spiffeh both being scum is weird.
LLD, why not just unvote them both and then see where the scum team decides to go.
And then vote that guy
or something.
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Post Post #6111 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:28 am

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Because skitter didn't mod a game with a scum receiver and then say that there was "no reason in this setup" that there'd be scum in an invest/receiver pair. And he townread peta for extremely superficial reasons. I don't want him dead because of his mech claim, I want him dead because I think he's the most likely hit for scum from this thread and I can see him being scum with pooky and I can see him being scum with spiffeh. His most recent reads list is scummy, he only has 1 insane!town!a50 point for the brian/annie readslist sheep, and I have too many other townreads that started off in this thread. I want A50 dead more than skitter because A50 started in this thread and I have reads of everyone that started in this thread.

Based on mech claim interaction, if you're town then skitter is slightly more likely scum, but given how fucking convoluted Tenet was as a movie and how powerful the badguys were I don't really see why they wouldn't have insane roles so I'm not really scumreading people for having scummy roles at the moment.

@LLD, I just played with scum Bell in BTXIV, and the bell of this game is way different than the scum bell of that game. I think you insisting bell is scum is almost as unconvincing to me as you insisting peta is the most likely redflip from your thread.
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Post Post #6112 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:28 am

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holy crap LLD thinks I'm scum?
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Post Post #6113 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 6111, Hench Princesses wrote:And he townread peta for extremely superficial reasons.

and tbh his reasoning on the pooky track is like, almost a scumclaim level bad

sorry I just really don't like his recent posting
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Post Post #6114 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:30 am

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I'm town and haven't embellished my claim of full doc. so you should take that under advisement when you read Skitter stuff.

It's trash tier role spec, but a tracker with a bunch of protectives makes more sense than a watcher and a bunch of protectives.

Or at least, they're probably not both town, but that goes without saying really.
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Post Post #6115 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:33 am

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Also skitter's unvote of Spiffeh made me cringe 9 different ways.
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Post Post #6116 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:37 am

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@bork why don’t skitter and dandelion make sense as buddies?

Can someone point him my way. I do agree it seems wise to figure out who in the townbloc isn’t town.
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Post Post #6117 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:40 am

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Who other than Gyphx wants to go into the violet room?
We can get that out of the way at least while we figure out everything else.

I'm against Gyphx because his reason for wanting to go into a PT so he can post better makes no sense.

Dunnstrall already has a neighborhood.
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Post Post #6118 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:42 am

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LLD asked to talk to dunn.
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Post Post #6119 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:44 am

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Could we not put two players who are inches away from losing this game for town me into a room together.
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Post Post #6120 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:45 am

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@bork I’m sure you saw where my mind lies on all of this.

What do you think of bell? You might have said this and I missed it.

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Post Post #6121 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:45 am

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LLD scum reading me sucks.
I have 800 posts now.
I'm not that fucking hard to read.
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Post Post #6122 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:45 am

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I'm town and I think Peta is town.
and if both groups miss we lose right?
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Post Post #6123 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:47 am

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We have one day after this I’m pretty sure?

I’m really struggling with their scumread on you.
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Post Post #6124 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:47 am

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If they seriously elim peta this games a joke lol
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