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[Lady Lambdadelta]

dang really?

skitter is kind of the best, lol

like i think they're scum but if that is mad i need to learn their zen or something

[Deacon Blues]

"look at me i'm doing the town thing"

vintage 2014 bork tbh

i've moved past that and accept that i'll occasionally get miselimed because of it

[midwaybear]

We're getting distracted from Pooky scum.

[skitter30]

I mean the only reason I brought it up is I wanted to note that I was making a good faith effort to not do the things that you (and others) have taken umbrage to in the past...and your angle seemed to be that since I can't prove I'm doing it that I'm not, and when I ask you what exactly your issue is with my play today you just say "they're not solving" or "you show me where they're solving" and you just keep falling back on that argument or flipping the burden of proof on me

re: naked vote: I am not required to convince you you're scum.

re: -ev to town: whatever. If I'm bad, post game I'll mea culpa to your heart's content if that will help. I do the best w/ what I've got. (I'm not taking it as a personal attack)

the issue isn't that you' can't prove it. like i absolutely believe that you are in fact making that good faith effort. my point is that the fruit/output of the good faith effort is not visible, so the fact that it's happening doesn't really change anything from waht i can see because to my eye there was no change, and i had no reason to even think that it was happening

like my issue is that *by not sharing that that's what you're doing* it's impossible for me to see that the good faith effort even exists, which is ultimately kinda compouding the problem: the good faith effort is happening but isn't publicized, so it's exactly as behind closed doors as everything else that you're doing. so the fact that you're doing it didn't really affect how i view anythings because up until like 10 mintues ago i had no reason to know that it existed, so to my pov and what i can see here, it doesn't actually look like you're doing anything at all.

i think you misunderstood my angle because that's not where i was going with it, i hope i explained it better.

like i had no reason to think that solving had lessened in the hood, so i was assuming that's where the solving was happening. like not solving here, yes in hood, because that's what was happening days1 and 2 and i didn't really see anything to make me think that's changed

and now you're telling me that's changed, and that you're not in fact solving in the hood. in which case ok? so you're not solving in the hood, but i still don't rally see you solving here? which is fundementally my issue

and yeah that wasn't menat to be a personal attack, i apologize for that bit. i meant: within the game capacity your two slots are actively taking action (or inactions) that i think are making it harder to solve the game, whatevr your alignment

[skitter30]

people w/ skitter experience: is this ATE legit? does she do this as scum to wriggle out of stuff?

-b

no

[skitter30]

or technially once yes but it was a very niche case. otherwise no.

[petapan]

okay so all this shit where you do the interaction bit with me and try to look genuine it's all for show?

like I've been saying?

cause if you think i'm scum after how i've approached this game state peta

you know

it's a scum claim

the way you've been pushing setup spec i think is faulty for certain eliminations, have tried to bulldoze through my claim and have tried to preemptively tie me to my scumread? am i supposed to know that's town?

peta

this is as flagrantly town as i get

i'm currently turning on my "lld is town" pheremones

i'm definitely town telling and anyone who thinks i'm scum must be scum

i definitely can't turn this on as scum.

definitely.

is this supposed to be sarcastic or not i can't tell

like i have certainly allowed for the possibility you are town a whole lot here because as i have been saying repeatedly we don't see eye to eye and it's not like i expect my reads to be amazing. i just don't know why it should be obvious to me.

[Firebringer]

why do i only see support for wagons on people who aren't here?
first it was spiffeh now it is pooky

[petapan]

and you can be scum while doing it and say "gotcha"

and still do it

amazing

then it's not really a trust tell innit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

okay so all this shit where you do the interaction bit with me and try to look genuine it's all for show?

like I've been saying?

cause if you think i'm scum after how i've approached this game state peta

you know

it's a scum claim

the way you've been pushing setup spec i think is faulty for certain eliminations, have tried to bulldoze through my claim and have tried to preemptively tie me to my scumread? am i supposed to know that's town?

peta

this is as flagrantly town as i get

i'm currently turning on my "lld is town" pheremones

i'm definitely town telling and anyone who thinks i'm scum must be scum

i definitely can't turn this on as scum.

definitely.

is this supposed to be sarcastic or not i can't tell

like i have certainly allowed for the possibility you are town a whole lot here because as i have been saying repeatedly we don't see eye to eye and it's not like i expect my reads to be amazing. i just don't know why it should be obvious to me.

bro i have a power role too

how is this not obvious

[Lady Lambdadelta]

and you can be scum while doing it and say "gotcha"

and still do it

amazing

then it's not really a trust tell innit

ye that's the joke bruv

[petapan]

why do i only see support for wagons on people who aren't here?
first it was spiffeh now it is pooky

because in the game of mafia if you stop talking you lose

[Deacon Blues]

I don't have any response to 7528 that i think would improve this conversation other than i think skitter has just decided I'm not solving and that's that, which ok noted i guess, and i think one of my children just hurt himself very badly upstairs so, uh, back later

-b

[Firebringer]

why do i only see support for wagons on people who aren't here?
first it was spiffeh now it is pooky

because in the game of mafia if you stop talking you lose

i lose all the time tho.

[skitter30]

that was the meanest she will ever be.

i try to keep that the max mean-level and even that i feel bad and think i went too far :/

i try very hard not to ate as both alignments. it's more likely to come from town than scum tho
once as scum i did it on purpose (just the once, niche case, and i don't want to do that on the regular) but other than that i'm very like ~emotionally controlled~ as scum and keep a p good facade . as town i just get annoyed and angry and take things way too personally

i don't think i'd be frustrated as scum here but obviously self meta take with a gain of salt etc

[petapan]

bro i have a power role too

how is this not obvious

probably because i'm dumb as fuck

[petapan]

VOTE: LLD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

why you think i'm out here being like "this is too much power this is too much power"

[Deacon Blues]

oh nvm my youngest just whacked my middle somethin fierce geez

-b

[petapan]

wait i was already not vote parked there

man my mind is fucked up

[Deacon Blues]

CANNOT.

Do you get my drift?

yes

-b

i felt you lld

-b

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CANNOT.

Do you get my drift?

yes

-b

i felt you lld

-b

ye i figured you did, lol

[skitter30]

I don't have any response to 7528 that i think would improve this conversation other than i think skitter has just decided I'm not solving and that's that, which ok noted i guess, and i think one of my children just hurt himself very badly upstairs so, uh, back later

-b

i mean basically yes, and that's why i'm frustrated because you're like probably (?) town but not solving really

and i hope he's ok!

[Deacon Blues]

he's prolly gonna have a shiner

-b

[skitter30]

i think we should massclaim

i don't think the votes for lld or pooky are there so functionally this is just going to go around in circles for a while and go unresolved so we should just divert attention to spiffeh and pooky