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[Deacon Blues]

I keep forgetting about this part of the game mechanic. If the game lasts long enough then Gamma can say who he protected on N2.

[Deacon Blues]

@Bell

@deacon, okay.

does this mean you'll talk with me about how you came by your skitter read or no?

[petapan]

Skitter your purple room stuff and talking about Dandelion Wine's role stuff both look really scummy

dunn, i have run out of fucks to give, so i don't really care.
either there's scum in dandelion/deacon, or the pair is functionally acting like the 7th and 8th members of the scumteam given how the game has unfolded to this point. this is unpopular take, but true.
if there's scum it's dandelion because the role is literally a scum role

it's quite possibly both of them

we're scum if we vote you and scum if we don't?

that's not what i'm arguing and my stance evolved over hours of manic hyperposting in the thread yesterday and between last night and this morning. at the time, when i was sitting at E-2, i didn't believe you'd reasonably back down on stated townreads to eliminate me unless you're scum and doing so would be tactically beneficial. yesterday i was willing to defer because i still felt like there was a decentish chance you/dandelion could be town, i'm by no means perfect and sometimes it's better to follow someone's strong read, it certainly feels like there's scum in that group, put my trust in others for the day and flip if it's wrong. but then it started to feel like i wasn't really being talked

to

anymore, i got this feeling of unease from how i was being received, and i got more paranoid this morning imagining a worst world scenario and decided my trust had run out

[Deacon Blues]

Yesterday was a bad day all around for me. I've had you settled in my mind as town for a long while. Your flip on us gave bork a case of ffery-hives. That's not where my head is currently at, but I couldn't figure out why you're scumreading us and dandelion both now.

[Deacon Blues]

Given your reads changes on us, can you lay out where your head is at now wrt to scumreads?

[Deacon Blues]

I could give you the whole history from beginning to end if you’d like.

yes, I'd like!

[skitter30]

I agree that such an agreement is basically meaningless and probably won't be adhered to, but people do it all the damn time. It annoys me, but this is hardly a new idea or a scummy one.

LLD has said she thinks gamma might have died protecting her but also actively stated she doesn't really expect anyone to agree or care about this, and i think deacon was the one who suggested he might have saved deacon or us?

I know. I explicitly said that i wasnt scumreading her for it, but that i am calling it out as being manipulative

For your second point, cabd explicitly echoed that thought, that gamma protected lld and that's how he died. I found that very unlikely

Also i dont generally dislike hoods, but in this game i think they're ultimately being utlized in an anti-town fashion, and that more will exacerbate that

[petapan]

Yesterday was a bad day all around for me. I've had you settled in my mind as town for a long while. Your flip on us gave bork a case of ffery-hives. That's not where my head is currently at, but I couldn't figure out why you're scumreading us and dandelion both now.

i didn't full-on switch to scumreading you (i'd be voting you if i were), i

entertained the possibility

because it feels like something is deeply wrong and at some point i start to wonder whether someone is blinkered or actively looking to mislead me, and i'm beginning to feel issues with the way some things have been asserted. i look at other people and i start to worry more. i grew uncomfortable with the idea of a skitter vote. i might be able to rant on it later

[Deacon Blues]

Yesterday was a bad day all around for me. I've had you settled in my mind as town for a long while. Your flip on us gave bork a case of ffery-hives. That's not where my head is currently at, but I couldn't figure out why you're scumreading us and dandelion both now.

i didn't full-on switch to scumreading you (i'd be voting you if i were), i

entertained the possibility

because it feels like something is deeply wrong and at some point i start to wonder whether someone is blinkered or actively looking to mislead me, and i'm beginning to feel issues with the way some things have been asserted. i look at other people and i start to worry more. i grew uncomfortable with the idea of a skitter vote. i might be able to rant on it later

I agree something feels deeply wrong. Day 2 was all about compromises, in some ways, at least for us, and that's not how I want this day to play out.

[petapan]

Given your reads changes on us, can you lay out where your head is at now wrt to scumreads?

i can't really give definitive answers but i can try to explain feels and thoughts

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yesterday was a bad day all around for me. I've had you settled in my mind as town for a long while. Your flip on us gave bork a case of ffery-hives. That's not where my head is currently at, but I couldn't figure out why you're scumreading us and dandelion both now.

i didn't full-on switch to scumreading you (i'd be voting you if i were), i

entertained the possibility

because it feels like something is deeply wrong and at some point i start to wonder whether someone is blinkered or actively looking to mislead me, and i'm beginning to feel issues with the way some things have been asserted. i look at other people and i start to worry more. i grew uncomfortable with the idea of a skitter vote. i might be able to rant on it later

I agree something feels deeply wrong. Day 2 was all about compromises, in some ways, at least for us, and that's not how I want this day to play out.

You wanna know what feels wrong to me, Ffery?

people comparing a Peta and Skitter and A50 wagons that have had resistance and hard to get traction on

to the compromise vote of fucking Pisskop the not posting at all

and S_S the super scummy bonus kill.

Like how is this a reasonable comparisson to yesterday?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yesterday was a bad day all around for me. I've had you settled in my mind as town for a long while. Your flip on us gave bork a case of ffery-hives. That's not where my head is currently at, but I couldn't figure out why you're scumreading us and dandelion both now.

i didn't full-on switch to scumreading you (i'd be voting you if i were), i

entertained the possibility

because it feels like something is deeply wrong and at some point i start to wonder whether someone is blinkered or actively looking to mislead me, and i'm beginning to feel issues with the way some things have been asserted. i look at other people and i start to worry more. i grew uncomfortable with the idea of a skitter vote. i might be able to rant on it later

I agree something feels deeply wrong. Day 2 was all about compromises, in some ways, at least for us, and that's not how I want this day to play out.

Cause I'll tell you what I think Peta is doing.

Peta is seeding doubts about people who are seen as town while refusing to allow wagons to go through on anyone I suggest because they're SCUM, Ffery.

and he can't afford to lose control here because I will chain them down one by one by one.

and if he kills me and I flip town, boom it ends there too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Peta actively agreed to let me bet my life and then now all of a sudden it's "this is a compromise day"

what part of me having to BET MY LFIE AGAINST SCUM

MAKES YOU THINK

THIS IS A COMPROMISE DAY?

[skitter30]

you realize that i strongly protested the pk compromise and that you're the one who suggested the super scummy ss bonus kill that i objected to, right?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you realize that i strongly protested the pk compromise and that you're the one who suggested the super scummy ss bonus kill that i objected to, right?

right, you protested the things that were gonna happen anyway very vocally in the thread as it was ending, if I recall correctly.

You think that makes you town?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh speaking of hypocracy skitter

haven't you been calling me town basically all day today and then recently you voted me while also calling me town for how I bet my life?

Why did you vote me if you're calling me town for that "manipulation"?

[petapan]

Peta actively agreed to let me bet my life

fyi i'm backing out of that, call me scum for it all you want idc

[Deacon Blues]

It's not a reasonable comparison. I'm not terribly happy about skitter laying Day 2 in its entirety at our feet, and a few other players accepting that. I mean, I guess town or scum you don't want to take responsibility for your votes in this mess.

[petapan]

your theories of what my scumgame involves are very funny

[skitter30]

no, it just makes me right
and i'm pointing out that you're understanding of the gamestate is flawed at best
(and i'm suggesting that you pushing for the ss flip was scummy as well)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

your theories of what my scumgame involves are very funny

Kiss my ass Peta

do you wanna do this pot shot shit at each other the whole thread?

here

let's create 50 pages of you and I sniping at eachothers perceptions of each other

where all we say is contentless shit like "Wrong"

hey, you can be like donald trump that way

[Lady Lambdadelta]

tired of your shit

[skitter30]

Oh speaking of hypocracy skitter

haven't you been calling me town basically all day today

and then recently you voted me while also calling me town for how I bet my life?

Why did you vote me if you're calling me town for that "manipulation"?

i have not actually!
i wasn't calling you town for the manipulation either. i was explicitly calling the bet nai but manipulative

(sorry i'm still like doing a few things for work so i'm not really here atm)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's not a reasonable comparison. I'm not terribly happy about skitter laying Day 2 in its entirety at our feet, and a few other players accepting that. I mean, I guess town or scum you don't want to take responsibility for your votes in this mess.

I'm not laying it at your feet, lol.

Skitter is laying it at MY feet now, ftr.

Skitter is laying it at anyone's feet but people she defends, which btw includes Peta who was a part of that whole fucking plan but that's not someone she'll consider right?

[petapan]

your theories of what my scumgame involves are very funny

Kiss my ass Peta

do you wanna do this pot shot shit at each other the whole thread?

here

let's create 50 pages of you and I sniping at eachothers perceptions of each other

where all we say is contentless shit like "Wrong"

hey, you can be like donald trump that way

tired of your shit

seems a little disproportionate but ok