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[skitter30]

i dont know some respect to let them make their point and argue for he elim while they're in the same thread?

I was thinking this too. If the double D scumread skitter so much, why turnstile her?
Huh??

i mean they're not the ones who did it (at least i'm p sure) and it sounds like you're faking being obtuse rn

[Spiffeh]

hey guys

[Deacon Blues]

don't you basically have to think LLD-skitter has to be S-S for this to be scummy from LLD?

ebwop

-b

[Dandelion Wine]

Lld you had like 5.5 votes on me (your whip count was slightly off, and i'm not *quite* sure you had the votes but it was p damn close), and you chose to send me to the other thread where you'll have sizeable less influence wrt this and where there's a p good chance i'll be able to talk my way out of it (no matter my alignment)

The goalposts, they just keep moving
-ceph

[skitter30]

?

[midwaybear]

i mean they're not the ones who did it (at least i'm p sure) and it sounds like you're faking being obtuse rn

Well, even so, the argument would still extend towards most people because they scumread you?
Also, I see that people want A50 dead. Pooky really getting out of this aliv ehuh

[Deacon Blues]

like it's [saving skitter under the auspices that she's sending skitter to the other thread to get elimed] would have to be your argument here, yeah?

-b

[Deacon Blues]

also considering skitter has all but claimed to be a PR in the other thread the S!LLD->T!Skitter relationship should be even less credible to people

-b

[Deacon Blues]

if skitter is getting turnstyled you may as well leave her up at this point till ELO and let her have to be accountable for some investigations

-b

[petapan]

i was contesting the plausibility of a skitter scumread given she seemed anti-aligned with certain people

me: i've literally filled pages with talk about why i scumread skitter all day; i have barely even seen the anti-alignment argument, much less given it a lot of thought yet.

ffery says she's giving some credence to that argument and that it's shaken up her read on skitter some, but you were not clear on what you wanted out of that interaction (a validation or refutation of your argument) and you seem to be griping about having her explain shit she doesn't have very clear thoughts on

-b

i was just looking for feedback i guess, to want validation or a refutation would imply a preconceived notion of what a response should be which is just terrible play. i just wanted some input, some words on what you're thinking that i can possibly grok because so much of your stuff feels like it's apparently hidden away in hydra discussion or pt discussion and i wanted transparency. like if you're town at this stage of the game and you believe i am town, we need to come together, you know, and i'm not feeling it anymore and so i try to start a dialogue but maybe i'm just too frantic and am fucking bad at it, i don't know

i'll revisit your arguments for skitter scum. fair's fair.

[Spiffeh]

@petapan from what I can tell a large part of your scum read on me seems to be because I've hard-tunneled A50 and haven't really provided the reasoning worthy of that tunnel

Can you explain why midwaybear's insistence on Pooky, which is fairly unsubstantiated from what I've read today, is any different and why you haven't called him out on that?

[petapan]

hey skitter before you leave this thread i'm sorry for flying off the handle at you end of day 2, although i had issues with what you were doing i should have expressed them in a more constructive and less mean spirited way

it is ok i am sorry for frustrating you

not your fault. really projection of my own irritation with the game. you're all right and i need to keep my emotions in check more

[Deacon Blues]

hydra discussion or pt discussio

i literally have not fucking posted in the hood i think in over a day
i've made probably 50 posts here in that time

I reserve the right to talk to my hydra partner as much as i fucking want lol. I'm not using it as a crutch and the constant insinuation that we're being cryptic in the here and now despite us having a fucking billion posts here is just not based in any kind of reality and i'm not having it

-b

[Spiffeh]

hey notty how's it going over there?

[Deacon Blues]

we need to come together, you know

i do know. I also need to reconcile that with what i've internalized, and that takes a little time on my end and is subject to my internal biases and it's hard.
I'm trying to figure out you vs spiffeh in my spare time because i feel like that got started in a weird spot and without having really understood why initially it was difficult to empathize w/ any of it. It requires constant resets and reevaluation, and we're trying to get there.
That's the best I can do. I'm rereading a lot of this game day.

-b

[petapan]

@petapan from what I can tell a large part of your scum read on me seems to be because I've hard-tunneled A50 and haven't really provided the reasoning worthy of that tunnel

Can you explain why midwaybear's insistence on Pooky, which is fairly unsubstantiated from what I've read today, is any different and why you haven't called him out on that?

pooky is scumread by a fair number of people and has been for a while, at one time i agreed with them. i think his reasoning as mostly been the common reasoning but it did feel natural for him. however, have grown increasingly concerned lately that i have been giving him too much leeway

[Spiffeh]

midwaybear, from the post below the start of the day you weren't really sure about Pooky being scum

UNVOTE: skitter
UNVOTE: LLD
UNVOTE: Pooky
Still not sure on Pooky. I need to look at his reads again.

Since then, you have insisted several times that Pooky should be the lim today so can you walk me through how you went from the above post to now being certain that Pooky is scum?

And on that note I think it's odd you keep saying Pooky needs to die but you voted me just because peta asked you to and I'm probably the most likely lim at this point since skitter is apparently being turnstiled?

If you want Pooky to die maybe start doing something about it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hydra discussion or pt discussio

i literally have not fucking posted in the hood i think in over a day
i've made probably 50 posts here in that time

I reserve the right to talk to my hydra partner as much as i fucking want lol. I'm not using it as a crutch and the constant insinuation that we're being cryptic in the here and now despite us having a fucking billion posts here is just not based in any kind of reality and i'm not having it

-b

think of peta as a politician

that's his talking point

it's what's winning him shit

he will keep hammering you and ffery and cabd and ceph with it

and i will take the blame for this cause i hit y'all up with the gambit yesterday

but now you can see they keep saying it to reduce your ability to do shit

[Spiffeh]

pooky is scumread by a fair number of people and has been for a while, at one time i agreed with them. i think his reasoning as mostly been the common reasoning but it did feel natural for him. however, have grown increasingly concerned lately that i have been giving him too much leeway

based on A50's recent contributions do you feel that you have been giving him too much leeway too?

What are your thoughts on my case-ish post on him?

[midwaybear]

I want Pooky to die because he never seems to be in the conversation anymore (both literally and the conversation to be hanged) and I'm finding that suspicious. I also don't think any of his content reads townie to me. He just ATE last night without really giving any reads. Sure, he said he didn't have any, but I would expect town Pooky to at least be doing something to try to get better reads instead of just lurking.

[skitter30]

if skitter is getting turnstyled you may as well leave her up at this point till ELO and let her have to be accountable for some investigations

-b

i haven't 'all but claimed a PR', i literally claimed pr there
and yes that's a good idea
at this rate elo is like tomorrow but eh

[petapan]

we need to come together, you know

i do know. I also need to reconcile that with what i've internalized, and that takes a little time on my end and is subject to my internal biases and it's hard.
I'm trying to figure out you vs spiffeh in my spare time because i feel like that got started in a weird spot and without having really understood why initially it was difficult to empathize w/ any of it. It requires constant resets and reevaluation, and we're trying to get there.
That's the best I can do. I'm rereading a lot of this game day.

-b

all right thanks

it's fine if you tell me it's wrong and it's a shit read because i'm wrong plenty and need people to stand in the way sometimes but i just want to be able to reach an understanding

[Deacon Blues]

i haven't 'all but claimed a PR', i literally claimed pr there

i know that and you know that i know that i'm just turning phrases

-b

[skitter30]

hey skitter before you leave this thread i'm sorry for flying off the handle at you end of day 2, although i had issues with what you were doing i should have expressed them in a more constructive and less mean spirited way

it is ok i am sorry for frustrating you

not your fault. really projection of my own irritation with the game. you're all right and i need to keep my emotions in check more

[Spiffeh]

I have a feeling that midwaybear knows his 'tunnel' on Pooky is just gonna fall on deaf ears and get lost in the shuffle today and when someone else is inevitably limmed (myself, A50) he can just continue that tunnel tomorrow with absolutely no backlash

PEdit:

Ok cool mwb

I agree he has been escaping radars lately

Do you feel that he's not in the conversation anymore because his potential scumbuddies are deliberately ignoring him and focusing their attention elsewhere?