TENET - Game Over

[skitter30]

skitter you were mostly talking to me, you'll note that is one of very few posts not signed by me today. ive been signing consistently.
-ceph

Right, since i was largely talking to u i just assumed that it was you and you missed signing one by mistake

Either way if cabd write it i take more issue than i did originally

What if scum have roles that are thread agnostic?
Thinking aloud

[Dunnstral]

but elimming a50 is fine

Bell, I'm not going to flip back to you today, you can chill, I'm not going to change my mind at the last minute

[Bell]

Hench Princess, I think LLD is town and your criticism is unfair

Turnstiling skitter over here makes sense because she wants to eliminate both skitter and someone else fromt hat thread, which I agree with

I don't really think the reads are in favor of a skitter flip over here Dunnstral. The second I saw them quick shoot Skitter over here, I was like, well the scum team is heavily fortified on that side probably so they let it happen.
They either looked at Skitter's avatar and decided it would be lovely to use a tiger to kill the annoying dog and they saw where skitter was going or they just looked at this thread, realied that hey, there's like 2 people town reading Bell here and everyone else is neutral to scum reading him.

So I don't think a surface analysis of this other thread and the game state really points to Skitter dying over here instead of me. Or at least, Skitter has a fighting chance imo.

[Hench Princesses]

I actually don't think Skitter is scum and think she's probably just wrong on A50.

Like, scum get a Watcher and a Tracker, and we get a Follower and Motion Detector? Idk, I feel like we're getting shafted on this one pretty hard if that's the case.

we never finished mass claim though

spiffeh never claimed and I think 1-2 others from inverted

[Bell]

but elimming a50 is fine

Bell, I'm not going to flip back to you today, you can chill, I'm not going to change my mind at the last minute

Oh.
Why did you decide skitter was more likely to be scum than me? Or whatever you're planning to lim etc.

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, but it doesn't mean they're going to claim investigative roles.

[Dunnstral]

Pooky posting his reads = Pooky being "political"

what are your reads

-b

He hasn't posted real reads

He keeps doing this woe is me thing

[skitter30]

Ll + midway + pooky + spiffeh i think
I'm not sure if we're all claimed here

And again i think dandelion's role is scum incarnate in this setup

[Dunnstral]

I don't think mass claim changes the outcome of this day phase.

[Brian Skies]

I guess you're right that my thoughts on it are a little premature, but I don't really have much of an issue with letting Skitter get an extra day.

[Dunnstral]

but elimming a50 is fine

Bell, I'm not going to flip back to you today, you can chill, I'm not going to change my mind at the last minute

Oh.
Why did you decide skitter was more likely to be scum than me? Or whatever you're planning to lim etc.

I'm listening to lld and dandelion wine and deacon

And also, I think they look bad in the other thread

[Bell]

Oh, that sounds like Tinnitus LLD.
Hopefully it'ss just temporary (mine's permanent).

[Brian Skies]

Like, every other claimed investigative role or implied unclaimed PR is at least trying (or pretending) to solve.

A50 is just skating by on his claim.

So out of that group, I'd yeet him every time.

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE: Turnstile: Annie Edison

[Dunnstral]

Oh, that sounds like Tinnitus LLD.
Hopefully it'ss just temporary (mine's permanent).

hey same

[Dunnstral]

Like, every other claimed investigative role or implied unclaimed PR is at least trying (or pretending) to solve.

A50 is just skating by on his claim.

So out of that group, I'd yeet him every time.

I don't think a50 scum means skitter town!

[Brian Skies]

He's still scum though.

[Dunnstral]

oh I agree

I'm saying we shouldn't hold off on skitter for a50 to flip first

and vice versa

[Brian Skies]

Well, my thinking is more along the lines of 'yes, Skitter very well could be scum, but we don't know that' and 'there is still at least one guaranteed scum in the pool of everyone that is not Skitter.'

I'd be more open to it if someone had a solid reason to scumread Skitter though.

[Brian Skies]

LLD, if you think A50 is scum, is there a reason why we can't just eliminate him instead?

[Gypyx]

Gyphx, without breaking the rules. Do you have a notes PT this game?

pretty sure that's breaking the rules already right?

[Gypyx]

skitter30
Annie Edison (notscience/The Bulge)
Dunnstral unwnd
superbowl9
Hench Princesses (Happy Unbirthday Boon/anon)
Bell
Brian Skies
Gypyx

more precisely this is where i'm at:
annie - ugh i'm willing to admit i am maybe wrong here but i'm still rethinking
dunn - town
sb9 - still probably town
hp - now that i know the main they're town and it's literally the strongest read i have here
bell - i'm leaning towards scum
brian - honestly idk probably scum
gypyx - still probably out of scumrange but kinda underwhelmed

you have both brian and bell as scum with the heavy shitfight they got themselves into? please enlighten me on that one

[Brian Skies]

i don't really want to vote a50 because his role does something where i'm literally pointless except as a theoretical conftown that's not being treated that way. this is true even if he is scum because there'd likely be some information to decide on

I think you're more likely to be town than A50 is, but I don't really feel inclined to defend you here if you're not even willing to vote him.

Like, I get the idea that your role is now useless whereas his still does

something

, but I think a scumflip is still more valuable than a townflip in any scenario, especially with our current position, and I don't think a scum-Tracker would go out of their way to net us a useful result in any case.

[Gypyx]

what elements made you discard your bell suspicions brian?

I still think he's scummy. But some of my townreads are insisting he's town.

I also feel like I'm being a little unfair to SB9, and even if SB9 is scum, I don't think Spiffeh was scum, so there is almost certainly still scum outside of him.

And every time I take a step back and reconsider my reads, I keep circling back to you.

cool, happy to hear you're willing to take a step back on bell

well yeah there's scum outside of bowl for sure, but we have bowl as scum, why give him a pass on that one because we know there's more out of him (or there might not even be)

and like idk, you're really seeing bowl's progession on annie as possibly coming from town?

[skitter30]

<3 to all of y'all over there