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[Firebringer]

this is the least pleasant game I've been in and I'm not sure I've had a single player here other than skitter and LLD approach me in good faith to actually sort me or work anything out so I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that I have little motivation to work on anything.

I spent like 5 posts yesterday trying to get anything from you and you threw it in my face
Of course I'm done trying that
-ceph

Lolololololololol like when u asked me how I wanted to be cooked or some shit

that was me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh im sorry i got mixed up when i logged in and suddenly 5 people with anime avatars started screaming at me for 20 different things stfu

[Dandelion Wine]

oh, this thread got too real. uh, catch you tomorrow i guess.
-ceph

[Firebringer]

Sending my love to the other side.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

to have my own way? is that what you think this is?

nah nah nah

like first of all i've never seen peta do that shit to a man and yet i had to deal with it twice in one game state. I had to deal with it when he was doing the shitty mason thing and then again there.

Once was an accident, twice fucking sucked and i called him out.

i don't think peta does it "because he's looking to talk down to women" but i also don't think that shit happens if i'm a man

or maybe i'm wrong and it's just oil and water

I don't know.

But I do know it happened more than once and specifically to me so i feel fucking justified in calling it out

Maybe it's because you're just an angry little firebird over there.

Also, if you eliminate Peta today, I'm going to do everything in my power to NOT eliminate Skitter just to spite you.

I dunno man.

i've been really on edge past week and i honestly don't know. it felt really bad when it was said and i said how i felt

[Lady Lambdadelta]

FB is right i really need to step back for a day or two.

FB actually being a good friend and looking out for me

i'm too angry and i don't know why

okay i know why a little

[Dandelion Wine]

right forgot abt a50 when i wrote that
eh i'm not sure i agree with the notion that 2 were turnstiled over

i'm p sure that at least one of {superbowl/spiffeh} are scum and got a nice pr activated

This literally makes no sense given publicly stated info we have that scum placed themselves pregame. And the fact that you're using this as a reason to scum read people is like uhhhhhhhhh?

what do you think fo this post btw?

ceph's post makes no sense

ok so it struck me as a potential slip at the time, but i kinda forgot abt it until a few minutes ago, and let me explain why:

we know that scum got to choose which thread we got to start in. the underlying assumption in ceph's post, if i'm understanding it right, is that scum are able to choose which thread they can start in, and

would thus start in the thread that would enable their role to work

(i.e. if i'm scum and a forward watcher i want to start in forwards) and would distribute themselves accordingly. he's using this argument to counteract my argument that scum!spiffeh or scum!sb9 wouldn't bother trying to turnstile because they'd already be in the apropriate thread.

however it's not clear when scum got their roles in relation to choosing the distribution, and i just asked sircakez that and was informed he would not answer that question

i didn't make that post.
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

skitter you were mostly talking to me, you'll note that is one of very few posts not signed by me today. ive been signing consistently.
-ceph

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I dunno man.

i've been really on edge past week and i honestly don't know. it felt really bad when it was said and i said how i felt

I understand why you might have thought what you did. But I really don't think that's what Peta meant by that comment.

ye, you're probably right?

like i know peta is a good dude and wouldn't mean that?

i just... anger.

sigh

also not an excuse for being so upset by my ear has been ringing for a week and i think i have a pimple in my ear canal and the ringing is driving me a ltitle mad

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, if you think A50 is scum, is there a reason why we can't just eliminate him instead?

It's the backup if I can't get peta, tbh.

Cause they're both scum, but, and I wanna be clear this is my ONLY OBJECTION:

If I do a50, peta will live forever

if I do peta, a50 will still die.

It's just a target priority and survivability issue.

[petapan]

like i know peta is a good dude and wouldn't mean that?

i try to be good but i don't always succeed. but i did not mean any personal insult with my remark.

[petapan]

i'm going to take a break from this game for today. i don't like what it has become. some of the emotional stuff has gotten extreme and it's no fun to deal with. this isn't directed at anyone in particular i just don't like the whole feel of things. the way accusations get taken as personal offenses is unpleasant. i've been trying to play with intensity but i regret pushing this as far as i have and now it feels like it's out of control and i don't want a part of it anymore

[midwaybear]

Scum are probably just putting it all on the table right now. Doesn’t feel like much can get done with everyone just ATE left ATE right.

[Firebringer]

FB is right i really need to step back for a day or two.

FB actually being a good friend and looking out for me

i'm too angry and i don't know why

okay i know why a little

Just need a break friendo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I agree.

let's take a break.

this game is not worth the emotional trauma.

[Deacon Blues]

Did anyone address this or could address whether gyphx could mention whether they have a notes PT or not

in order to answer he'd have to refer to mod communication and is therefore unethical (imo) for you to go on about

how's being town though?

-b

[Dandelion Wine]

It's been a helluva week. This game gets the spoons It deserves finally tomorrow.

[Spiffeh]

hey everyone I hope you're all having a tremendous Friday night

[petapan]

likewise

[Almost50]

Spoiler:

[SirCakez]

Elimination Votecount 5.13

Petapan (3) - Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, Almost50

Almost50 (2) - Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Spiffeh (2) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear

PookyTheMagicalBear (2) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

LadyLambdadelta (1) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Firebringer (1) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, Almost50

midwaybear (1) - Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Dandelion Wine (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Deacon Blues (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.
Firebringer is V/LA through Saturday.

[petapan]

Almost50, why did you crumb your track target in your first post?

[Almost50]

I wanted to crumb Tracker (I always do crumb my role, even as a VT), and didn't see why I wouldn't also crumb the target (wasn't sure the receiver gets it. I asked the mod later).

I also tried to ask my receiver (whom I didn't even know, but was sure they would be looking for me) whom they wanted me to Track with Britney Spears' video (if you don't get it, just review the lyrics)

Oh, baby, baby, how was I supposed to know
That something wasn't right here?
Oh, baby, baby, I shouldn't have let you go
And now you're out of sight, yeah
Show me how you want it to be
Tell me, baby, 'cause I need to know now, oh, because
My loneliness is killing me (And I)
I must confess I still believe (Still believe)
When I'm not with you I lose my mind
Give me a sign, hit me baby one more time

P.S. Frankly, I was hoping either skitter or Gamma were the receiver, as they both are pretty familiar with my way of crumbing and/or sending subtle messages

[Dandelion Wine]

Peta: I find myself in a place where I very much townread LLD but my other townreads disagree with her case. So, this is me trying to re-ISO you and give you a fair shake, yeah? Especially after how the past 48 hours played out.

Petapan - Early Day One

Spoiler: Day 1 (Super Early RVS/Reads)

Peta starts the game with a vote (yeah I'm gonna use traditional voting and not the stupid reverse unvoting notation deal with it) on every slot, amused he can. That leads directly into some setup spec regarding a similar setup from the past. I generally liked both of these posts at the time, I see no reason to dislike them now. The town read on midway as of post 36 is incredibly early, but is also my gut reaction to the post as well. (Side note: I took 34 to mean that Midway was trying to softclaim a role that can turnstyle and survive if shot)

His early reads are ones that I also vibe with, or Ceph did, or both. Namely, scumreads on Hench and Noraa, initially. I do disagree that NOTHING was standing out in reverse, given he'd already called out town and scum reads here, but possibly stylistic. Trying to be objective here. Boy is post 112 prophetic....

Another complaint of "lack of interesting content" in reverse seemed to be a theme.

But then we get to the Noraa openwolf era.

Spoiler: Day 1 (Noraa Wagon)

The heat on Noraa starts at post 331. The crux of peta's early read basis is in post 363. Quoting it here for emphasis:

nora complaining about the pace of the game thread is actually factually a scumclaim and is just cover for her not being able to produce content given that the pace is not particularly fast at all

I actually questioned the read at the time, and peta's reply is also copied here for ease of reference:

nora complaining about the pace of the game thread is actually factually a scumclaim and is just cover for her not being able to produce content given that the pace is not particularly fast at all

Do you think she actually walks in and does another death scroll in a game with LLD in her half?

I am hesitant.

~TDB

i think this is a list she'd struggle to fake content in where i'd expect her to be bounding in with energy regardless as town while the complaint about pace is just...SO out of place from ms 81.21 posts/day, you know?

Peta then townreads LLD, and voices more detail on the town read of Obtusebear

(97%, having seen his towngame twice and his scumgame twice (spectating illicit substances)

granted the illicit read was a lot slower to come by and i missed him for most of day 1, but he still hit similar pitfalls with regard to struggling to post. if his later posts this game had done something to call the gutread into doubt i'd have gone back on it, but so far so good)

Other reads of note here are an initial scumread of "LHF" and then backoff on owl, and a scumread of unwnd for "pushing votes on owl and then suspecting LLD for voting owl"

nah postulating that the scum are over in otherworld attempts to discourage serious inquiry into the people in your own thread when the max difference is 2 people anyway and feeling like you're the 2 side this early is bogus

I did agree with this at the time, also.

Okay, back to Noraa-slot...

Posts with that progression/talking back to Noraa here:

The only thing I know is that I remember thinking that if Peta's SR on me wasn't RVS/a joke, he had a pretty big possibility of being scum for that ridiculous push.

I also remember checking in sometime this morning and seeing LLD say something or another about Peta being conftown or something. Or maybe it was Peta saying LLD was conftown. Either way, I didnt like LLD from that interaction either.

the people who scumread you are scum, how revolutionary

I posted my first post in the game and you were like "SHES SCUM"

It reads really bad if you ask me.

that was a half-serious gutread, that became serious the moment you complained about the game being too fast and bounced

don't blame us. blame yourself or RNGesus

Even though as we know in the end this wagon was a miss, I can't bring myself to hate this progression even if I squint.

Made it to post 1537... not sure that is actually going to be useful for anyone that isn't me, though... Should I even bother continuing this style?

[Deacon Blues]

on reread i don't actually love the progression on noraa

especially culminating in 664; seems like he's piling on at a point where he should be looking for places he might be wrong; the point made in 363 is like, okay for a push but 664 implies a lockscum angle on it and eh

-b