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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:51 am

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I don't think it's good rn, I'm not into the game enough to be solid on my reads where I'd like to have conftown status to push them
but why do you ask? You keep asking that question exclusively at people under pressure, why?
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:51 am

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I also think the juxtaposition between his position on Flea and his interactions with you on an emotional level is him back sliding and contradictory in a way that I'm not sure BM would do as scum.

His interaction with Nacho is pretty classic BM, almost everyone has a bad first(ish) impression of BM and engages them as such with a negative interaction it's remarkly similar to how I first engaged them the first time I met them in which we got into a spat.
The other games you've played with him you were only really tangentially engaged/weren't being actively pushed by him.

I wish I could write like this as scum. This sort of posting is what is going to ensure I never play a good scum game. How do I even begin to make up this bullshit as scum?
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:53 am

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If I get a vote for who you wiggle a wand at and can make them an IC or whatever can I have a market share.
You think I'm town anyway and there are definitely players that I could drive myself insane trying to figure out that I could save myself the trouble on.
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:53 am

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Bellllll please be careful with my pronouns, it's happening a lot this game :( Please use fae/faer or they/them for me
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:53 am

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Bellllll please be careful with my pronouns, it's happening a lot this game :( Please use fae/faer or they/them for me
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 1503, Flea The Magician wrote:
Bellllll please be careful with my pronouns, it's happening a lot this game :( Please use fae/faer or they/them for me
I apologize. :(
I will make an effort. I absolutely mean nothing by it.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 1498, Bell wrote:1. I think you're a good player as either alignment. Have you rolled scum yet since you got back?
2. DGB scum once accurately stated I was needy for town reads as town. It was true. I like being town read I try to play like town when I'm town etc. It's a playstyle thing. But it's also a positioning check/occassional trap for players to hand me a TR too easily or fight hard against a Town player being correctly recognized as town by other town. It sort of generates information that can be useful later.

4. It's a perfectly constructed, believable, explanation that is in line with a town POV. Recognizing their own proclivities/bad posting habits and/or unproductive behaviors and then writing it out clearly and plainly when explaining themselves is very townie imo.
I even have a little meta experience with fed up BM and this is him directly recognizing some of his problem behaviors and going against them to the favor of a town win con.

It's just a very neat emotional post. It's almost tidy in its perfection.
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1. Can't really answer that. Ongoings, etc. I haven't gotten scum in any of my completed games and I'm not scum here, fwiw. I think it's pretty safe to say my scumgame sucks, though. Before my hiatus in 2018ish, I got handed like 5 consecutive scumgames and got absolutely beaten to shit with it. I have a complex about it now.
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@Gamma, How would you feel about being conftown? Would that be good or bad?
Bah, you're gonna make me blush. Fine. If I'm honest, I don't want to be conftown. Mechanically it doesn't mean much to me or the gamestate one way or the other so use it on someone who's low effort or is harder to read. I'm not near as hard to read as Nacho and I'm confident that you/Bell/others will figure it out fairly quickly if you haven't already. And from a personal standpoint, I'd rather not have it because I'm really fucking tired of being dead after Day 1. With the exception of FGO I've been dead by day 2 in every game I've played since I got back. Being conftown would do a boatload of nothing other than paint a target on my back. And my back hurts.
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:22 am

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In post 1500, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't think it's good rn, I'm not into the game enough to be solid on my reads where I'd like to have conftown status to push them
but why do you ask? You keep asking that question exclusively at people under pressure, why?
Okay, let's engage in a little hypothetical here. I'm dead/conftown/out of the game. You've got BM/SC townreads. Where do you go, and why?
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:33 am

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SC isn’t a townread
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 1501, Bell wrote:I also think the juxtaposition between his position on Flea and his interactions with you on an emotional level is him back sliding and contradictory in a way that I'm not sure BM would do as scum.

His interaction with Nacho is pretty classic BM, almost everyone has a bad first(ish) impression of BM and engages them as such with a negative interaction it's remarkly similar to how I first engaged them the first time I met them in which we got into a spat.
The other games you've played with him you were only really tangentially engaged/weren't being actively pushed by him.

I wish I could write like this as scum. This sort of posting is what is going to ensure I never play a good scum game. How do I even begin to make up this bullshit as scum?
i think its because people are jealous of me, don't take it to heart! :lol:
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:09 am

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Looks like no one wants the peoples champ to lead this town.
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:36 am

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with 13 alive it takes 7 to nominate. Nomination Phase 1 ends in (expired on 2021-01-09 22:25:25).


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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:37 am

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Okay gentle arm twisting here.
Please push flea into the arena. *gentle twist*

@syrnana: got it. I’ll look at it later. Ty.
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:39 am

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Hey guys, off-mod post here

Please let me know if

1) My votecounts have errors
2) They are not made frequent enough
3) Any other general criticism you have for me

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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:49 am

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In post 1508, Gamma Emerald wrote:SC isn’t a townread
Okay, that's my bad for misremembering what you said.

You said SC was playing similar to his scumgame. (I'm assuming you mean Nero-head). What has he done here you think specifically mirrors his scumplay?
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:50 am

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Battle Mage wrote:i think its because people are jealous of me, don't take it to heart! :lol:
In post 1497, Oil Tycoons wrote:What, in your opinion, has Gamma done in this game to disqualify him from being scummy or useless? Do you think his townread of you is legit?
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 438, Bell wrote:I don't think how Flea is responding to pressure is very townie.
If they are town, I am bad at mafia.
Why do you think that Flea is scum?
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:15 pm

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I read the game you linked earlier in the day phase and I can see where you’re coming from.
@oil. I’m processing it. It’s good to know that BM can project a sort of relaxed, confident demeanor as scum. There’s a lot to process because his scum game has quite a broad tool kit.
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:22 pm

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In post 567, Flea The Magician wrote:Oil has pinged me so amma do my thing.
When did we start pinging you? Last time BM asked you about your read on us you were leaning town and I don't think there was much content between then and this post.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:33 pm

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*yawn*
I'll catch up someday. or maybe I'll get lazy and make Johnny do it :3
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:34 pm

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In post 1519, Noraa wrote:*yawn*
I'll catch up someday. or maybe I'll get lazy and make Johnny do it :3
*pulls the covers up*
*goes to bed*
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:08 pm

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In post 1500, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't think it's good rn, I'm not into the game enough to be solid on my reads where I'd like to have conftown status to push them
but why do you ask? You keep asking that question exclusively at people under pressure, why?
Wouldn't conftown status give you more power to push your reads, not less?

I ask because I feel like it. I'm acting like a town treestump. *sings* It's my game and I'll ask what I want to. You would ask too in my shoes.
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:10 pm

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
To secure Gamma over Flea as I prefer Gamma over Flea.
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:10 pm

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Noraa, whose flip would have the most equity (meaning they'd solve the greatest number of slots)?
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:11 pm

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Same question to you mastina.
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