Mini Normal 2185 | EFoBBBiO | Game Over!

[Datisi]

Replacing NoPowerOverMe.

[Datisi]

joqiza replaces NoPowerOverMe.

[joqiza]

[bugspray]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
please don't misgender me i think we all know what happened to people recently who have done that

[Momrangal]

Why the fuck would I target OWER as scum. I'm not going to be scared of that slot possessing a power role in this game. Like I said, scum clearly have bigger fish to fry.

Conversely, the fact that OWER didn't move makes me beleive that I was wrong about my read on him.

The only plausible "guilty" that Grendel would have on my slot was that I went somewhere and it's pretty annoying that he automatically assumed scum, instead town PR and outting a PR in the process

[Momrangal]

I want to point out that both Momrangal and Bugs hopped on the ORAM wagon, and this was how Momrangal did:

ORAM was a compromise for the promise of OWER but I all but abandoned that OWER scum read for the reasons stated

[Momrangal]

You aren't wrong about be slowrolling since I came back from V/la but that had more to do with a billion games suddenly starting

[Luca Blight]

You’re wasting your time trying to talk sense into Trendall, Frogster.

I just played a game with them where I was by far the most TR player, pushing hard for the elimination of a very dubious slot. This slot claimed Doc (a day before potential MeLo) and I CC’d within four minutes of the claim. What’s more, if I were scum I would have had unbelievable towncred because he claimed to have protected me N1 when there was no kill, and yet Trendall still argued against me for saying the other guy was confirmed scum. I explained again and again how it made absolutely no sense for me to make that play as scum, but it was of no use. I thought maybe Trendall was just scum trying desperately to WIFOM, but they were Town.

I don’t think Trendall is scum here, but I’m really done in terms of interacting with them.

[Trendall]

I do not care about who the mafia are any more I'm honestly just going to replace out, I have better things to do.

[joqiza]

Um. Quick question...

Do we actually know how many scum there are? I'm assuming 4?

I can't find the info anywhere and I'm not sure how setups get balanced on this site. Might as well townslip while I'm figuring it out.

[Trendall]

I'm aware that they can be mafia trying to play on the fact that I said I was neurotic at the start of the game or whatever. This is just so tedious and I can't be bothered with it.

[joqiza]

Yooo I'm looking at these past Mini Normals and I'm seeing a lot of 3-scum teams. Is that de facto? We could have 3 ML's? Seems kind of wack ngl (I'm not complaining I'm just used to 2 ML or 1 ML setups).

[joqiza]

Okay well based on a quick skim of the past 8 or so completed Mini N's it looks like 3 scum is the default, and scum don't usually get any other kind of killing power thing so I'm going to be going off the working assumptions of:
- 3 scum
- 3 ML's (I would consider a town killing role using their shot as one of those ML's)

If these are dangerous assumptions to make please correct me. The balance seems very different from my home site EpicMafia tbh, I've only played one 13p before on there and it had 3 scum but the scum had a couple roles that could double-kill so we only had 2 ML's in the end. 3 ML's is kind of based.

Starting my rr right... now. Will update you all on my thoughts soon. Great to be here playing w/ you all! I'm excited!!!! First ever Mini Normal I've played on this site!!!! HYPE!!!

[joqiza]

whilst dubious

[Grendel]

Okay well based on a quick skim of the past 8 or so completed Mini N's it looks like 3 scum is the default, and scum don't usually get any other kind of killing power thing so I'm going to be going off the working assumptions of:
- 3 scum
- 3 ML's (I would consider a town killing role using their shot as one of those ML's)

If these are dangerous assumptions to make please correct me. The balance seems very different from my home site EpicMafia tbh, I've only played one 13p before on there and it had 3 scum but the scum had a couple roles that could double-kill so we only had 2 ML's in the end. 3 ML's is kind of based.

Starting my rr right... now. Will update you all on my thoughts soon. Great to be here playing w/ you all! I'm excited!!!! First ever Mini Normal I've played on this site!!!! HYPE!!!

yes 3 scum is typical for a mini-normal on MS.

also welcome to the game.

[Grendel]

I do not care about who the mafia are any more I'm honestly just going to replace out, I have better things to do.

Sorry you feel that way.

can we get legacy reads before you do?

[Grendel]

Why the fuck would I target OWER as scum. I'm not going to be scared of that slot possessing a power role in this game. Like I said, scum clearly have bigger fish to fry.

Conversely, the fact that OWER didn't move makes me beleive that I was wrong about my read on him.

The only plausible "guilty" that Grendel would have on my slot was that I went somewhere and it's pretty annoying that he automatically assumed scum, instead town PR and outting a PR in the process

Sorry Momrangel but you're scum here.

[Grendel]

*@Frogsterking*

you shouldn't have dropped the gambit today. Now Im going to be the NK. D:

I do agree that bugs reaction to your fake guilty was pretty awful.

[Trendall]

can we get legacy reads before you do?

As an absolute stab in the dark, Momrangal, Luca, and the third one I'll tell you later.

[joqiza]

Trendall, I saw you mentioned you like playing on EpicMafia. You should consider joining one of our EM forum games if you're ever around :3

[Trendall]

I'd totally forgotten about those. That's a great idea, thanks!

[Galron]

Starting to suspect a Grendel/Luca team.

[Galron]

It seems to me that Galron has gone out of his way to defend Bugs/deflect attention away from them on a few occasions.

This is true. I've defended Bugs. I think he's town.

[Galron]

It seems to me that Galron has gone out of his way to defend Bugs/deflect attention away from them on a few occasions.

This is true. I've defended Bugs. I think he's town.

That was shade out of nowhere with no follow-up from Luca.

[Galron]

Who first brought up the idea that Amelie wasn't the NK target? I've seen it from Frogster and Luca. I think at least one other person. In my experience it's rare that the shot is deflected elsewhere. I don't know how this theory got started, but I'm suspicious.