Newbie 2047: Eggskalon - Game Over

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[Chumbo]

I really don't get the intention behind the PRs post by N_M. It seems scummy. As long as the pressure isn't put too much on PRs I don't see why they should claim.

I'm thinking it's either Not_Mafia or Ninetails.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[borkjerfkin]

Ninetales was prodded.

[Not_Mafia]

I really don't get the intention behind the PRs post by N_M

The intention is there in black and white, you just don't want to read it as scummy because you don't like me as a player

[Not_Mafia]

I really don't get the intention behind the PRs post by N_M

The intention is there in black and white, you just

don't

want to read it as scummy because you don't like me as a player

PEdit

[Not_Mafia]

Not_Mafia is really pro-town.Everyone should trust him.
VOTE: Not_mafia

I think Not Mafia is the most likely to be mafia.He has been acting insane since the beginning. Its like'Let the town fight among themselves.'
Marcistar: You are voting me but you are ignoring Not_Mafia.What should I think of that?
Most likely partners are paopao or marcistar but I am not sure about that yet.

Why I think Marcistar is scum partner with not_mafia is because she voted me for not being so active but ignored not_mafia.Pao because of the post where he said he doesn't believe no_mafia is scum.But then I remembered that many other players are also not noticing not_mafia so I realized I was wrong.

I feel we should sort out not_mafia first if that's his play style or something.Idk if he'll get any serious. I think scum use D1
for townies to get eliminated as in the end only they get suspected because the scum are just trying to not get suspected.

So nobody else thinks not_mafia is scum?

MOD: Is there some kind of rule that one scum is always SE or is it completely random?

This isn't how newbscum acts with their partner

[Chumbo]

The intention is that people should claim, but why? In any of these scenarios, the person just gets outed as a PR. We still have the same percentage chance beforehand. Do you just not want to waste time scumreading a PR?

Pedit: Those were all in the first few pages of the game.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Donkey Kong

[Chumbo]

VOTE: Donkey Kong

[Not_Mafia]

The intention is that people should claim,

No it's that a very specific PR should claim, because they put us in a 75% chance to win

We still have the same percentage chance beforehand.

We don't, please go back and read the post, if there is a Friendly Neighbour, we can confirm 3 people as town, giving us a 4 person scumpool with 3 eliminations left

Pedit: Those were all in the first few pages of the game.

Your point being? Scum are at their most awkward and unsure at the start of the game. Newbscum doesn't come out bussing, they come out trying to push what they think is an easy miselim cos they see the idiot with the dancing cow avatar claiming Jester in giant rainbow text. Scum love to try and push me early game.

[Chumbo]

Your point being? Scum are at their most awkward and unsure at the start of the game. Newbscum doesn't come out bussing, they come out trying to push what they think is an easy miselim cos they see the idiot with the dancing cow avatar claiming Jester in giant rainbow text. Scum love to try and push me early game.

Why? Nobody who is the first wagon gets lynched early. It always goes on from what I've seen. If your going to pretend to bus, it seems best to do it early on.

[Not_Mafia]

Good sir, you are tunneled

[Chumbo]

I just want to know how claiming helps town. I promise I'm really not tunneling.

[Not_Mafia]

Btw there's a 1/3 chance we're in a set-up with just one PR.

Everyone should confirm if they are a friendly neighbour in their next post. If there is a Friendly Neighbour then the 2 PRs plus the innocent from the JK or Tracker gives us 3 conftowns and leaves us with 1 scum to find in 4 people and 3 eliminations to do it, which is a 75% chance to win.

If there isn't one and there is a tracker then they know they either have a doc or JK to protect them and can out results with more confidence,

If there are masons then those claiming puts us in a good position, with 3 eliminations in 5 players. But it's debatable whether they should claim.

Which part do you want clarification on?

[Chumbo]

Why PRs should claim even though it opens them up to NKs.

[Not_Mafia]

If there is a Friendly Neighbour, then we are in one of two set-ups

Goon, Rolecop vs Friendly Neighbour, Jailkeeper and 5 VTs
Goon, Rolecop vs Tracker, Jailkeeper and 5 VTs

The JK or Tracker cannot have been blocked so will be guaranteed to have a result (unless they targetted Battle Mage, which is unlikely), the two PRs plus the innocent result from the JK or Tracker gives us 3 confirmed town, meaning only 4 players can possibly be scum, we have 3 eliminations left so we would have 3/4 chance to eliminate the last scum

[Not_Mafia]

If there is a Friendly Neighbour, then we are in one of two set-ups

Goon, Rolecop vs Friendly Neighbour, Jailkeeper and 5 VTs
Goon, Rolecop vs Tracker,

Jailkeeper

Friendly Neighbour and 5 VTs

The JK or Tracker cannot have been blocked so will be guaranteed to have a result (unless they targetted Battle Mage, which is unlikely), the two PRs plus the innocent result from the JK or Tracker gives us 3 confirmed town, meaning only 4 players can possibly be scum, we have 3 eliminations left so we would have 3/4 chance to eliminate the last scum

PEdit

[Chumbo]

Why does the setup matter enough to potentially kill PRs tonight? If they don''t need to claim, they might not die.

[Not_Mafia]

Because Friendly Neighbour is the only active town PR that only exists in the Goon/Rolecop set-ups, therefore it's the only role that can claim without the danger of there being a roleblocker to have stopped PR results or being the sole PR against two goons.

It's the only role that is almost guaranteed to lead to the 75% chance to win. The only thing that would stop it is if the Tracker/JK targetted the NK'd player or the FN themself, which is unlikely and in which case they don't out.

[Chumbo]

Every setup has a goon in it. If you can show me evidence that you've done this before as town, I'll believe you. Goon is the most likely mafia role.

[Not_Mafia]

Every setup has a goon in it.

How is that relevant to anything I just said?

[Not_Mafia]

I haven't done this before as town

[Chumbo]

I really just don't know. I don't understand why this would be beneficial.

[Ninetales]

Sorry life got busy and I only got to check in a few times during the last day phase nearing the end. I've seen the flip and I'm very glad we hit scum on day 1 because that greatly lowers the chances of scum winning. I'm not done reading all of yesterday's end but just looking at the wagon alone, Marcistar looks really good and catboi looks terrible. I'll finish reading everything today.

[catboi]

Yawn. You're boring, Ninetales.