One Night Stand [Game Over]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if there are no TPRs that prevent night kills it can also create false innocents that can endgame - you kinda know this p well since I did it to you last time we fought so I'd think you'd think it'd be poetic in a way to get me back with the same move.

[Ahsoka]

it makes sense on even numbers and can bait out a TPR with a bad read.

I would still rather control the gamestate more with a kill to a threat.

I understand the choice, though. I just don't think I would make it ever.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have to end games quick as scum, because town me has no reason to not solve games in the end game. It's why I don't bus very often.

I usually start to become painfully obvious town as the game progresses, so scum have to fight that, and as scum, I have to try to recreate it. That's easy in early game, but I'm an early game scum player/late game town player.

what does ending quickly have to do with no-killing?

it's not like town gets one more day after a no-kill on evens.

[Ahsoka]

I am the no kill god, Pooky. But I have never made a no kill on Night 1.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean you say you would never make it but I can't exactly just take your word for "i would never do this as scum"

I felt it was scummy for you to bring it up because it seemed baity in a way. It's almost like a villain who is annoyed that nobody is speculating about his crime.

[Ahsoka]

I have to end games quick as scum, because town me has no reason to not solve games in the end game. It's why I don't bus very often.

I usually start to become painfully obvious town as the game progresses, so scum have to fight that, and as scum, I have to try to recreate it. That's easy in early game, but I'm an early game scum player/late game town player.

what does ending quickly have to do with no-killing?

it's not like town gets one more day after a no-kill on evens.

Yes, but it's harder to control gamestate, which is like my entire thing as scum.

I have way too many threats this game to No Kill.

[Ahsoka]

I mean you say you would never make it but I can't exactly just take your word for "i would never do this as scum"

I felt it was scummy for you to bring it up because it seemed baity in a way. It's almost like a villain who is annoyed that nobody is speculating about his crime.

I personally think it's dumb to no kill here. We can talk about this post game if you can't trust me with it here.

[Ahsoka]

Pooky, I've been pushed as scum who shot my own teammate multiple times, when I was vigilante. You were in that game.

This is the exact same thing.

People don't know my scum game, but they think they do.

Sorry, if people haven't been around my scum game for over 3+ years, they don't know my scum game. They know 1/7th of my scum game.

[clidd]

Selfmeta is the same thing you did on names on the list as scum.

"I wouldn't do x as scum, scum!me would do y, and etc etc"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes, but it's harder to control gamestate, which is like my entire thing as scum.

I have way too many threats this game to No Kill.

um 1 more person is not harder to control game state. it's actually easier to control game state as scum on evens.

assuming 3 scum - 7 town

you need 6/7 town to vote you off

if you nightkill and its 3 scum - 6 town, you only need 5/6 town to vote you off.

esp if you have your team planning to not bus.

[Ahsoka]

Yes, but it's harder to control gamestate, which is like my entire thing as scum.

I have way too many threats this game to No Kill.

um 1 more person is not harder to control game state. it's actually easier to control game state as scum on evens.

assuming 3 scum - 7 town

you need 6/7 town to vote you off

if you nightkill and its 3 scum - 6 town, you only need 5/6 town to vote you off.

esp if you have your team planning to not bus.

Disagree, but you don't know how to correctly town read me anyways.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This isn't even about town-reading you

it's about how scum control game state...

[Ahsoka]

Selfmeta is the same thing you did on names on the list as scum.

"I wouldn't do x as scum, scum!me would do y, and etc etc"

I have a hydra named Self Meta, dude. I just like talking about myself.

Frankly, I'm getting kinda annoyed with this game.

People think they know scum me based on 2 or 3 games, but my entire scum playstyle is a toned down version of my town style. I self meta more as town than I do as scum.

You keep pushing the things I specifically do as scum because I do them as town.

I haven't tunneled anyone yet, so that's something that town me usually does.

[Ahsoka]

This isn't even about town-reading you

it's about how scum control game state...

And I disagree that a no kill is fine here.

It's a play.

I think it's an inferior play.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.


It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.

lol what is this?

Day 3 is MyLo if we miss here, there is no Day 4.

[Ahsoka]

Did you make a no kill as scum here and are just mad at me for thinking it wasn't a good play?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

lol does your target know of you?

[Ahsoka]

It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.

It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.

Nevermind, this is a 12 player game. I keep thinking it's a large.

literally read 2 posts later, pooky.

[Ahsoka]

Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

lol does your target know of you?

No clue. I don't know their role.

I thought about asking around for it, but if it's town, we both will end up dying, and if it's scum, then it's whatever. I'll be night killed eventually anyways.

I'm not scum here, and if you're town, you should know you absolutely don't know how to town read me for reasons.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Did you make a no kill as scum here and are just mad at me for thinking it wasn't a good play?

I'm town dude.

[Ahsoka]

Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

lol does your target know of you?

No clue. I don't know their role.

I thought about asking around for it, but if it's town, we both will end up dying, and if it's scum, then it's whatever. I'll be night killed eventually anyways.

I'm not scum here, and if you're town, you should know you absolutely don't know how to town read me for reasons.

ones I can't bring up

[clidd]

I'm pushing you because your reasoning to think I'm scum setting you up doesn't make any sense for town!you to think.

I reevaluated the reasons and came to the same conclusion.

[Ahsoka]

Did you make a no kill as scum here and are just mad at me for thinking it wasn't a good play?

I'm town dude.

I had gotten to that conclusion before you started doing whatever it is you're doing here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm reading and reacting to your posts as I read them.

Your role also doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Innocent Child Lover seems like more -town EV than +town ev.

[Ahsoka]

I'm reading and reacting to your posts as I read them.

Your role also doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Innocent Child Lover seems like more -town EV than +town ev.

Yeah, I agree.