One Night Stand [Game Over]

[clidd]

u must be just so delusional and full of yourself that you think Ahsoka is still scum even when there's evidence out there to suggest that he could be town

I'm just being true to my analysis.

If you confirmed that your was true, I would probably apologize and change the instance, because I would have a mechanical reason antagonistic to my read.

[clidd]

And, well, if you guys wanna do Menalque, it's ok, go ahead.

I don't control any vote other than mine.

[clidd]

Honestly, I’m not gonna play anymore. Derps just pushing me to push me because they don’t want me to get away as scum. It’s effectively a policy push, but one is coming from scum.

It isn't a policy push and you know that.

[clidd]

[Ahsoka]

Honestly, I’m not gonna play anymore. Derps just pushing me to push me because they don’t want me to get away as scum. It’s effectively a policy push, but one is coming from scum.

It isn't a policy push and you know that.

Nah, it is by Menalque and Pooky. Pooky derptunneled misfaded me. I think your scum.

Your reasons are actually bad and frankly i don’t want to play this anymore. You’re legitimately wrong.

And I’m like one step away from getting toxic because of how annoyed i am.

There is literally nothing that can convince me this isn’t the combination of policy from me winning my scum games and players wanting me not to get away mixed in with scum pushing me.

Like there’s no other options.

[clidd]

Correction: If you confirmed that your claim was true*

[Ahsoka]

Your push is scum*

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: menalaque

[clidd]

Ok, but you are being ignorant, Ahsoka.

I had a huge progression of information on you on the hood (and that you can see) until reaching the current read.

You're acting like my push is randomly based on me wanting you to be scum, when it's not the truth.

[Hopkirk]

Honestly, I’m not gonna play anymore. Derps just pushing me to push me because they don’t want me to get away as scum. It’s effectively a policy push, but one is coming from scum.

It isn't a policy push and you know that.

Nah, it is by Menalque and Pooky. Pooky derptunneled misfaded me. I think your scum.

Your reasons are actually bad and frankly i don’t want to play this anymore. You’re legitimately wrong.

And I’m like one step away from getting toxic because of how annoyed i am.

There is literally nothing that can convince me this isn’t the combination of policy from me winning my scum games and players wanting me not to get away mixed in with scum pushing me.

Like there’s no other options.

think you'd make this post as scum? heavy ate stuff i mean

[clidd]

And you are projecting your frustration on me wanting me to feel bad for pushing you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

?

I have my stated reasons why I believe you are scum. it has nothing to do with "policy"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Loyal Vigilantes are +EV, its like a Cop/LHF clearer rolled up in one.

Your role is kind of insane.

Let's take a worst case scenario.

Town mis-elims, scum shoot the lovers, you become a lover -> 9 alive 3 scum?
Town mis-elims, scum shoots you or your lover -> 6 alive 3 scum? game over?

Like I'm not sure how that makes sense as a setup where the town only has 2 mis-elims.

Unless there's like only 2 scum, the scum don't have a nightkill, or like your target is scum.

1) there r only 2 scum - um I'm not sure I've seen a mini size game with only 2 scum, maybe 2 scum + a traitor? some1 else can help me if these actually happen.
2) scum don't have a nightkill - I don't think this is true.
3) your target is scum - ok but why? if your target is scum and you loverize them and become an IC, we're in a p shit spot, scum can just never shoot you and the scum you are loverized to is suddenly very bleh for us to push because it's got an IC loverized to it.

Someone tell me if Ahsoka's role makes any sense. I kinda feel like it doesn't but I'm happy to be shown I'm wrong.

this is my reasoning for why your claimed role does not make sense in this setup

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you were acting like I was calling Uncrowned town because I said he was informed I was town. Scum him is informed.

Well, you're wrong. I don't know what to say. You're wrong. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it's not happening, but go ahead and misfade me again.

No that's not what I am saying about Uncrowned.


I'm saying that your thought process for targeting Uncrowned does not make a lot of sense to me.. that has nothing to do with whether Uncrowned is a townie or is a scum.

Specifically this exchange:

1433 why did you even target uncrowned in the first place?
1435 I thought they might be aware of me, and was possibly signaling me.
1436 which post indicated signalling to you?
1437 they've had me at lock town all game. I felt like maybe they were informed that I was town.


The reason I ask this series of questions is because I am looking for if you actually had this role in the beginning of the game and it's not just something you made up just now. The way I am trying to verify is to see if you were looking for breadcrumbs or signalling from your Night 1 target.

I am disappointed with your responses because instead of producing a post which sends a clear signal or is something that would make sense, you hypothesize that his role is one that is informed of both your identity and your role - this is something that does not make sense to me for two reasons:

1) It is pointless for an IC-loverizer to link with an Informed Townie - you increase the negative EV for the town while not gaining anything really since the player was already informed to be a protown player.

2) It's not clear to me you were actually looking for a lover crumb to begin with since you did not produce one that makes sense from Uncrowned.

the reason (2) is especially an issue for me is because I made this post as my first post:

Spoiler: Pooky First Post

The Sky Muse

I walk outside into the frigid night,

The wind sends shivers into my bones,

My tears freeze in the air as they drop,

Ten thousand stars shining in the night sky,

I wait for my lover by the Frozen Lake.

Who knows where love goes when the Moon hides?

Where will I find my soulmate?

I beg you, please, be mine, be mine.

Now I don't know how you could possibly have your role, read that post, and not target me at night if you actually wanted to link.

Like if I had your role, I would be actively looking for lover crumbs and my first post isn't so much as a crumb as a giant shining spotlight.

So for you to like read that, and not think hey Pooky is the target, just doesn't make sense to me. Hence I don't think you actually have your role.

This is my reasoning for why your play does not make sense if your role is what you claim it is.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if someone wants to claim they are the person you are "looking for" I will re-consider part 1.

[clidd]

I still not buying the AtE.

[clidd]

I mean, she can be frustrated as a scum too, so it's not entirely unrealistic if the feelings are real.

Frustration in the sense of being caught for the wrong reasons (although I specified the impressions that led me to the scumread).

So I remove the premise of 1615.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like his scumread on me is so bad and like
a lot of other players just seem super fucking townie so like it just has to be him and no one wants to vote him thats honestly the best part too

I am down to vote out Menalque.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: menalque

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have seen flavor leaf get very fustrated as scum and straight up concede so the fustration is nai for me. the main thing I am looking at for his alignment is the claim and the way he played it - both of which point for me towards flavor leaf lying


if anyone wants to claim they are his lost lover that he is searching for, i will reconsider. but otherwise this is a scum for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who is FL scum with though? MT?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am not really looking at associatives.

[clidd]

She is scum individually, ABR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Menalque will probably flip scum, I don't think it's a toss up as pooky and clidd are suggesting.

[clidd]

No, he's a conflip.

Nahdia disappeared from the forum and Menalque became ill, it is difficult to measure these factors.