Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[wellermanbob]

Chara is like incredibly obvious town to me, so if people want me to think they're town, not scumreading there is probably a good place to start.

let me go look at the playerlist and think of some "safe" kills that I'm more of a fan of than these wagons popping up on Red or catboi

[wellermanbob]

jjh would be fine to pressure for post 295

A&M is oooookay

I don't really get what mistyx is doing but probably wouldn't want to eliminate them today. Still want infinity

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I don't believe in NAI tbh

Why not?

Because everything that happens in the game is influenced by the role you were assigned in a game. Maybe a completely off topic conversation like a favorite color, but for things that are "game relevant" in some sense, the passive choices we make in how strongly to convey our opinions, the care we take to ruffle feathers or not, etc, it all influences the game, so it is all AI.

Okay I think you misunderstood me then. I meant that the posts 96 and 97 aren’t posts that I would consider to be alignment indicative for me in any way. I think the other ones are town indicative for me.

[wellermanbob]

Let's talk about that after the game. It feels more theoretical of an opinion difference than game relevant, but I will continue to keep those posts in mind as I evaluate your play

[Smoke and Mirrors]

jjh would be fine to pressure for post 295

A&M is oooookay

I don't really get what mistyx is doing but probably wouldn't want to eliminate them today. Still want infinity

Spoiler:

Can you post links as in 295 because it makes it easier to find which posts you’re referring to?

Why is A & M better than Red in your opinion?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Let's talk about that after the game. It feels more theoretical of an opinion difference than game relevant, but I will continue to keep those posts in mind as I evaluate your play

Sure, keep ALL of them in mind and I will do the same for you.

[wellermanbob]

Didn't know that was possible, can't promise I will, but will make an effort. And it's a few things, like being suspected for some substance versus lack thereof, plus who has moved to one versus the other.

[wellermanbob]

I will do the same for you.

Every single one of my great posts is capable of standing in isolation!

[Smoke and Mirrors]

jjh, any other reads?

-Inf

That implies those were reads which they weren't; I'm pretty null on both Red and Bob

Cat, Misty, Infinity all town
Leaning town on Titus and Chara
Nobody is particularly standing out as being more likely than average to flip scum at the moment

@bob what do you dislike about this?

[wellermanbob]

It's a bad list of reads plus it has mutually exclusive statements in it?

t5 townreads and yet of the other 7 players nobody is "more likely than average to flip scum"

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Didn't know that was possible, can't promise I will, but will make an effort. And it's a few things, like being suspected for some substance versus lack thereof, plus who has moved to one versus the other.

[ post ] 000 [/ post ] minus the spaces.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I will do the same for you.

Every single one of my great posts is capable of standing in isolation!

I’ll take your word on that.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

It's a bad list of reads plus it has mutually exclusive statements in it?

t5 townreads and yet of the other 7 players nobody is "more likely than average to flip scum"

He said “at the moment” meaning he doesn’t have any scumreads yet.

I’m presuming you disagree on Infinity and Mystix in particular, because you scumread Infinty and nullread Mystix.

[wellermanbob]

I mean, it's a bad list and bad in the way that it feels less likely to come from wayward town.

But also if you have 5 townreads and everyone else is indistinguishable then you have 7 scumreads. The statements don't feel natural together.

[wellermanbob]

And now when you disagree I'll go back to pointing out that me explaining was futile

[Raya36]

I don't think jj's post was bad. Wouldn't scum being trying to push at least somebody? I don't see scum pointing out townreads but failing to scumread anyone.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

And now when you disagree I'll go back to pointing out that me explaining was futile

No I’m really glad you’re explaining this. At the very least I can see how your thought process works which helps me to read you, so that is definitely useful in itself.

I guess I’m reading #295 as NAI but it’s interesting that he makes it a point of saying the other 7 are indistinguishable.

[wellermanbob]

being trying to push at least somebody

Why?

[wellermanbob]

NAI

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdsnUibXbl8[/youtube]

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I don't think jj's post was bad. Wouldn't scum being trying to push at least somebody? I don't see scum pointing out townreads but failing to scumread anyone.

I think the lack of scumreads part is NAI but that the number of townreads may be town indicative because scum doesn’t like to townread too many people.

[wellermanbob]

Okay I'll be back when I'm not triggered

[Smoke and Mirrors]

NAI

[youtube] MdsnUibXbl8 [/ youtube]

???

[Smoke and Mirrors]

@bob, you’re saying that jjh having the remaining 7 slots as indistinguishable is possibly scum indicative. I’m saying it’s NAI because it is but I read the 5 townreads part as town indicative, which means I think it’s probably town indicative.

You’re very entertaining if albeit a bit strange.

[Infinity Zero]

Nancy going through all this playstyle translation to try and sort bob is ++town

-Inf

[catboi]

Catboi, uh, what's stopping akara from also just being town that disagrees with you?

-Inf

Because the timing of her bob vote didn't feel good. I've hardly said it's a strong read, though.