Newbie 2047: Eggskalon - Game Over

[Not_Mafia]

But is she scum?

[catboi]

Very possibly.

I am a goon
I know I was a townread but masons thing made me scummy.

I don't really know what to make of this...
scumslip?

I doubt its a scumslip. I think Lonemarkhor's just town here. His actions are way to scummy for him to have a buddy in the pt.

Ninetales was consistently critical of Lone but kept finding excuses to vote elsewhere.

[marcistar]

Right now, I would say that I agree, especially with the way Ninetales made an excuse for Lone as being too scummy to be scum. What do you think about my points on muh?

do you mean the points in 452? i think

I don't get why muh would bus that much on day 1

is a very good point, however i dont really think about that much myself, scum can do anything they want. hes an se. surely if he was scum he would know how to appear town in the case of a partner flip.

The intention is that people should claim, but why? In any of these scenarios, the person just gets outed as a PR. We still have the same percentage chance beforehand. Do you just not want to waste time scumreading a PR?

Pedit: Those were all in the first few pages of the game.

do you see not_mafia as scummy for this? im honestly so confused about whats going on rn the stats not_mafia posted made my brain hurt
i just thought maybe he didnt read too much, but im so confused about that either way.

Your point being? Scum are at their most awkward and unsure at the start of the game. Newbscum doesn't come out bussing, they come out trying to push what they think is an easy miselim

this is what i agree with alot
(and its why im so sure now that not_mafia has to be town)

Why? Nobody who is the first wagon gets lynched early. It always goes on from what I've seen. If your going to pretend to bus, it seems best to do it early on.

this

is

a newbie game right? i wouldn't be surprised if scum wanted to push an easy lynch hoping that newbies would mindlessly agree with it.

If there is a Friendly Neighbour, then we are in one of two set-ups

i dont think there is. this is useless convo imo rn. (and people are attacking you for it).

Sorry life got busy and I only got to check in a few times during the last day phase nearing the end. I've seen the flip and I'm very glad we hit scum on day 1 because that greatly lowers the chances of scum winning. I'm not done reading all of yesterday's end but just looking at the wagon alone, Marcistar looks really good and catboi looks terrible. I'll finish reading everything today.

kinda dont believe you... you're "very glad" that we hit scum, but said scum wasnt even read as anything from you. your scumreads were me and catboi, who you've been tunneling all phase that you failed to look at anyone else.
now that it cant be me x catboi,
can you make a list of updated reads? your reads from before of mostly everyone as neutral is not really spicy enough

[marcistar]

wait omf i read something wrong

>this is a newbie game right? i wouldn't be surprised if scum wanted to push an easy lynch hoping that newbies would mindlessly agree with it.

ignore this one guys LOL I WAS READING TOO FAST CUZ I WASNT SURE WHEN PRODS HAPPEN AND WHAT HAPPENS ONCE U RECIEVED 2 IN ONE GAME-

[Not_Mafia]

Anyone who votes marcistar should be insta-flash elim'd

[marcistar]

Anyone who votes marcistar should be insta-flash elim'd

why so?

[Not_Mafia]

Anyone who votes marcistar should be insta-flash elim'd

why so?

https://youtu.be/991UM2-Fww0?t=10

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 2.1

[2] donkihott (muh316, Not_Mafia)
[2] Not_Mafia (donkihott, Chumbo)
[1] muh316 (marcistar)
[1] Ninetales (catboi)

[1] Not Voting (Ninetales)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-14 19:30:00)

[marcistar]

Anyone who votes marcistar should be insta-flash elim'd

why so?

https://youtu.be/991UM2-Fww0?t=10

alrighty

[Ninetales]

I'm finished reading and will share all of my reads tomorrow.

[donkihott]

Anyone who votes marcistar should be insta-flash elim'd

I like this. I'll take your word for it and if you're town blame you for it, if not then well it will be easier for me to vote you lmao

[Not_Mafia]

Anyone who votes marcistar should be insta-flash elim'd

I like this. I'll take your word for it and if you're town blame you for it, if not then well it will be easier for me to vote you lmao

Wut

[Chumbo]

do you see not_mafia as scummy for this? im honestly so confused about whats going on rn the stats not_mafia posted made my brain hurt
i just thought maybe he didnt read too much, but im so confused about that either way.

Kind of, I'm still trying to figure him out.

@Not_Mafia: after the initial self-vote were all your other votes for who you thought were scummiest?

[Not_Mafia]

do you see not_mafia as scummy for this? im honestly so confused about whats going on rn the stats not_mafia posted made my brain hurt
i just thought maybe he didnt read too much, but im so confused about that either way.

Kind of, I'm still trying to figure him out.

@Not_Mafia: after the initial self-vote were all your other votes for who you thought were scummiest?

The Donkey Kong vote was, the rest were troll votes

[Ninetales]

Ok here is where I start the formal replying catch up.

Also, Lone flipping mafia would tell us just as much, wouldn't it? Like, in the hypothetical world where he flips mafia, I'd clear marci, pickles, and muh. I'm not sure that world is likely, but claiming you get "better info" from killing me IF I flip scum is just totally biased.

I overlooked this before but it definitely isn't great that Catboi has posts like this saying Lone is scum but then when Lone's wagon actually got big, he leaves it.

If catboi flipped town I'll go for donkihott or ninetales or not_mafia(less evidence that chumbo is scum) but hopefully we won't need that and I am confident catboi is scum.

This is coming from scum. I'm actually going to straight off the bat say that Donki, Notmafia, Catboi, and Chumbo are town. This seems like he is setting up townies on a town flip and he wouldn't do that if catboi actually flips scum right? Because if Catboi flipped scum, he wouldn't be able to plausibly push these people.

VOTE: LoneMarkhor

self-preservation vote. I don't have much to say at this point. Please no one hammer me until I have a chance to claim and give final reads.

I'll reiterate I don't really find you scummy even if I have some doubts, I just know I'm town so any other option is better.

I can see this coming from town.

Votecount 1.7

[4] catboi (Chumbo, LoneMarkhor, Ninetales, donkihott)
[4] LoneMarkhor (marcistar, Pickles, muh316, catboi)
[1] donkihott (Not_Mafia)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-06 10:30:00)

I really want to say that the reason catboi didn't get hammered is because both scum were on him but if donki isn't scum, I cannot see chumbo as scum here.

final reads for if I'm hammered:

Town reads:
marcistar
Not_Mafia (I would assume as mafia he'd just hammer one of us rather than post about donkihott)
LoneMarkhor (I know I'm voting him for self-presevation but really don't find him scummy and hate that I've been forced into this.

I have a very weak townlean on Pickles. I wouldn't carry that to the bank because I don't like the fact that he complained about the pace of the game and then when activity picked up he stopped playing the game, but it might be something to do with not being able to adapt to the pace of games here.


Scum reads:
donkihott
chumbo
ninetales
muh316

donki and ninetales are never together. I would get donki first. If he's scum, get chumbo after that. Ninetales frustrates me a lot because she does rude crap like accusing me of playing badly for disagreeing with her and trying to urge people to hammer me but it felt like there was some things that could be from town, like her suggesting paopao with the self-awareness thing might be a PR but not wanting to out it. BUT if donkihott flips town, Ninetales should be first to go on day 3. Don't buy into whatever excuses she makes.

muh I'm just really not sure on because I haven't really liked what he's been posting and his reads seemed to shift with popular opinion but gut says he might be stubborn town.


Again this is really frustratin because I feel like I've been having to defend myself from completely dishonest attacks and It's not easy for me to read people this way.

If you're town, make a bigger effort to work with me. There is no way I see my partner dying yesterday and just space out. Sure I was busy but I checked on a little bit and would've got some words in if my partner was dying.

for reference, here's a game that just finished where Not_Mafia voted all 3 members of the mafia on day 1: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85197

So listen to him about donkihott tomorrow.

This is super hypocritical. Don't use Notmafia to back up your reads if you won't back up all of his main reads. Notmafia says I am town but you say no because you disagree but when he says someone you scumread is scum, you say we need to listen to him.

[Ninetales]

Inmteresting, I'm reading and I see you going on with similar taunting but it's all directed at your partner as distancing.

Who's the partner in this case?

This is almost confirmed town for not switching wagons and hammering catboi. Important for me to note this.

[Ninetales]

I don't feel as confident about catboi with him not being willing to vote Lone to save himself. Donki seems town to me though. While Lone is only a soft scumread, I think he may be the best option since I'm not confident about catboi anymore.

VOTE: LoneMarkhor

This is even more confirmed town.

Strongest town reads: Chumbo, Muh.
Medium town reads: Marcistar and NotMafia(they never moved over to catboi even when they had the chance), Catboi(I think Lone was tmi'ing that catboi was town)
To be sorted: The rest.

[Ninetales]

Hearing your moans doesnt't touch me
VOTE: LoneMarkhor
Let the night begin

Im sure that Lone was already dead by this point so this looks really bad.

[Ninetales]

Since pickles is dead, the most reasonable vote here is just VOTE: Donki

[Ninetales]

If Donki is wrong, then something went totally wrong this game and I have to look into the burst of activity starting today.

[Not_Mafia]

This intent to hammer on donkihott

[catboi]

I'm not hammering donki, lol.

[Not_Mafia]

Why not?

[borkjerfkin]

muh316 was prodded.

[borkjerfkin]

eh pagetop