TENET - Game Over

[skitter30]

is bell next y/n?

No, I'd go into the inverse (a50, pooky) first

So why are you pushing me again?

Seriously. If the main reason as best as i can tell is that you think there's scum in me/bell, you dont follow through with bell after i flip town because ...

Like this doesnt even make any sense

[Dunnstral]

Bell, can you remind me what your inverse reads looked like?

[skitter30]

VOTE: Skitter30

It's time to do this. Bell and Skitter are never town-town here, Skitter's role is more suspect here.

Dunn

You gotta realize that doesnt make sense, right?

[Bell]

Because it's extremely difficult to understand a scum motivation for pushing at someone who is going to flip town by A) Pushing harder on an already dead slot who was going to die likely regardless of whether he pointed it out. B) Noticed this claim discrepancy as scum, meaning as scum he was very cognizant of how to read another player, by correctly identifying she misnamed her role, and then went to check to make sure and then pushed her with question after question patiently until she was check mated for miswriting her role the first time she claimed.

It's just a really, really, really good series of posts that I have difficulty believing scum ever make given the context. Behind it.

[skitter30]

Bell he's using the fact that he thinks there's one scum in me/you to vote me, but wont commit to going to you upon my townflip

Do you see the problem with that? It undermines his whole reason for voting me

[skitter30]

Because it's extremely difficult to understand a scum motivation for pushing at someone who is going to flip town by A) Pushing harder on an already dead slot who was going to die likely regardless of whether he pointed it out. B) Noticed this claim discrepancy as scum, meaning as scum he was very cognizant of how to read another player, by correctly identifying she misnamed her role, and then went to check to make sure and then pushed her with question after question patiently until she was check mated for miswriting her role the first time she claimed.

It's just a really, really, really good series of posts that I have difficulty believing scum ever make given the context. Behind it.

I dont follow why any of this is +town: if he sees she messed up her role as scum why would he *not* push her for that there, esp. if she was already under pressure

He wants the misflip, no? Checkmating her helps with that.

[skitter30]

Like are you arguing that recognizing the fact that she messed up her role name is unlikely to come from scum? Because the aftermath of that doesnt make sense as a reason to townread him to me

[Bell]

Bell, can you remind me what your inverse reads looked like?

RN:

Peta:
FB
Deacon-Dandilion.
MWB
A50-LLD
Spiffeh

I have barely read a single post of Pooky's. Consider it worthless.

A lot of my reads go out the window or change drastically on a Petapan scum flip or a Skitter scum flip.

[Bell]

Like are you arguing that recognizing the fact that she messed up her role name is unlikely to come from scum? Because the aftermath of that doesnt make sense as a reason to townread him to me

The aftermath matters. But town are wrong all the time, as was I. How he was wrong and how he approached Shellyc I find extremely townie.

[skitter30]

My point is that you're according him towncred for something that makes a lot of sense to do as scum

Like.i dont understand why you're townreading him for something that should be nai as best

And can we talk abt his whole reason for pushing me that doesnt actually seem like a real thought ...

[Bell]

It doesn't make sense for him to do that as scum. It's a ridiculously thoughtful approach.

[Dunnstral]

And Bell, where are you looking to vote today?

[skitter30]

by correctly identifying she misnamed her role, and then went to check to make sure and then pushed her with question after question patiently until she was check mated for miswriting her role the first time she claimed.

Like this is the part that doesnt make sense - if he is scum why does he *not* do this

[skitter30]

It doesn't make sense for him to do that as scum. It's a ridiculously thoughtful approach.

Y tho

And again, can we talk abt the fact that he doesnt seem to have a reason to push me here ????

And is ignoring me pointing that out ????

And wont commit to flipping the other side of his 'never tvt' dichotomy because that alienates you in the moment rn when he needs you to listen to him ????

Like hello there's significant issues with this ...

[skitter30]

Oh look we finally got the logo

[skitter30]

Dunn cant want to vote me for being what he thinks is the scummier role in a not tvt pair and then *not* want to flip the other half of the pair upon my townflip at the same time

The two thoughts dont make sense together

[Bell]

And Bell, where are you looking to vote today?

Skitter, Brian, Gyphx.
Is my pool.

Why won't you go after me if Skitter flips town?

[Dunnstral]

I'm scumreading a50 and pooky more, and there are a lot of people calling you town

I'm pretty sure Peta is flipping scum

[skitter30]

VOTE: Skitter30

It's time to do this. Bell and Skitter are never town-town here, Skitter's role is more suspect here.

Ok so we're saying this is a load of nonsense then?

[Bell]

Okay, I thought about this.

Thought about some other posts and I hope.
And hope and hope.

And hope.

You’re right dunstrall.

VOTE: skitter

Please be scum.

[Bell]

I must look very silly rn from cabd’s pov.

Well. It depends on the flips I guess.

[skitter30]

Bell, what do u do tomorrow? Do u at least agree with me that dunn actually has no reason for his push on me rn?

[skitter30]

* upon my townflip. Lets assume i'm talking abt that world

[skitter30]

Like i just want to make sure dunn's progression is very, very clear:

-> says me/bell cannot be tvt
-> refuses to give another reason for scumreading me outside of that
-> when i call him out on setting up a bell push upon my townflip, claims he wont push bell upon my townflip (thus invalidating his original reason for pushing me)

Utterly refuses to engage with me, gives bell a half-assed explanation that doesnt explain the contradiction, and refuses to acknowledge that there's a contradiction here

[Bell]

If both you and PETA flip town I go after LLD with a avengance.