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[DkKoba]

Yes we're voting you for president!

[Cook]

Also, yes, when a new person comes in, I revert a read to null. I feel like this is fairly-self-explanatory, but if not, I can explain.

sure. go ahead.

pedit: because one of them had to be scum and one of them had to be town and I was more confident in Koba.

why does one of them have to be scum?

why is anger scummy? why

isn't

anger scummy? this is a game. why get upset about it?

welcome to https://forum.mafiascum.net/

is it more likely that scum would be angry?

PEDIT: what bugspray just said

1. Replacement play slots differently, so I don't want to base my reads off of how someone else who is no longer playing is playing the slot. Separate the player from the role they play when a replacement happens until they start to engage.

2. Too off-the-cuff and not very orchestrated, which would indicate town-on-town, but then in that argument, neither one backed down despite anyone else posting anything that might confirm the other one as Town, thus leading me to believe one of them had to be scum who could no longer back down without risking a vote.

3. Thanks. Scum might be collected, but they might also be trying to propagate a fight and waste valuable scumhunting time.

[Jim Hawkins]

Okay. I just read through the whole thread.

Unvote

There is a lot of nonsense filler posting to sort through. Brb.

weird unvote off of a slot that doesn't even have any pressure
why not figure out a better vote and pivot then? nobody is going to think worse of you to keep yur rvs vote

Just from skimming through the thread this morning, I could tell we were out of the RVS. Even though the vote didn't have any pressure, I didn't want to leave a random vote on a player without having caught up.
That having been said, if tris hadn't replaced in for Eoosa, I was ready to vote Eoosa right now. Maybe I'm over thinking this, but if Eoosa was scum and starting to get bandwagoned...replacing out would actually be a good move to save the scum slot. I'm going to keep my eye on tris, but I also don't want to hold them accountable for Eoosa's erratic posting.

bugspray came in pretty aggressive, but I'm reading them as town atm. And like Eoosa, Andresvmb also had a lot of meaningless filler posts in the first few pages, but I'm not sure I have a read either way on them.

Town: DkKoba, Cook, Facebones, bugspray
Scum: tris/Esooa?
Null: Andresvmb, nopointinactingup, Prince Zuko, Polaris, Egix96, geraintm, RLotus

[DkKoba]

cool. jim is town.

[Cook]

Yes we're voting you for president!

COOK 2020 -

MAKE MAFIASCUM TOWNIE AGAIN

Pedit: text wall from Jim Hawkins. That's actually some solid logic.

Jim Hawkins read goes to a 3.5.

[Cook]

Yes we're voting you for president!

COOK 2020 -

MAKE MAFIASCUM TOWNIE AGAIN

Pedit: text wall from Jim Hawkins. That's actually some solid logic.

Jim Hawkins read goes to a 3.5.

[Cook]

double post, huh

[MiniMegabyte]

Vote Count 1.4

Cook (4):

Polaris, nopointinactingup, tris, DkKoba

E-3

Facebones (1):

RLotus

nopointinactingup (1):

Egix96


Not Voting (7): geraintm, Prince Zuko, Facebones, Jim Hawkins, Andresvmb, bugspray, Cook

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to eliminate

Day One Ends In: 8 days, 23 hours, 25 minutes

[Cook]

Can we take a quick out-of-game moment to appreciate how cute these baby animal pictures are?

[DkKoba]

Can we take a quick out-of-game moment to appreciate how cute these baby animal pictures are?

you can appreciate them from the graveyard thread

[bugspray]

cook can get yeeted but i'm interested why he's in jim's townreads when that's literally the only mention of cook in his entire iso

[bugspray]

VOTE: cook

[Jim Hawkins]

cook can get yeeted but i'm interested why he's in jim's townreads when that's literally the only mention of cook in his entire iso

Yeah, sorry. I just don't see the case against cook. Feel free to change my mind

[bugspray]

do you think the wagon is likely scumdriven?

[Facebones]

Spoiler:

My Reads

Scum

(-5, -4),

Scumlean

(-3 to 0), Null(-),

Townlean

(0 to 3),

Town

(4 to 5)

Andresvmb, Prince Zuko, Facebones,

DkKoba

,

Esooa

,

nopointinactingup

,

bugspray

, Jim Hawkins, geraintm,

Cook

, RLotus, Egix96, Polaris

Nullpoint right now: -0.5.

Spoiler: What I Mean By All Of This
• Those numbers are ones I'll be referencing when I'm talking about changing my reads.

The lower the number the scummier you are.

• The "nullpoint" is roughly where I gauge all my null reads at.


Post 263 and on

bump DkKoba from a 2 to a 1

due to anger behind the post.

why do u scumread esooa so much? I think she is null here so far, which is where my frustration lies.

I want to flip her is the short answer.

It's closer to a 3.5ish thing

so it's more on the low end of my reads but I still just want to not deal with her.

@cook

two things pop out for me.

why was esooa the scummy participant in the argument while koba was townie?

It was a read to try to get a policy elimination.

I'm not really sure why I did it either. I won't use reads to do that again, either in this game or in any future.

Also, yes, when a new person comes in, I revert a read to null. I feel like this is fairly-self-explanatory, but if not, I can explain.

pedit: because one of them had to be scum and one of them had to be town and I was more confident in Koba.

>The lower the number, the scummier
>Esooa is closer to 3.5
>DkKoba went from 2 to 1
>You were more confident in Koba being town

Can you explain this please? It seems a bit contradictory.

Also, Why try to policy elim Esooa when you think they're more towny than DkKoba? Just doesn't make sense to me.

okay ignoring the rest of that why would you want a policy elim this early into d1

This still requires an answer.

[geraintm]

cook can get yeeted but i'm interested why he's in jim's townreads when that's literally the only mention of cook in his entire iso

Yeah, sorry. I just don't see the case against cook. Feel free to change my mind

there is never a case day 1. to come up with an actual correct case on scum day 1 takes an exceptionally bad scum player.
all logic based wagons day 1 are bunkum, either powered by bad town or members of the mafia

[Facebones]

all logic based wagons day 1 are bunkum, either powered by bad town or members of the mafia

Do you think the wagon on Cook was powered by bad town or mafia?

[geraintm]

all logic based wagons day 1 are bunkum, either powered by bad town or members of the mafia

Do you think the wagon on Cook was powered by bad town or mafia?

I dont know. How am I meant to know that yet?

[Facebones]

I wasn't asking you for certainties, mate- was merely enquiring if you had a gut feel one way or the other

[Cook]

Spoiler:

My Reads

Scum

(-5, -4),

Scumlean

(-3 to 0), Null(-),

Townlean

(0 to 3),

Town

(4 to 5)

Andresvmb, Prince Zuko, Facebones,

DkKoba

,

Esooa

,

nopointinactingup

,

bugspray

, Jim Hawkins, geraintm,

Cook

, RLotus, Egix96, Polaris

Nullpoint right now: -0.5.

Spoiler: What I Mean By All Of This
• Those numbers are ones I'll be referencing when I'm talking about changing my reads.

The lower the number the scummier you are.

• The "nullpoint" is roughly where I gauge all my null reads at.


Post 263 and on

bump DkKoba from a 2 to a 1

due to anger behind the post.

why do u scumread esooa so much? I think she is null here so far, which is where my frustration lies.

I want to flip her is the short answer.

It's closer to a 3.5ish thing

so it's more on the low end of my reads but I still just want to not deal with her.

@cook

two things pop out for me.

why was esooa the scummy participant in the argument while koba was townie?

It was a read to try to get a policy elimination.

I'm not really sure why I did it either. I won't use reads to do that again, either in this game or in any future.

Also, yes, when a new person comes in, I revert a read to null. I feel like this is fairly-self-explanatory, but if not, I can explain.

pedit: because one of them had to be scum and one of them had to be town and I was more confident in Koba.

>The lower the number, the scummier
>Esooa is closer to 3.5
>DkKoba went from 2 to 1
>You were more confident in Koba being town

Can you explain this please? It seems a bit contradictory.

Also, Why try to policy elim Esooa when you think they're more towny than DkKoba? Just doesn't make sense to me.

okay ignoring the rest of that why would you want a policy elim this early into d1

This still requires an answer.

Supposed to say NEGATIVE three point five.

Also, I wanted a policy elim to shut one of them up so we could get back to scumhunting.

[Egix96]

why is anger scummy? why isn't anger scummy? this is a game. why get upset about it?

Sometimes people just get stressed from playing mafia games, you know? It depends on the individual whether them getting angered/tilted/etc is more indicative of scum or town.

Sometimes you have people who, as scum, fake being upset in an effort to make people give them more space (since in a real-life situation it would only be natural to avoid further provoking someone) but you sometimes do have someone getting genuinely frustrated. Even so, it's best to regard it as NAI in most cases.

Scum might be collected, but they might also be trying to propagate a fight and waste valuable scumhunting time.

Considering 173 this seems a bit rich coming from you.

Town: DkKoba, Cook, Facebones, bugspray
Scum: tris/Esooa?

What have you liked from Facebones? He's still null for me.

I will say that tris feels vaguely different from my last game with her (where she was scum) on a ~vibes~ level though.

[DkKoba]

cook can get yeeted but i'm interested why he's in jim's townreads when that's literally the only mention of cook in his entire iso

Yeah, sorry. I just don't see the case against cook. Feel free to change my mind

there is never a case day 1. to come up with an actual correct case on scum day 1 takes an exceptionally bad scum player.
all logic based wagons day 1 are bunkum, either powered by bad town or members of the mafia

That's false. I've caught scum d1 with logic.

[Cook]

Scum might be collected, but they might also be trying to propagate a fight and waste valuable scumhunting time.

Considering 173 this seems a bit rich coming from you.

Note how Esooa and Dk were already arguing beforehand, and I clearly marked that as a joke post following.

[geraintm]

I wasn't asking you for certainties, mate- was merely enquiring if you had a gut feel one way or the other

Nope, not gut feeling.

[DkKoba]

Scum might be collected, but they might also be trying to propagate a fight and waste valuable scumhunting time.

Considering 173 this seems a bit rich coming from you.

Note how Esooa and Dk were already arguing beforehand, and I clearly marked that as a joke post following.

What was the reason you wished the fight to play out?