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[Momrangal]

I wanna be vote #7

[Momrangal]

Ohhh a pagetop!

[quiet]

Why couldn't Nero cain be a viable wagon?
What makes Hayker or NM more viable?

NM is clearly viable, they went to E-1
Hayker is clearly viable, they went to E-5 or E-4 I believe.

We’re at E-7 with you included on Nero?

It was a genuine question. Maybe there are seven Nero votes floating around. If Nero is viable, then they’re viable, and I’m happy to sit here.

Plus am I expected to expect you to vote Nero? I thought you wanted some non meta reasons first.

[quiet]

Hmm being vote seven is a compelling reason I apologize for questioning your willingness to vote here.

[chkflip]

Gamma was right, there were two other Nero votes. We're at five rn if I counted correctly.

[Momrangal]

There’s enough time, but I’d like to see an argument that’s not based on meta before I move my vote. There’s nothing I can say about meta.

There are three separate meta arguments now, two of them from players with reasonable familiarity with Nero Cain.

That aside, a portion of my push is as much meta as it is seeing the potential mindset that scum-nero may be having here. Despite my defense of Nero, I expressed that the read there was null. I can understand how someone can assume me defending means I'm townreading that slot but like, there was the immediate motion to remain a on my good side in the hopes that I will probably keep defending him.

A quick ISO of Nero shows that his early game is ok but for a large amount of his posts shortly after, he doesn't take much of a stance on anything. It's all "things could go either way" and alot of fence sitting. Not only is that atypical of Nero-town but all that fence sitting could be used to look reasonably engaged, but in reality he is not

[Momrangal]

Is it 5?

[chkflip]

Yeah NorwEE and uhh someone else. Unless they moved their votes. We're due a vote count here soon I'm sure.

[Momrangal]

I see norwee, gamma, you, quiet

[Momrangal]

My hammer finger is twitching, don't play with meeeee

[chkflip]

.yeahnahcarryonbuckoIscrewedthepoochonthatone

[Luca Blight]

The Nero wagon seems Ok but I feel like I’d much rather elim in PlusJOYED/Hayker today.

[Luca Blight]

We should direct Not_Mafia’s night action, right? We don’t want him targeting someone who is likely Town.

I suggest eliminating either PlusJOYED/Hayker and letting Not_Mafia target the other.

[Mizzytastic]

awake (v.)

"cease to sleep, come out of sleep," a merger of two Middle English verbs: 1.

awaken

, from Old English

awæcnan

(earlier

onwæcnan

; strong, past tense

awoc

, past participle

awacen

) "to awake, arise, originate," from a

"on" + wacan

"to arise, become awake;" and 2.

awakien

, from Old English

awacian

(weak, past participle

awacode

) "to awaken, revive; arise; originate, spring from," from a

"on" + wacian

"to be awake, remain awake, watch." For the first element, see

a

(1); the second element in both is common Proto-Germanic, from PIE root

*weg-

"to be strong, be lively."

Both originally were intransitive only; the transitive sense "arouse from sleep" generally being expressed by Middle English

awecchen

(from Old English

aweccan

) until later Middle English. In Modern English, the tendency has been to restrict the strong past tense and past participle (

awoke, awoken

) to the original intransitive sense and the weak inflection

(awaked

) to the transitive, but this never has been complete. For distinctions of usage, see

wake

(v.); also compare

awaken

.

Official Votecount 1.16

Not_Mafia (5): Nero Cain, Norfolk Boy1, MiniMegabyte, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball

[E-6]

Hayker (5): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb, BBMolla, Bypasser Catcher, Titus

[E-6]

Nero Cain (4): NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip, quiet
PlusJOYED (1): Luca Blight
Titus (1): PlusJOYED
MiniMegabyte (1): Vaxkiller
NorwegianboyEE (1): Not_Mafia
Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

MiniMegabyte

has requested replacement.

[Bypasser Catcher]

vc asap, only just woke up so apologies for any errors

this is a scumclaim

[Binatog13]

vc asap, only just woke up so apologies for any errors

this is a scumclaim

Indeed, a scumclaim indeed.
v0t3: M1zzYT45T1C

[Luca Blight]

Hayker is basically a newbie (based on their meta and play style), and generally newbies look scummy as either alignment. I’m willing to give him a little more leeway than PlusJOYED, given the context.

This makes little sense comparing join dates as BC comments.

Join date is irrelevant. Compare their meta and get back to me.

[Bypasser Catcher]

my townreads are voting all over the place. Not a good sign.

[Bypasser Catcher]

My hammer finger is twitching, don't play with meeeee

Don't like this

[Luca Blight]

andres, even excluding me, can you agree with my townblock list? I wanna try approaching this game in a way that puts scum in a really shite situation of being PoE'd.

Gamma, yes. Binatog? I think so? They didn’t take me up on deep diving one player and just giving us their unfiltered thoughts, but the perspective seems Town. Luca? It depends. If Hayker flips Scum, definitely not.

They’re softly trying to move the wagon to plus without sticking their neck out too much.

I have them as Town but would reconsider with a Hayker Scum flip.

I've preferred pressure on PlusJOYED since 754, at which point Hayker wasn't even a wagon. Since then PlusJOYED has done literally nothing, so I don't get why you think my position on this is sketchy. I'm happy to elim either of these slots if Not_Mafia targets the other during the night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m with Gamma here. Nero’s response was very atypicalbof him, and seems to show an mindset of wanting to tell what he thinks we want to hear rather than sctual solving. And then back to lurk, this is Nero!scum i’m quite sure of it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This talk of "We can only get an Hayker/NM wagon is BS btw.
Has anyone of you ever heard about a flashwagon?

[NorwegianboyEE]

The Nero wagon seems Ok but I feel like I’d much rather elim in PlusJOYED/Hayker today.

Both slots that barely have any presence.
Why are they a better elimination than Nero Cain?

[Not_Mafia]

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[NorwegianboyEE]

Nero and Momrangal are also not alligned.
I would be impressed if this was theater.