One Night Stand [Game Over]

[Ydrasse]

DAY THREE

Ah, ah, ah. You're getting ideas again. Little traps to catch me, checking the doors twice before you open them and three times if they're locked. I thought for a while that it was guilt, but no... these issues you have, they took root deep.

It's hard to find the time to write these letters, you know, and worse to drop them off where I need to. And you don't even say thank you to me, somehow. When you try to find me, it's to hurt me, I just know it. You're mad, scared, and taking it all out on me.

I've done nothing wrong, dear, but a lover's spat or two isn't unheard of. And I love you despite this; you have to get your anger out somehow, don't you? Better me than that poor couple — I'm the only person who can handle you. It should be a comforting thing, that we found each other so easily in life. It could've taken decades. Years wasted on petty things, petty people, jobs that do nothing for the heart and sap it dry. Knowing that I'll be with you here and now, before anyone else can take too much from you...

You're why I get up in the mornings, my dear. Even this early, driving further away. It's like you want to throw your car into the sea, but I know it's for the sights. A perfect place for our first date.

I'll make sure to say thank you enough for the both of us.

VOTECOUNT 3.0

[9] Not Voting:

Albert B. Rampage, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Kanna, Menalque, Alisae, Hopkirk, Uncrowned, clidd

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-20 02:21:36).

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: ABR

[Morning Tweet]

i have a solid townblock of Kanna/Ashuka/you and would like to add MT to that

What had you so sure Ahsoka was town for the majority of D2, Hop?

I assume this is what also led you to lean Clidd v. Ahsoka being a 50/50 and therefore making Mena a better elim, since Pooky/Kanna/I didn't really see it as a toss-up

i know that you switched to thinking Ahsoka/Mena/Unc down the line, although you still wanted Mena/Uncrowned first and i just never really got why.

maybe it is just (Ahsoka, Mental, Uncrowned) that would make a lot of sense in explaining how they were playing it

I'm also curious what you meant by "how they were playing it" -- i remember Ahsoka/ABR/Uncrowned that were playing funny early D2, so I'm confused what you mean by Mena here

[Alisae]

The game is over.

Kill Mena.
If Mena flips scum this clears hopkirk, otherwise kill hopkirk. hopkirk should flip scum if mena flips town.

If Mena!scum, use both mis elims on ABR and Uncrowned then kill me in F3 as I'm the only other person who is likely to be Mena's partner as the others don't make sense.

If Hopkirk scum and Mena is town, then the last scum is 100% in ABR and Uncrowned and you have 1 mis elim to spare at that point the game is just over.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Mena

[Alisae]

Like if its not Uncrowned or ABR and Mena is scum then scum just deserves to win the game ig.

[Alisae]

ywall can do whatever ywall want tho.
like if you follow my instructions the game is over.
Maybe there's a chance if I suddenly become this super townie player but like I feel like you can't justify not killing me over literally anyone else in the playerlist considering how bad my D2 looks for me.

[Alisae]

like if Mena is actually scum and Uncrowned ABR are both town, then I don't see how I don't become the F3 elim tbh.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its v unlikely mena is scum and wanted to PL the most important scum role lol.

I'm assuming the scum know that FL is the recruiter because if they don't even have that piece of information I'm not sure this can be characterized as mafia game.

[Alisae]

mena busses

[Alisae]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=81719

[Alisae]

also inside the hood, he didn't suddenly become townie and was still quite literally still the scummiest person in the hood

[Alisae]

like he was even trying to gaslight MT its bad dude.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ABR and Hopkirk look worse tho.

They were actively trying to save Flava Flav.

Mena can barely be characterized as playing.

btw any1 find any crumbs of people trying to signal Flavor Leaf to recruit them?

[Alisae]

Like nothing Mena has down is more townie than any of these players:
Albert B. Rampage
PookyTheMagicalBear
Morning Tweet
Kanna
Alisae
Hopkirk
Uncrowned
clidd

and that list includes scum btw since obviously if mena is scum then thats the whole playerlist.

[Alisae]

ABR in hood was way more townier than Hopkirk and if its Hopkirk all we need to do is just flip Mena and if Mena is town then its Hopkirk.
If Mena is scum then Hopkirk is likely town.

They're never scum with each other, its always one or the other.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if we're assuming 2 scum left it might be better to just kill townies

[Alisae]

I think my elim order is game winning

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz scum dont get a nightkill to shoot in [Kanna-Me-Clidd] if they don't die and go down to 1 player if I'm reading FL's role correctly.

[Alisae]

now
keep in mind i'm town so if it gets to the point where {ABR, Uncrowned} both flip town and I'm stuck in F3.
I don't think I win the 1v1 with whoever 1v1s me as scum there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

We don't really want to hit scum too early and let the last scum start nightkilling imo.

[Alisae]

I think the other 2 scum roles can kill.
If this was a nightless game that was not advertised as nightless I would be very surprised cause for scum to not have a kill and not advertise that honestly that doesn't sound fun to play.

It would be difficult to get players base on premise.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well Flavor Leaf's role says the scum team gains a factional NK when they are reduced to 1 in number so I'm pretty sure it will be the same for the other scum roles too?

[Alisae]

Also if you kill town and a night kill does come out because ywall acted on the assumption that a kill doesn't exist unless we kill all of the scum then we get punished for making a bad decision.

pedit: We don't know the other roles. That was likely a backup measure for if the other 2 roles die before FL does.

[Alisae]

it would be quite shitty if your 2 players that could kill died d1 and d2 and the 3rd scum player was just left to not be able to kill and have go against the world..
no one would want to play that.