Newbie 2051: Iceland! - End!

[Enchant]

Found this sus to even insinuate it is somewhat serious a vote this early on with such little discussion, unless ofc this is to obtain a reaction and read responses.

Right, as I explained I said it was "partially serious" to avoid seeming scummy / too random.

I probably ask something nonsense, but really want.

Why you think placing votes suspicious? Do you really care how suspicious are you?

Of course explaining votes is good, but doing that and claiming you did that just to don't seem suspicious for that is really something strange.

Town supposed to push suspicious people, you know.

[esotericzoomer]

It seemed like a town play to me, what scum wants this kind of negative attention this early on

The only person he's gotten negative attention from is me.

[esotericzoomer]

yeah i am 100% suspicious of safebet after that

Why? Like what motivation do I have to do that as scum?

If anyone/your scum partner hammered at that point, it would definitely benefit the team mafia cause

(i)

if you are the mafia then you know

flow trap

is a town, so a miselimination would occur and,

(ii)

the day would over without discussing anything, the town would stay behind.
Can't find any town motivation from your E-1 vote.

Then you're not thinking hard enough

Still no town motivation behind your E-1 vote, flow trap gave literally 0 AI reactions to any of the pressure put on them.

[esotericzoomer]

So right now, for me, FoS is pointing at EZ and Spartan.

EZ for an unnatural response to my flow vote and Spartan for voting there when he did. Easy to slip by sandwiched between votes on a flash wagon.

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[esotericzoomer]

woah thats huge
my bad

[flow trap]

It seemed like a town play to me, what scum wants this kind of negative attention this early on

The only person he's gotten negative attention from is me.

I believe this is known as the hummingbird effect

[flow trap]

Still no town motivation behind your E-1 vote, flow trap gave literally 0 AI reactions to any of the pressure put on them.

Well, they thought I was a new player, so they should expect one

[esotericzoomer]

It seemed like a town play to me, what scum wants this kind of negative attention this early on

The only person he's gotten negative attention from is me.

I believe this is known as the hummingbird effect

It's really not, I just have a differing opinion on theory.

[esotericzoomer]

Still no town motivation behind your E-1 vote, flow trap gave literally 0 AI reactions to any of the pressure put on them.

Well, they thought I was a new player, so they should expect one

You were already on E-2 prior for a decent amount of time and gave literally nothing, he does not benefit by making such a forced reaction test.

[safebet222]

And you'd perfer to still bebtalking about the finer points of vanilla mafia?

[flow trap]

I believe you're focusing on the outcome and not their intended outcome

[esotericzoomer]

I believe you're focusing on the outcome and not their intended outcome

Their reaction test seems super fake, that's that.
Scum motivation - Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie.
Town motivation - uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[flow trap]

I mean "Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie." could also be town motivation

[esotericzoomer]

I mean "Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie." could also be town motivation

no

[flow trap]

I mean "Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie." could also be town motivation

no

Y?

[safebet222]

Hi my name is safebet. I am scum. Let's put someone at E-1 for 18 minutes. That seems like a great scum strat...

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Hard Pass, want to hear from them first

Your vote below has given me nothing to respond to. To elaborate, I don't even know why you are scum reading me and, hence, do not have a basis to say that you do not have a reasonable suspicion on me.

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

Starting a day off with a vote for one of my SRs

[flow trap]

Hard Pass, want to hear from them first

Your vote below has given me nothing to respond to. To elaborate, I don't even know why you are scum reading me and, hence, do not have a basis to say that you do not have a reasonable suspicion on me.

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

Starting a day off with a vote for one of my SRs

Ok, I think you're being Pseudo-helpful

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Sorry for the late, I had an exam, let me catch up.

No need to apologise. We are not entitled to your presence on this site.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Hard Pass, want to hear from them first

Your vote below has given me nothing to respond to. To elaborate, I don't even know why you are scum reading me and, hence, do not have a basis to say that you do not have a reasonable suspicion on me.

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

Starting a day off with a vote for one of my SRs

Ok, I think you're being Pseudo-helpful

Ok. That's what you think I am. So?

[esotericzoomer]

Hi my name is safebet. I am scum. Let's put someone at E-1 for 18 minutes. That seems like a great scum strat...

great town strat!

[flow trap]

I think that is a Scum tell; I belive you have 3 options
1. Refute that it is a scum tell
2. Refute that you were doing it
3. State something town you did

[flow trap]

EZ, would you agree that mafia doesn't want attention?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I think that is a Scum tell; I belive you have 3 options
1. Refute that it is a scum tell
2. Refute that you were doing it
3. State something town you did

1. I don't have to even refute it because you have not stated why it is a scum tell.
2. I don't have to refute that I was doing it because you have not demonstrated that I was doing it.
3. If I were to state something town I did, it would show that I was intentionally doing it to be town-read and make it completely useless.

[esotericzoomer]

EZ, would you agree that mafia doesn't want attention?

No not at all. Being the loudest voice in the room can help you control town or at the very least blend in.
Depends on how anxious the player is.

Players who intentionally fly under the radar are going to be noticed and come under fire.