Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Smoke and Mirrors]

so Raya pushed Vax probably the most, i feel dumb.

Raya and jjh are locktown from that vote. Infinity is still Infinity. He’d probably deathtunel me if it weren’t for Gamma.

Mom definitely shouldn’t be voting me after that last game since I am playing exactly like Luther and how I did in Necromancer.

So, if she’s the one making this vote it’s concerning.

We're not voting you we're voting catboi. Idk why we're on you in the VC

@mod?

@CB why are you voting me since I recall our reads being very similar? So I don’t get it?

[Infinity Zero]

I lean on it being Gamma/NM now. I scum read FL because I found a lot of evidence of him either wanting to or talking about utilizing quick hammers as scum.
With minimal evidence of him wanting to do it as town, when I should have found 3x as many instances of town him doing it.

But his role made him want to be on the wagon so I sorta get it?

This is why we’re dying tonight because Gamma doesn’t want us to reveal the most likely positive result we’re likely to get on him.

I’m only saying if game doesn’t end. I only think FL could be scum here if game doesn’t end after NM/Gamma flips. Can you unvote please? Auro will probably give his thought tomorrow. He can’t today, :/

Please someone - anyone unvote?

Thanks.

~M

Maybe don’t jump to fucking conclusions because it looks like the past 5 pages is you screaming about me being partnered with NM (after having reasoned D&D wouldn’t have positioned their buddy like they did with me btw), the reason I’m “floundering” is because I honestly don’t know how to not look tied to NM at this stage of the game. Investigate me, fuck it! At least then I won’t have to deal with you acting like it’s this obvious thing when it’s really not.
Also, if NM is scum, either after I’m cleared or after you vote me off D3 because

VMP died to frame me,

look into jjh and BEF, and any others who tried to pin me to NM, they should not be trusted imo.

Say what? Did you literally just accuse me of “dying to frame you”? Um like hello, I don’t actually die unless scum freaking tries to you know, actually KILL me and protectives don’t save me. Is this an actual scumclaim here? You’re defacto CONFIRMING that I will be tonight’s scum kill? Lolwut?

How ‘bout it @FL, do you think this might qualify for post of the year or what? Lmfaoooo

~Mars

Are you stupid? Now that you’ve put this massive target here do you think scum won’t try to frame me by killing you? You’re the one who is confirming that you’re the kill with this nonsense.

@Nancy

I fail to see a substantial difference between this post and the one I reacted to when I voted you, beyond the fact mine was directly at one person alone and yours was at a group.
-Protocol

[Titus]

some things change, Nancy hydraslipping every game stays the same. :>

My working theory is that NK was to possibly frame you but that would mean we have a smart scumteam.

I am thinking we have a smart scumteam that's repeating Vax's same moves from Booneytunes (the finished large, not the ongoing one).

[Smoke and Mirrors]

what reads of hers are bad?

i am wondering why you're so confident i'm town, as wel
pedit: to Nancy.

Because nothing you’ve said has pinged me and I have played with scum!you but not as Nancy.

[Titus]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 16

• Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 2 ( Catboi, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 1 ( Titus )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 8 ( Mistyx, Chara, Wellermanbob, Smoke and Mirrors, Red, Jjh927, Infinity Zero, Raya36 )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

Cool, insane people are votung us. Insane meaning specifically people with crazy reads. I’m looking forward to the explanation for this read.

OH HELL NO.

VOTE: Smoke and Mirrors
-Gamma Emerald. I take personal issue with this post, so I’m tagging with my username vs. my flavor tag.

VOTE: S and M

Totally missed that post.

[Chara]

VOTE: chara
Infinity doesn't have much faith in the Vax redflip and I feel like his sense on that sort of thing is good
-Protocol

What's the point in switching to Chara when there's 3 minutes left?

this does seem like a really weird thing to do that close to deadline. i'd assume Gamma knew at this point about plurality, too.

I totally forgot about plurality, so it's possible Gamma did too.

a lot of players did (so did i), but it was pointed out a few posts before Gamma made the vote. i think my point still stands even if he didn't know but i find it likely he did.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

some things change, Nancy hydraslipping every game stays the same. :>

My working theory is that NK was to possibly frame you but that would mean we have a smart scumteam.

I am thinking we have a smart scumteam that's repeating Vax's same moves from Booneytunes (the finished large, not the ongoing one).

I don’t understand how you’re scumreading either Raya or jjh after that flip?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 16

• Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 2 ( Catboi, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 1 ( Titus )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 8 ( Mistyx, Chara, Wellermanbob, Smoke and Mirrors, Red, Jjh927, Infinity Zero, Raya36 )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

Cool, insane people are votung us. Insane meaning specifically people with crazy reads. I’m looking forward to the explanation for this read.

OH HELL NO.

VOTE: Smoke and Mirrors
-Gamma Emerald. I take personal issue with this post, so I’m tagging with my username vs. my flavor tag.

VOTE: S and M

Totally missed that post.

Okay, just lost my townread on you.

Hmmm . . . If Mistyx is scum, 100% flip this.

[Titus]

what reads of hers are bad?

i am wondering why you're so confident i'm town, as wel
pedit: to Nancy.

Because nothing you’ve said has pinged me and I have played with scum!you but not as Nancy.

*i townread Chara*
*you say my reads are bad*
*you comment that you townread chara*

So come again?

[Infinity Zero]

Okay, just lost my townread on you.

Uh huh. Oh really.

-Protocol

[Smoke and Mirrors]

what reads of hers are bad?

i am wondering why you're so confident i'm town, as wel
pedit: to Nancy.

Because nothing you’ve said has pinged me and I have played with scum!you but not as Nancy.

*i townread Chara*
*you say my reads are bad*
*you comment that you townread chara*

So come again?

Your read on Chara is good. You’re reads on me, jjh and Raya are bad and you can fucking run me up but if you’re scum with Misty and I still think she could possibly be a Vax buddy, you’re probably following her. You can run me up all you like but it will fuck you.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I believe all the scum are in Vax, Infinity, Titus
Red if I am wrong on one or two of those depending on the number of scum

I townread everyone else with reasonable confidence

Probably more like Vax, Misyx, Titus.

[Titus]

some things change, Nancy hydraslipping every game stays the same. :>

My working theory is that NK was to possibly frame you but that would mean we have a smart scumteam.

I am thinking we have a smart scumteam that's repeating Vax's same moves from Booneytunes (the finished large, not the ongoing one).

I don’t understand how you’re scumreading either Raya or jjh after that flip?

In Booneytunes, Bell was early on scum!Vax who acted much the same way. The scumteam massively went after each other day 1. I don't have any individual as scum yet, but universes that shouldn't exist as scum together.

Booneytunes has one major drawback as a direct comparison. That was a large.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

what reads of hers are bad?

i am wondering why you're so confident i'm town, as wel
pedit: to Nancy.

Because nothing you’ve said has pinged me and I have played with scum!you but not as Nancy.

*i townread Chara*
*you say my reads are bad*
*you comment that you townread chara*

So come again?

Your read on Chara is good. You’re reads on me, jjh and Raya are bad and you can fucking run me up but if you’re scum with Misty and I still think she could possibly be a Vax buddy, you’re probably following her. You can run me up all you like but it will fuck you.

If you’re scum here, I promise you will suffer for this. Scum always pays for wrongly pushing me.

[Chara]

Titus, i understand why Gamma voted Nancy there, but i'm not sure why you did.

re: jjh, i don't have the Booneytoons context but i did wonder if jjh's vote was left on Vax from an early distancing attempt, and then he failed to get momentum on anyone else because he lacked the time. when he did confirm he thought Vax was scum, it was near deadline.
i don't know how likely it is, it'd mean a misplay by scum jjh if anything, not really a plot. straightforward thinking says they're not scum together.

[Infinity Zero]

Tbh I don’t even know why we’re fussing about whether I knew plurality is a thing because

all that’s really been said on it is “it’s weird”

. And either way, I tried to get people to switch off the Vax wagon for chara. Does my knowledge of plurality really affect the optics of that?
But in all seriousness, I saw the post about plurality, in the post preview window iirc. Why do I attempt to deliberately prevent a majority lim as scum there, tbh? In Among Us mafia I hard pressed two scum for their hammer sitting D1. There’s no way scum!me expects to prevent a maj lim D1 and get away with it.
-Protocol

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I'm not happy with the jj or twins wagon. I'd be willing to go back to cat but I don't feel as bad as I did before with this slot.

I'm not sure if this is still a viable wagon or not but I'm not liking Vax. I didn't like the Titus vote. Titus has felt town to me and it felt opportunistic as well. The unvoting for simply posting more is bad too. He next places his vote on Infinity, another slot I light townread and another opportunistic vote. Later he voted the twins as the 5th vote which is again opportunistic. He also gave no reasoning for this vote and seemingly hadn't been caught up. When he switches votes again later he says he doesn't even understand the twins wagon but he'd still be willing to go back to it? The it's Mistyx without any reasoning which again already had a wagon forming and opportunistic. He mentions how little time we have then proceeds with fluffy posts. Then joins the jj wagon, who I light townread, without any reasoning given again.

VOTE: Vax

I’m still not liking Mistyx but not opposed.

VOTE COUNT 1 . 12

• Vaxkiller
  ------------ 6 ( jjh927, Catboi, Raya36, unwnd, Infinity Zero, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 3 ( Chara, Titus, Wellermanbob )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 1 ( Mistyx )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 1 ( Vaxkiller )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 1 ( Smoke and Mirrors )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 1 ( Red )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  unwnd
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 0 ( No One )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-11 20:01:00)

Vax is at E -1.

And Mistyx and Vax have the worst votes.

Oh look here, I’m shadinf my “buddy”.

Someone with a functioning beain please explain to me how me and Vax are buddies.

[Titus]

@Chara, Nancy's post was repulsive.

Re: jjh That's possible and I think that might be what happened to Bell in the Booneytunes game.

[Chara]

Tbh I don’t even know why we’re fussing about whether I knew plurality is a thing because

all that’s really been said on it is “it’s weird”

. And either way, I tried to get people to switch off the Vax wagon for chara. Does my knowledge of plurality really affect the optics of that?
But in all seriousness, I saw the post about plurality, in the post preview window iirc. Why do I attempt to deliberately prevent a majority lim as scum there, tbh? In Among Us mafia I hard pressed two scum for their hammer sitting D1. There’s no way scum!me expects to prevent a maj lim D1 and get away with it.
-Protocol

i don't know if this is directed at me, but i'm not fussing about plurality. my point remains largely the same whether you knew or not.

[Titus]

Someone with a functioning beain please explain to me how me and Vax are buddies.

This type of toxicity is why I am voting Nancy.

[Infinity Zero]

Yeah my vote’s not moving. I gave a window of opportunity and Nancy opted to sprint into the wall right next to it. When I tried to confer with her about my misgivings she ignored me in favor of getting into shut fights with others. Revoking townreads because someone suspects you is not okay, and she’s continuing to make arguments I don’t believe town!her ever makes.
-Protocol

[Infinity Zero]

Tbh I don’t even know why we’re fussing about whether I knew plurality is a thing because

all that’s really been said on it is “it’s weird”

. And either way, I tried to get people to switch off the Vax wagon for chara. Does my knowledge of plurality really affect the optics of that?
But in all seriousness, I saw the post about plurality, in the post preview window iirc. Why do I attempt to deliberately prevent a majority lim as scum there, tbh? In Among Us mafia I hard pressed two scum for their hammer sitting D1. There’s no way scum!me expects to prevent a maj lim D1 and get away with it.
-Protocol

i don't know if this is directed at me, but i'm not fussing about plurality. my point remains largely the same whether you knew or not.

Okay. What is your point?
-Protocol

[Chara]

@Chara, Nancy's post was repulsive.

Re: jjh That's possible and I think that might be what happened to Bell in the Booneytunes game.

then why are you voting her for it? that doesn't make her scum. it means she said something you didn't like.

Gamma was upset by the post because Nancy called the players voting her insane. she clarified within that post that she meant "no one should be voting me here, that's crazy", but it definitely could come off as insulting if read another way.

i think it was a simple mistake on Nancy's part. maybe she should be more careful, yes, especially considering the argument Gamma is referencing from Cards.
but i don't... really think it's worth an "out of game vote", whatever that is.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Titus, i understand why Gamma voted Nancy there, but i'm not sure why you did.

re: jjh, i don't have the Booneytoons context but i did wonder if jjh's vote was left on Vax from an early distancing attempt, and then he failed to get momentum on anyone else because he lacked the time. when he did confirm he thought Vax was scum, it was near deadline.
i don't know how likely it is, it'd mean a misplay by scum jjh if anything, not really a plot. straightforward thinking says they're not scum together.

Seriously? He was first on D & D scumwagon in CoD?

I don’t know why Gamma is scumreading me but but Titus’ vote on me looks really suspicious.

VOTE: Titus

In case I somehow get miselimed, I think it’s probably Vax/Mistyx/Titus.

Misty looks slightly better today but I couldn’t find those 5 recent scumgames she referenced in her first post.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Yeah my vote’s not moving. I gave a window of opportunity and Nancy opted to sprint into the wall right next to it. When I tried to confer with her about my misgivings she ignored me in favor of getting into shut fights with others. Revoking townreads because someone suspects you is not okay, and she’s continuing to make arguments I don’t believe town!her ever makes.
-Protocol

Whatever but if you guys get wagoned after our flip, don’t say I didn’t warn you.