Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 17

• Mistyx
  --------------- 1 ( Infinity Zero )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 1 ( Jjh927 )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 1 ( Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 1 ( Titus )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 0 ( No One )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 7 ( Chara, Wellermanbob, Red, Raya36, Catboi, Mistyx, Smoke and Mirrors )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

[catboi]

VOTE: Chara

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Titus
Chara
Wellermanbob
Catboi
Raya36
Smoke and Mirrors
Red
Jjh927
Infinity Zero
Twins Akari and Mara

okay let's say my entire PoE is wrong

Titus
Chara
Wellermanbob
Catboi
Jjh927
Twins Akari and Mara

this is what's left

i still feel very strongly about catboi/twins/jjh town so if we remove those it's titus/bob/chara as options

i guess it could be bob/chara but i'm not sure bob comes into today trying to hardclear chara like that

Titus and bob are town.

so like

if you think that, and i stick with my catboi/twins/jjh clears

from your perspective that leaves chara/raya/red/infinity

my PoE was that but with you in place of chara

who am i wrong on

?????

Vax has already been flipped and it looks like Red has a guilty on Chara, so that would only leave one scum left. If it’s really not you, then I have to look at the VC again. Infinity in addition to being super obvtown here is never scum with Chara. I think interactions with Vax spew both jjh and Raya town, so maybe one of your clears?

I still think it’s you but if not, one scum probably bussed.

Vax’s ISO probably left clues.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Do you think raya kills unwnd when she's his strongest TR? I feel like that's not a very wine-susceptible argument since people focus more on the SRs of the dead player and not the TRs

-Inf

oh is that a thing

possible? wouldn't say it's super likely so you do have a point

This is why if it’s not you your PoE is very likely wrong.

[Mistyx]

?????

Vax has already been flipped and it looks like Red has a guilty on Chara, so that would only leave one scum left. If it’s really not you, then I have to look at the VC again. Infinity in addition to being super obvtown here is never scum with Chara. I think interactions with Vax spew both jjh and Raya town, so maybe one of your clears?

I still think it’s you but if not, one scum probably bussed.

Vax’s ISO probably left clues.

i mean i don't think "you're scum because your poe is bad, and your poe is bad because you're the last scum" is really something i can argue against

[Firebringer]

Backup mod here posting to say I will be doing vote counts. Mod postings from this game going forward. If you have an action/concern. You should pm me and alisae to have it resolved. Thanks

[Smoke and Mirrors]

@Chara, Nancy's post was repulsive.

Re: jjh That's possible and I think that might be what happened to Bell in the Booneytunes game.

Someone with a functioning beain please explain to me how me and Vax are buddies.

This type of toxicity is why I am voting Nancy.

Still really really hate 944 but 942 doesn’t sound like they’re aligned. Plus it would probably make me physically ill if scum!Titus made these posts.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Jjh is completely scum totally misrepping my day 1.

I spent all of day one vetoing bad executions. We got a good one, magine that.

That your taking credit for this is insane

Give examples. As I understand it you mostly sheeped where you felt like it; I didn't see you dismantling any wagons

Chara wagon

you sighed at a vote on me, but that's all i could find in your ISO. did you comment on the wagon on me that apparently happened that i should... probably go read?

I said you were town from go.

Titus again doesn’t sound like a Chara buddy.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

What does your VCA say about the fact it's plurality

Nothing. It doesn't need to.

Plurality definitely does affect VC reads because scum could easily hard distance early in the day and as long as they can make a reasonably logical progression in hopping on a different wagon, they have no fear of an accidental bus, like they would with a majority flip.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

If Vax acts the same way, his wagon makeup is the same. That means an early busser who did next to nothing like Bell.

I still think you’re wrong but a link to whatever game you’re referring to would be really helpful.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

*shrug*

Same thing just happened in Open 802. Caught scum, people said I was wrong. Said scum won.

It's probably just jjh and the twins.

After I flip town, jjh will go after gamma.
The twins will lurk.

I seriously doubt scum!Titus would make this post.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I don't get why any sane person would be scumreading me based on circumstances in another game that I wasn't in

To spell it out, it reads like scum clutching at whatever reason they can find to scumread me for voteparking scum for the whole of day 1

Titus isn’t making the votes for the reasons she usually does as town. If she were, based off of VCA, town!her would be obvtowning you, Raya and probably me for what she just said about Misty.

Absolutely agree. I think this justification is being made from a place of necessity.

Thing is, there's little to gain from having any more argument because this game is plurality and will end at deadline

In last year’s TM, town!Titus wrongly suspected me for townread the slot that she correctly identified as scum based on VCA, so based off of VCA - something town!Titus swears by, her scumreads are gross and she damn well knew I wasn’t disagreeing with her Chara read when she voted me. She knows as long as I’m alive I’m going to hard veto any wagon on you or Raya, that’s why she’s pushing me so hard.

My vote's not even on you anymore.

I swear by my VCA that jjh is scum btw

Will you stop doing VCA if you're wrong or does this vow mean nothing?

jjh is very obviously town but I’ve seen town!Titus be this deathtunelled on town before.

[Infinity Zero]

Why is jjh obvtown?

-Inf

[Chara]

my ability is Intimidate, in a battle i decrease the opponent's attack by 1.
i have one move, Iron Head, it has a 30% chance of skipping my opponent's attack. so basically, it has the flinch effect.

i don't have much time for mafia tonight, but i'll be here tomorrow.

VOTE: Red

[catboi]

vax posts towards jjh felt like "why am i being wagoned over this very scummy townie"

Basically what misty said in this post + voteparking on vax pretty much all day

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: chara

[Chara]

bob Infinity and Nancy are town.
Raya, jjh, and the Twins are probably town based on lesser hunting mechanics colloquially known as "not intuition".

leaves Misty, Titus, kitty, and Red, and i think the last resolves itself mechanically, but i'll go over it better when i have time.

[Raya36]

VOTE: Chara

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Why is jjh obvtown?

-Inf

I liked his VCA post. Idk anymore but I’m not getting scum vibes from him. I thinks the twins are town. I also think both jjh and the twins could have become wagons.

Do you have any idea which game Titus referenced?

It’s hard to follow her trajectory without having any idea wrt the context.

[Infinity Zero]

No I wasn't in that game

-Inf

[Smoke and Mirrors]

cha.ra \ˈker-ə\ noun culpable of or responsible for a specified wrongdoing . "it was found guilty of owning a weapon of mass destruction" the deliberate killing of a large group of people plural noun: genocide "it was a near mass extinction event" cͮ̓ͣl͑̇ͮ͋̅̒aǐͮͯ̉̽́mͮ̓͌̄ͪ͐ y͛ͧͬ̓̆̅͋ö̈̆ür̄̌ͯ̅̅̊ rͬͫͪ̊͂̆ol̓̽ͧ̇̆̎̑e̒̆̇ͤͦ, ͗C͛̏ͫͪhͤả̎̔ra͑͐͐̚

[Smoke and Mirrors]

my ability is Intimidate, in a battle i decrease the opponent's attack by 1.
i have one move, Iron Head, it has a 30% chance of skipping my opponent's attack. so basically, it has the flinch effect.

i don't have much time for mafia tonight, but i'll be here tomorrow.

VOTE: Red

How does this relate to 1079?

[Raya36]

If Red did have a guilty on Chara wouldn't it make sense for Chara to claim something very different than what Red suggested? Intimidate and Iron Head aren't exactly what I'd call weapons of mass destruction.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

If Red did have a guilty on Chara wouldn't it make sense for Chara to claim something very different than what Red suggested? Intimidate and Iron Head aren't exactly what I'd call weapons of mass destruction.

Yeah, probably right.

VOTE: Chara

[Raya36]

Plus it makes no sense for scum!Red to claim a guilty. Once we miselim Chara their best chances would be a narrative about it being a false guilty. But I don't think scum would be so set on that particular miselim to try to pull this off.