Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]


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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:26 pm

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In post 1348, jjh927 wrote:Sure but if they're not obvious scum then you need to talk hard details
They’re take on the game is terrible and they’re not Titus who actually has had really bad takes as town.


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=21512


So it’s possible it’s Titus but I don’t think so. I definitely hope not because that would seriously mess with my head.
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:26 pm

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Just so you all know when there's more than 2 nested quotes im not reading a post
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:58 pm

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Misty doesn't have that bad a take on the game
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:58 pm

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As a bonus, scum!Misty here would benefit a lot more from fitting in with the commonplace worldview
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:11 pm

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VOTE: chara
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:19 am

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On further reflection, Misty considering the disaster scenario where both Chara and Red are town is very town of her. Input!
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:23 am

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In post 1344, Infinity Zero wrote:How much has Pooky posted so far? @S&M
I don’t think it matters much since you’re already obvtown but he’s feeling a bit invisible like in Betrayal
Though in that game I just legit forgot who the non-skitter person was, here I can’t tell if Pooky is posting at all
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:36 am

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In post 1310, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1286, Raya36 wrote:Does scum!Mistyx clear me when their PoE is already small?
Scum will push whomever they can. If they see that their attempts to push one slot are falling on deaf ears, why not try to look good clearing them?
Yeah this is true. Just feels like scum!Mistyx would keep their options a little more open and try to blend in a little better. I'm not fully confident that Mistyx is Chara's partner
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:38 am

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In post 1315, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1294, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1288, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1238, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1231, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1207, Mistyx wrote:if red/chara t/t i dislike everyone who immediately voted chara after they claimed

which is inf/raya/s+m

i think inf looks bad for their reaction to the claim if red is town at all actually

i want to talk about / a bit - raya, s+m, can you explain why that logic doesn't apply to scum!chara as well? and wouldn't it be more likely that town!chara told the truth about their claim if they knew the red check wasn't real?
How tf could Red/Chara be tvt here? Red is claiming a guilty on them? Otoh, saying that about me/Titus would actually make sense. Nothing you’re saying here is making an iota of sense.

You have 2 players - one of whom claimed an actual guilty on the other. In what world are you possibly reading that as tvt? *Head explodes*
Chara/Misty team?
It definitely looks like it to me and explains the Red guilty and why everyone else seems town. Town!Mistyx usually has reads that are grounded in logic and make sense. Her posts don’t appear to be coming from a townie mindset. She’s shading you, Gamma for reasons that make absolutely no sense to me.
It just feels too obvious. Scum aren't this obvious..
Should I link you to CoD game where that was indeed the case with D & D?
Sure, I can skim it to see
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:59 am

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I haven't played a pokemon game through since the original game boy ones, which one should I play
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:00 am

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In post 1359, catboi wrote:I haven't played a pokemon game through since the original game boy ones, which one should I play
depends on what you're looking for
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:00 am

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VOTE: chara
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:03 am

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In post 1360, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1359, catboi wrote:I haven't played a pokemon game through since the original game boy ones, which one should I play
depends on what you're looking for
generally emerald and platinum are considered to be some of the strongest in terms of gameplay
x and y are good if you want something easy
black/white and the sequels are good if you want to play something with a strong story
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:09 am

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People play these things for story?
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:12 am

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In post 1363, catboi wrote:People play these things for story?
im a mystery dungeon main so
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:24 am

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Nothing that mistyx is doing is making me SR her, but I don't get why as town she is only putting in effort when 1 scum is down and another is guiltied. If she's scum she really believes that she's caught for the wrong reasons, which I'd agree with.

Mistyx, idk if it's helpful for you for me to answer this, but I think there's a reasonable chance you're wrong on jjh or twins. Like yeah, there are things that are kinda townspewy that vax said about them but it's not really enough to clear them imo. Especially compared to someone like S&M, who I can't really articulate my read on but who I think is bleeding town. The way she's approaching this read on you, I can't see a world where she doesn't believe it, and earlier in the game she was putting in a lot of effort to try and sort bob despite really not getting his playstyle, which felt super towny to me and gamma. I'm not sure who the last scum is, but yeah I don't think it's S&M or red (assuming chara is scum) cause it's unlikely that he bussed his only partner. You don't even have to respond to this if you don't find it helpful, but those are my thoughts on why you're PoE wasn't the best from my perspective and maybe from others'.

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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:28 am

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In post 1365, Infinity Zero wrote:Nothing that mistyx is doing is making me SR her, but I don't get why as town she is only putting in effort when 1 scum is down and another is guiltied. If she's scum she really believes that she's caught for the wrong reasons, which I'd agree with.

Mistyx, idk if it's helpful for you for me to answer this, but I think there's a reasonable chance you're wrong on jjh or twins. Like yeah, there are things that are kinda townspewy that vax said about them but it's not really enough to clear them imo. Especially compared to someone like S&M, who I can't really articulate my read on but who I think is bleeding town. The way she's approaching this read on you, I can't see a world where she doesn't believe it, and earlier in the game she was putting in a lot of effort to try and sort bob despite really not getting his playstyle, which felt super towny to me and gamma. I'm not sure who the last scum is, but yeah I don't think it's S&M or red (assuming chara is scum) cause it's unlikely that he bussed his only partner. You don't even have to respond to this if you don't find it helpful, but those are my thoughts on why you're PoE wasn't the best from my perspective and maybe from others'.

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this is actually pretty helpful thank you
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:30 am

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i'm in a position where everyone seems to agree that the game only makes sense if i'm scum

and i'm not so

this game doesn't make sense
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:30 am

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It's not that your PoE had specific townreads that were wrong, it's more that I think it needed to go through some iteration, i.e. move S&M and raya up to TRs, then re-evaluate because you have too many TRs. And it's not scummy that you didn't do that necessarily, since you explained your reasoning, but it was why I disagreed with it.

Also, I know you're going to say that you're worried about losing since you think red/chara could be T/T, which is fine, I just think that in general it's +scum to have a lot of WIM in this particular gamestate and not earlier.

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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:30 am

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i do think if i am misclearing it's not on jjh or twins, i would say it's on catboi or titus

maybe bob but idk
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:36 am

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It's on Titus, Misty
You're wrong on Titus
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:36 am

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In post 1370, jjh927 wrote:It's on Titus, Misty
You're wrong on Titus
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:38 am

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Anyway, I think the whole Chara-Red thing is pretty cool and all, but also we're probably gonna hear more about the guilty by the end of the day phase
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:39 am

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i do think that is actually plausible

ughhhhh my brain hurts
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:41 am

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Scum!Titus has a way more distant vibe than town!Titus now that I think about it
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