Newbie 2051: Iceland! - End!

[esotericzoomer]

i would like to ask for towncred

That's fair, it's pretty solid other than a couple of things I'll mention when I feel like it (mostly on salsa), and the fact that I, in my opinion, don't find mind melding to be towny

im just joshin lol

[flow trap]

I think it's safe to say Safe+Fredrick aren't partners, the whole wagon thing would be very weird if they were partners

it's fred and enchant

I know that's what you think, I was just thinking out loud

[esotericzoomer]

I think it's safe to say Safe+Fredrick aren't partners, the whole wagon thing would be very weird if they were partners

it's fred and enchant

I know that's what you think, I was just thinking out loud

me 2

[flow trap]

I have a question, is it just because they are the 2 most suspicious?

[esotericzoomer]

I have a question, is it just because they are the 2 most suspicious?

that but also the one interaction they had together seemed really offputting

[flow trap]

Personally, I find Enchanted's interactions er... benign

[flow trap]

Ok here is the thing I don't agree with

In post 44, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 38, Enchant wrote:
Yeeaaah.

So i'm not good at game, where main source of info is people yelling on each other.

Dude, you won Newbie 2046 by fooling the town perfectly! If you are not good, don't know who can be!!

Being supportive is always townie.

Being nice is generally a wolf tell from my experience; however, this was early in the game, so I would probably give this a neutral

[esotericzoomer]

Ok here is the thing I don't agree with

In post 44, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 38, Enchant wrote:
Yeeaaah.

So i'm not good at game, where main source of info is people yelling on each other.

Dude, you won Newbie 2046 by fooling the town perfectly! If you are not good, don't know who can be!!

Being supportive is always townie.

Being nice is generally a wolf tell from my experience; however, this was early in the game, so I would probably give this a neutral

Salsabil is a nulltown for me lol, and besides, these gripes you have with what I called out for her were barely anything more than neutral in the first place, at best getting a +0.5 in my measurement shit

[esotericzoomer]

I'm sorry if I'm being really prideful/pretentious here.
Just happy I'm done these couple of hours of work into analyzing the game.

[safebet222]

Just a note, I started this this morning and there has been a ton of activity. I read through it and it hasn't changed my reads much. Also, I've been a bit busy the last 36 hours and looks like the weekend will also be busy for me.

These are my current reads...

Enchant - I think both his wish to impose new "meta" inconjunction with voting flow trap and not genuinely interacting with him despite flow having the most activity by far is cause for concern. Put that together with his ingenuine attempts at endearing himself to others. He is a current scum read.

Salsabil - Although I think Salsabil could start using the Mafiascum wiki a bit more to learn some of the abbreviations and terminology (I still look at it all the time to decipher some of these people on this site), I think she has been a solid contributor to the game. Her lines of questioning seem genuine and she seems to have a healthy skepticism of certain play styles while keeping an open mind to possibilities and associations. Current town read.

Prism- Looks like he posts less but tries to make them all count. I can relate, I am trying something different this game but I'm not sure I really want to anymore. I tend toward this style myself. So far I like what (he, she,they??) have brought to the game. I especially like how they are trying to pull flow traps ear for being a clown. I fully realize that helpful SE can be scum also, but overall, town read for now.

floo - So far a little lurky but when he is around has brought up some good points, seems to be putting enough effort into the game. I would like to see more reads on folks not named Flow Trap or Esotericzoomer. Town lean.

Spartan - Gonna put Spartan in the group of players that are putting decent effort into trying to sort folks out and bounce ideas off others. I like that they announced their feeling that flow trap vs Salsa was S v. Tand then went about trying to sort flow. So far, leaning town.

Frederick - Besides seeing his response to my vote as genuine, he hasn't done squat. He's been aloof and cryptic. Fred, please contribute something more then this crap, I know you're capable. Null

EsotericZoomer - I just went over your iso and caught post 153... It is offensive... posting hate symbols should be an immediate policy elim. See https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/souther ... d=42419782 I am too angry about that to properly read him right now.

Flow Trap - Fake as hell. Zero reaction to being put on E-1, elusive, aloof, clownish at times. Anti-town at best, scum trying to flood the thread with fluff at worst. The scum pair table is a joke.

VOTE: flow trap

We might have gotten lucky with the first flash wagon.

[safebet222]

I plan on elaborating more on my vote, my intentions and what I have learned in the next 24 hours, but I need to cool off. I'm pretty livid and want to give EZ a chance to retract.

[fferyllt]

Image has been redacted. Please avoid using images that have been judged to be hate symbols on MS.

Thanks!

[esotericzoomer]

jfc

[safebet222]

jfc

???

[fferyllt]

I'm assuming the image was used without an intent to offend. Let's please drop this topic until after the game ends.

[esotericzoomer]

https://youtu.be/IuRC3HEJ71M

[esotericzoomer]

I'm assuming the image was used without an intent to offend. Let's please drop this topic until after the game ends.

yes

[flow trap]

Flow Trap - Fake as hell. Zero reaction to being put on E-1, elusive, aloof, clownish at times. Anti-town at best, scum trying to flood the thread with fluff at worst. The scum pair table is a joke.

[esotericzoomer]

flow trap how do you read fredrick? because im perfectly willing to get him first

[esotericzoomer]

VOTE: Fredrick

[flow trap]

I think his reaction to my fake suspicion was plausible, but you do have a case

[Enchant]

VOTE: Fredrick

Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.

Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.

[Prism]

I'm not voting esoteric today.

[Prism]

I think Enchant came off a lot better reading realtime-you (Esoteric) seem to be reading in ISO. I wouldn't call him town but a lot of the filler was either relevant or pretty natural posting, ex. joking about lolhammers after expressing caution about them.

I'm really curious about this:

Yes. I said exactly that, not "They probably not maf both, but one of them surely there".

If I'm reading this right and the language barrier isn't fucking this up, Enchant pulls a random "one of them is scum" situation out of his ass, very much disapprove.
-0.5

I called a similar issue out with Spartan in 311 and 421. When asked why it's TvS, he gave more resaoning as to why Salsabil individually was town and flow individually was scum rather than they were diametrically opposed. I don't think you touch on this in your wall. Spartan isn't a bad alternative right now.

[Enchant]

English not my native language as well, so probably should explain this one.


Salsa asked, who i think mafia in Salsa+Zoomer, while i wondered where someone said like there's one for sure. This is answer, because i said "They probably not both mafia" and I DID NOT said "They probably not both mafia, but there's one mafia for sure".

I never said like i think there's 100% mafia in this pair, because i'm not sure in this.

I hope i explained it.