Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Chara]

Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.

i think vax's reaction to being wagoned over jjh is hardclearing for jjh

Look at Vax's reaction in Booneytunes and tell me that again.

@Nancy, I'm not scum. I am sorry you felt attacked.

i think it's evidence towards jjh being town. but it's not hardclearing, Vax seemed annoyed at being run up but there was no particular ire towards jjh that i thought couldn't have been faked.
better evidence for jjh town would be voteparking Vax all day and not doing anything to find an alternative.

[Chara]

Ugh, I don't want to read up.

Red claimed a guilty on Chara?

Red had his bullshit push on me.

Strongly in favor of a Red lim by play.

I know strategically never eliminate the guilter before the guilty though.

While I am like 99.9% sure jjh is scum, it should be asked though...any chance of S v S?

pretty much this. besides the SvS thing.

unrelated to this post, i lean town on Titus. i'm not seeing her trying to subtly control the game the way she

tends

to as scum, and i don't think the way she's handled her VCA this game counts as that, either.
coming from the perspective of someone who also suspected jjh first overnight after double-ISOing him with Vax, even though i now think he's more likely town.

i also think scum Titus does more to actively try and dismantle the earlier wagon on me so she can claim cred for it later, instead of simply calling me town while not actively doing any defending.

[Raya36]

Who do you think is scum then? You seem to have almost everyone as town

[Titus]

Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.

i think vax's reaction to being wagoned over jjh is hardclearing for jjh

Look at Vax's reaction in Booneytunes and tell me that again.

@Nancy, I'm not scum. I am sorry you felt attacked.

i think it's evidence towards jjh being town. but it's not hardclearing, Vax seemed annoyed at being run up but there was no particular ire towards jjh that i thought couldn't have been faked.
better evidence for jjh town would be voteparking Vax all day and not doing anything to find an alternative.

Vax never had any ire towards Bell in Booneytunes either.

[Chara]

Who do you think is scum then? You seem to have almost everyone as town

Red and kitty, possibly still Misty.

there is the possibility of being wrong on Titus as well, but i'm not sure how i'd quantify it against the possibility of being wrong on my other townreads. excepting the top three, but i'm actually not sure about bob anymore, though that is likely more to do with the passing of time than my initial thought being wrong.

[Chara]

Vax never had any ire towards Bell in Booneytunes either.

i don't think this is relevant to my point.

[Infinity Zero]

^ that brings back memories.

And I'm pretty sure we can't end the day early since it's plurality

-Inf

it's that owner's market blitz again lol
-Protocol

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Hi pooky

Pika Pi !!

Holy shit Pooky! I <3 you. you’re awesome.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.

i think vax's reaction to being wagoned over jjh is hardclearing for jjh

Look at Vax's reaction in Booneytunes and tell me that again.

@Nancy, I'm not scum. I am sorry you felt attacked.

I’m not efforting this much, I need actual links/quotes.

I accept your apology because I actually do believe it’s sincere. I actually do think you’re scum however but I really do appreciate this regardless. <3

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I probably should have used hurt tags rather than an outright vote on Nancy.

That definitely would have been smarter or even better, just rebuke me with neither. I know what a concept. right?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I probably should have used hurt tags rather than an outright vote on Nancy.

It’s ought to be mandatory for either Pooky or Noraa to be in every single game on this site. <3 <3 <3

[Red]

I know Chara to be evil based on its claim

No technicalities

No doubt

The abyss beckons

[Smoke and Mirrors]

im really really bored

can we fastforward this if Red isn't going to say anything and it's just going to make any other discussion pointless?

Hope it's not TvT, oh well if it is not like anything is going to happen other than the big ole pile on

I honestly don’t see how. Red claimed a hard and very specific guilty on Chara who hard claimed a role that makes zero sense with that guilty.

I actually think Vax/Chara/Titus

and if that’s wrong, probably

Vax/Chara/Mistyx

but there’s so many weird things pointing to Titus: the aesetic claim. Aesetic anything is usually not a town modifier. Vax’s strange read on her. Titus’ uberscummy jump on me. Vax/Chara/Titus shade on jjh, all 3 pushing the twins. In Boon uPick, scum!Titus voted Chk who was 3P scum for being “toxic” but in Gameshow, town!Titus never voted Moongrass for that, she merely rebuked her.

I hard tr jjh and he sounds extremely similar here to CoD. Do you agree with that @Gamma?

I still think Mistyx has high scum equity but only if Titus flips town which I no longer expect to happen. I don’t believe town!Titus ever opportunistically jumps on me the way she did and the fact that she’s making a point of mentioning that, considering that’s not what even upset me is very interesting. I think she had me in her pocket and now she’s scrambling to get me back in it. As if saying using HURT tags would have made that much a difference, in a plurality game right at daystart. Why would that make a huge difference? Either one looked extremely scummy in addition to her egregiously blowing it up.

What wouldn’t have? One - only one comment of her critiquing me for that, then dropping it. No vote, no hurt tags. . That would have looked townie to me and reasonable.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

what if we beg really really pathetically

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.

i think vax's reaction to being wagoned over jjh is hardclearing for jjh

Look at Vax's reaction in Booneytunes and tell me that again.

@Nancy, I'm not scum. I am sorry you felt attacked.

i think it's evidence towards jjh being town. but it's not hardclearing, Vax seemed annoyed at being run up but there was no particular ire towards jjh that i thought couldn't have been faked.
better evidence for jjh town would be voteparking Vax all day and not doing anything to find an alternative.

Why didn’t you make this post initially?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I know Chara to be evil based on its claim

No technicalities

No doubt

The abyss beckons

@Chara why does scum!Red make this post? It’s suicide if he’s scum.

I also don’t believe your 180 wrt your reaction to Red guilty as well as your sudden read change on jjh. And why would scum!Titus try to dismantle your wagon but town!Titus wouldn’t? Why wouldn’t she if she honestly believed you were town here?

I think you’re scum and your buddy Titus is washing her hands of what she sees as a very obvious sinking ship, kind’ve how she hammered Vax.

There is also the glaring omission of what town!Titus is NOT doing and the complete absence of what I’d expect her to be doing here, further convonces me I’m not wrong here.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 17

• Mistyx
  --------------- 1 ( Infinity Zero )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 1 ( Jjh927 )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 1 ( Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 1 ( Titus )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 0 ( No One )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 7 ( Chara, Wellermanbob, Red, Raya36, Catboi, Mistyx, Smoke and Mirrors )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

@mod can we get an updated VC please?

[Raya36]

Who do you think is scum then? You seem to have almost everyone as town

Red and kitty, possibly still Misty.

there is the possibility of being wrong on Titus as well, but i'm not sure how i'd quantify it against the possibility of being wrong on my other townreads. excepting the top three, but i'm actually not sure about bob anymore, though that is likely more to do with the passing of time than my initial thought being wrong.

Why catboi? Have you fully caught up?

[Raya36]

I know Chara to be evil based on its claim

No technicalities

No doubt

The abyss beckons

I think from this that maybe the weapon stuff was part of Red's gimmick and he just got a simple guilty

[jjh927]

Okay, I will relent on the voteparking
VOTE: Chara

[Smoke and Mirrors]

And Chara lived happily ever after... ...until one day, it felt its sins crawling down its back. It was horrifically murdered . [/color] VOTE: Chara

. Wow, what do you guys make of this?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

cha.ra \ˈker-ə\ noun culpable of or responsible for a specified wrongdoing . "it was found guilty of owning a weapon of mass destruction" the deliberate killing of a large group of people plural noun: genocide "it was a near mass extinction event" cͮ̓ͣl͑̇ͮ͋̅̒aǐͮͯ̉̽́mͮ̓͌̄ͪ͐ y͛ͧͬ̓̆̅͋ö̈̆ür̄̌ͯ̅̅̊ rͬͫͪ̊͂̆ol̓̽ͧ̇̆̎̑e̒̆̇ͤͦ, ͗C͛̏ͫͪhͤả̎̔ra͑͐͐̚

I know Chara to be evil based on its claim

No technicalities

No doubt

The abyss beckons

Looks like Red was reaction testing Chara and they failed. Apparently Red is some form of gunsmith, so had Chara claimed something like vig, there would likely have been no guilty.

[jjh927]

I think you're reading too much into it

[jjh927]

It is a hard guilty and Red doesn't want to make the specifics known
That's okay

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Perhaps. It was pretty obviously a hard guilty even before this.

Anyway, I think Titus saying that instead of voting me, she should have put it into HURT tags, reads scummy af to me, since what I was upset at her for was her making multiple posts shaming me for pretty much nothing but she makes it a point of saying that and Chara’s spending way too much effort in defending her, then once again waffles on her.