TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[Dunnstral]

He implied that super was reading this game at post 13, which implies that he's town since his teammate is reading into this game. This is easy to fake and isn't necessarily my read as a whole, I'm just pointing it out. I think Hopkirk saw that but nobody else referenced that as a reason to townread him

also how do you feel about Datisi reading this game? does that make the worst town equity go up?

No

[innocentvillager]

I do think the worst has been awkward and is deserving of votes, would vote for him and IV at this point. Not necessarily both together

VOTE: Dunnstral

Explain

hmm maybe part of it was me thinking the "not necessarily both together" was a bit awkward LOL

How so?

I'm saying that I don't really believe you're both scum, mainly from the way the worst came to your defense not feeling like partners

im more concerned with the fact that this "reflects a mindset" that you're trying to solve the game on literally like pg 8 and I don't know if that's a real town mindset

[innocentvillager]

like if we're both scummy in your eyes why do you even need to think about associations between us? you should probably be equally willing to vote us regardless

pedit: why is that different?

[innocentvillager]

I think we're friends now. This has been a magical moment, thank you.

Xtoxm you'd better believe I'm coming at you for rolling scum without me.

so we werent before? damn.

hmhm
i wonder if we're finally same team this time

@unwnd how do you feel about this entrance?

[Dunnstral]

It feels like you're making this up as you go along and tacking on whatever reason to scumread me

What exactly are you accusing me of doing in 201?

like if we're both scummy in your eyes why do you even need to think about associations between us? you should probably be equally willing to vote us regardless

pedit: why is that different?

I am equally willing to vote you both, isn't that what I said?
I didn't make a big deal out of the associative thing, I was just giving my thoughts.

And it's not different, note that I said that wasn't my read as a whole and is also easily fakeable

[Winter Flakes]

Dunnstral mega town off of this interaction.

[innocentvillager]

It feels like you're making this up as you go along and tacking on whatever reason to scumread me

i am, is that scummy?

[innocentvillager]

I am equally willing to vote you both, isn't that what I said?
I didn't make a big deal out of the associative thing, I was just giving my thoughts.

yeah you did say that

idk, i just feel like it's weird to even be trying to think about associatives this early on in a huge game, that was the accusation, probably more NAI than I thought

and i think i just misunderstood your wording. you said "there is a reason to have hercule as town" and i thought that was a reason you were townreading him, even if only slightly. If you think partner reading the thread is NAI for you (i disagree) then there's nothing there.

[innocentvillager]

Dunnstral mega town off of this interaction.

UNVOTE: Dunnstral

im willing to do this but can you explain how you got "megatown"?

[innocentvillager]

nvm the worst is prob town

[innocentvillager]

xtoxm town

[Dunnstral]

It feels like you're making this up as you go along and tacking on whatever reason to scumread me

i am, is that scummy?

I'm trying to wrap my head around the implications of this

[innocentvillager]

ythan town

From what I understand, IV likes being town. His best option if he's not town is to lead with nonsense and then assume someone town reads him by his gestures; this can include fluffy nonsense. The way he convinced himself that you were scummy did not sit right for me.

this might actually be a real thought because this is exactly what I tried to do to (while pocketing the worst) in Mini 2160! but i can't do that anymore, it only works once. im curious as to how you know me so well... my towngames you've seen me in were pretty different

pedit: what are you confused/thinking about?

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[Hopkirk]

can you expand on what you mean about the opening? my issue shouldn't be history dependent unless you have an in joke you're talking about

I rolled scum in JV and I's first game on site. The Worst replaced in and it came down to us three in ELo and I won. Since then they've had like a revenge thing where they want to roll scum together in a game against me. Good times.

As for why I townlean ABR at the moment: He voted Dannflor immediately after Dann voted Ythan, which is exactly what I would have done had I been active at that point in the game. That was my initial reaction.

The flaw with this is that ABR may not have been voting Dann for that exact reason, but I'm happy to assume it unless he says otherwise.

it feels off since we just finished a game where you didn't TR ABR (definitely not early?) that you have a hard(?) read early.

I feel like you'd be inclined to take a stance on that or at least
ask for examples or something.

i don't see why i do this before he responds tbh. i didn't get vibes from him

[Hopkirk]

just talking through some stuff with the other atm, we'll get to this eventually. at the moment we're discussing how hectic is clearly tearing up cardboard boxes in the background.

he sent this picture through:


then sent this and said to post it instead of the first one because it was much better


which basically showed he was lying about it being his cat doing the tearing as there's no claw marks in the boxes or anything

[Hopkirk]

let me know if you can't see the pictures, flopz has just started a toxic 1v1 with hectic because hectic can see the pictures but flopz can't

[Winter Flakes]

it feels off since we just finished a game where you didn't TR ABR (definitely not early?) that you have a hard(?) read early.

Not hard.

And that's implying that I'm approaching this game the same way I did that game and implying that ABR did the exact same thing that game, which he didn't.

[Winter Flakes]

My only hard TRs as of right now are Ythan and Dunn.

[Winter Flakes]

It's not about whether or not you got vibes off him?

It feels like you'd rather just not engage with me on the topic of him possibly being scum?

Given the style you showed last game and how you started this game, I expected at least some interaction there, or some questioning along the lines of "elaborate on this" but instead you throw a softball about ABR that doesn't make a lot of sense in the first place?

Weird.

[Hopkirk]

that's a lot of shade you're throwing at me. why would you expect me to comment on that? you having sus on someone wasn't noteworthy for me

[Winter Flakes]

Because you've commented on a bunch of stuff but when something actually spicy came up, you decided to ignore it entirely. I don't know you well but that doesn't seem your style from the impression I've gotten.

[Hopkirk]

your ABR read still doesn't gel with me either and i don't like your framing of it in 217, want to discuss it

[Winter Flakes]

The chances you just didn't find it worth talking about are decent, so I'm not opposed to just dropping it as a talking point for now.

If he flips red though you are getting tunneled.

[Winter Flakes]

How so?