Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I probably should have used hurt tags rather than an outright vote on Nancy.

Why tf even make this post?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Ugh, I don't want to read up.

Red claimed a guilty on Chara?

Red had his bullshit push on me.

Strongly in favor of a Red lim by play.

I know strategically never eliminate the guilter before the guilty though.

While I am like 99.9% sure jjh is scum, it should be asked though...any chance of S v S?

pretty much this. besides the SvS thing.

unrelated to this post, i lean town on Titus. i'm not seeing her trying to subtly control the game the way she

tends

to as scum, and i don't think the way she's handled her VCA this game counts as that, either.
coming from the perspective of someone who also suspected jjh first overnight after double-ISOing him with Vax, even though i now think he's more likely town.

i also think scum Titus does more to actively try and dismantle the earlier wagon on me so she can claim cred for it later, instead of simply calling me town while not actively doing any defending.

This reads like a buddy defence to me. Basically, when Chara flips scum, we’re presumably supposed to tr Titus for the exact opposite. Why? Because if according to Chara, scum!Titus attempts to get

non-existent

towncred for dismantling their wagon, then they ought to be presumably tr for not deathtunnelling them as scum because apparently town!Titus almost never tries to control the gamestate. That is something NAI for Titus but Chara is trying to wifom us into tr Titus after they’re flipped.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Who do you think is scum then? You seem to have almost everyone as town

Red and kitty, possibly still Misty.

there is the possibility of being wrong on Titus as well, but i'm not sure how i'd quantify it against the possibility of being wrong on my other townreads. excepting the top three, but i'm actually not sure about bob anymore, though that is likely more to do with the passing of time than my initial thought being wrong.

I’ve seen town!Titus attempt to dismantle wagons on slots she hard trs as well plenty of time, so #1451 also reveals a perspective slip on Titus as well.

Titus not taking too much of a stand other that shading Red but not trying to save Chara is also weird. If you try to wagon my hard tr, I don’t just shade you and do nothing about it.

Town!Titus either believes the Red guilty or she doesn’t. If she believes it, she doesn’t shade Red. If she doesn’t, then why isn’t she trying harder to save Chara?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Ugh, I don't want to read up.

Red claimed a guilty on Chara?

Red had his bullshit push on me.

Strongly in favor of a Red lim by play.

I know strategically never eliminate the guilter before the guilty though.

While I am like 99.9% sure jjh is scum, it should be asked though...any chance of S v S?

This sounds superhedgey.

[jjh927]

I think it's a reaction to a lost scumgame

[jjh927]

I'm happy taking out Chara here because of the guilty but I am under absolutely no circumstances going to let Titus out of my sights here

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Yeah, I think that the “any chance of SvS” thing speaks to a scum mindset. She is practically telegraphing how badly she wants to get you executed, rather then try to sort you. She’s basing her entire scumread on you on something Vax apparently did to his buddies in some games she never bothered linking. She hasn’t given one reason based on anything YOU’ve actually said/done. If VCA is her basis, then she should be hard tr you here.

[wellermanbob]

VOTE: Chara guess we doing this.

Also had a thought that Chara saying there was something off about the claim could also just be scum knowing its a fakeclaim from buddy tryna get wasy cred.

I'm really bad at mafia I guess.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE: Chara guess we doing this.

Also had a thought that Chara saying there was something off about the claim could also just be scum knowing its a fakeclaim from buddy tryna get wasy cred.

I'm really bad at mafia I guess.

I kind’ve doubt that. Chara wasn’t even on my scumdar prior to Red’s guilty but now that I think about it, there has been something tonally off about them. If you ISO them in either CoD or TBoNtB, you can see they make reads with pretty strong convictions where as here, many of their posts have been kind’ve hedgey or waffley. So, I doubt if you’re scum!Red you’d fake guilty the member of your team who has a very good chance to make it far in the game.

Besides, I’m pretty sure now it’s just Titus (maybe still Misty if Titus flips town) but everything in me is screaming that the game ends with Titus flip) and recent posts by both Titus/Chara plus associatives are making me think that Vax/Chara/Titus probably is the exact team.

[Chara]

i recently finished my collection of every Pokemon game, excluding the original Red and Blue and Gold/Silver/Crystal.

i would say they're all good. Platinum is one of the best all-around, along with HGSS, though the latter two were difficult to find and overpriced.

another thing to watch out for is the prevalence of fake cartridges on sites like ebay.

if you want good ones that are easier to find, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are both pretty easy to pick up.

if you prefer the 2D graphics like me, Black and White along with their sequels do have the best story, and the regions are really fun to play through. gen V is also the first time Bug was made a competitive type, so that's another reason they're geeat.
but the Gen V games are another set that are annoying to get one's hands on.

Emerald is worth playing if you have the hardware. it has the best post-game in the series, and Hoenn is just a fun region.

[Chara]

i generally prefer the original Hoenn games to the remakes, but the remakes have Mega Mawile, which makes it very hard to decide.

[Chara]

i generally prefer the original Hoenn games to the remakes, but the remakes have Mega Mawile, which makes it very hard to decide.

[wellermanbob]

I kind’ve doubt that

You wrote this then you completely agreed with my point

Do you need to read what I said again

[Mistyx]

i generally prefer the original Hoenn games to the remakes, but the remakes have Mega Mawile, which makes it very hard to decide.

yeah the main draw of the remakes to me was the soar mechanic (because if you couldn't guess latias and latios are some of my favorite pokemon) and mega evolutions, plus some of the new music

with that said i haven't actually played the originals

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I kind’ve doubt that

You wrote this then you completely agreed with my point

Do you need to read what I said again

Spoiler:

VOTE: Chara guess we doing this.

Also had a thought that Chara saying there was something off about the claim could also just be scum knowing its a fakeclaim from buddy tryna get wasy cred.

I'm really bad at mafia I guess.

I kind’ve doubt that. Chara wasn’t even on my scumdar prior to Red’s guilty but now that I think about it, there has been something tonally off about them. If you ISO them in either CoD or TBoNtB, you can see they make reads with pretty strong convictions where as here, many of their posts have been kind’ve hedgey or waffley. So, I doubt if you’re scum!Red you’d fake guilty the member of your team who has a very good chance to make it far in the game.

Besides, I’m pretty sure now it’s just Titus (maybe still Misty if Titus flips town) but everything in me is screaming that the game ends with Titus flip) and recent posts by both Titus/Chara plus associatives are making me think that Vax/Chara/Titus probably is the exact team.

What part are you referring to? I said I doubt that Red is scum here. *confused*

[wellermanbob]

Yes I'm saying the facts can be put together to make sense in a Chara scum world.

Like how they reacted to Vaxkiller fakeclaim.

[wellermanbob]

As in a generic "something seems off here" could be made as Oblivious, or as a scumbuddy who knows its a fake.

It makes some level of sense and I'll stop screaming at Red to claim

[Firebringer]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 20

• Chara
  ---------------- 9 ( Catboi, infinity zero, Raya36, Smoke and Mirrors, Twins Akari and Mara, Red, Misty, jjh927, wellermanbob )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 1 ( Titus )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 1 ( Chara )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No one )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No one )
  
  Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  11 Players still alive

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Yes I'm saying the facts can be put together to make sense in a Chara scum world.

Like how they reacted to Vaxkiller fakeclaim.

You don't see anything towny about them, but have they done anything scummy? What don't you like about the claim? ｢(ﾟﾍﾟ)

not seeing town behaviour is the same as seeing scum behaviour

.
i don't like how Vax hasn't claimed a move name, seeing as that should be in there. there's something else but i don't think it's a good idea to discuss.

To follow further: The twins are voting vax. Do you dislike their vote on him?

i don't know, i think it's pointless to worry about it without flips. i haven't liked any of the twins votes, though. if you're implying i shouldn't be happy with the Vax wagon because the twins are on it? Vax is still a slot i'm fine flipping today.

You’re referring to this post, I’m assuming?

They shade Vax yet vote the twins? and not seeing town behaviour/= seeing scum behaviour. That translates to NULL behaviour, which is what CB pointed out. Also strange hedge on Twins’ Vax vote.

[Mistyx]

can we get a unanimous wagon

[wellermanbob]

this post

No im referring to day 1/how I came into today sure Chara was town.

Its okay. We don't need to talk about this

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 20

• Chara
  ---------------- 9 ( Catboi, infinity zero, Raya36, Smoke and Mirrors, Twins Akari and Mara, Red, Misty, jjh927, wellermanbob )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 1 ( Titus )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 1 ( Chara )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No one )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No one )
  
  Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  11 Players still alive

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

Gee I wonder who Chara’s buddy is?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

can we get a unanimous wagon

Titus is still voting jjh instead of guiltied scum.

HURT: Titus

[Raya36]

Ugh, I don't want to read up.

Red claimed a guilty on Chara?

Red had his bullshit push on me.

Strongly in favor of a Red lim by play.

I know strategically never eliminate the guilter before the guilty though.

While I am like 99.9% sure jjh is scum, it should be asked though...any chance of S v S?

pretty much this. besides the SvS thing.

unrelated to this post, i lean town on Titus. i'm not seeing her trying to subtly control the game the way she

tends

to as scum, and i don't think the way she's handled her VCA this game counts as that, either.
coming from the perspective of someone who also suspected jjh first overnight after double-ISOing him with Vax, even though i now think he's more likely town.

i also think scum Titus does more to actively try and dismantle the earlier wagon on me so she can claim cred for it later, instead of simply calling me town while not actively doing any defending.

This reads like a buddy defence to me. Basically, when Chara flips scum, we’re presumably supposed to tr Titus for the exact opposite. Why? Because if according to Chara, scum!Titus attempts to get

non-existent

towncred for dismantling their wagon, then they ought to be presumably tr for not deathtunnelling them as scum because apparently town!Titus almost never tries to control the gamestate. That is something NAI for Titus but Chara is trying to wifom us into tr Titus after they’re flipped.

I can actually see this

[Nancy Drew 39]

Not to mention that 1169 is a very weird reaction to a player claiming a hard guilty on another but who is she voting? Not Chara, not Red but jjh. Instead of her saying I’m not completely trusting it because he’s wrong on me, she just completely dismisses it and shades him while also claiming that it’s proper to elim Chara before Red without even knowing the flip but she ignores it in favour of her clearly preferred elim, which is of course jjh who’s as obvtown af here.