TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[Hopkirk]

good reasons.

[innocentvillager]

Pipe down ABR I still rememmber Fake Peoples

i do too but what has he even done so far to warrant you saying that

[unwnd]

Pipe down ABR I still rememmber Fake Peoples

i do too but what has he even done so far to warrant you saying that

I enjoy talking that sass with ABR

If he's town he'll respond in a way that gets me to read him

[innocentvillager]

IV

You still have nervous energy

The best way I would further describe what seems to be wrong with you is that you believe solving to be a catch-all towntell, but it's like

Page 10? What necessity is there to solve on page 10. Changing your mind or seeming like 'oh man, I'm just so worried about everything!' does not make you town

If you are town, stop forcing yourself to do things thanks

bro what are you even talking about lol

This feels like a very awkward response to what I read as a very genuine towny reach out. Personally, that's not how I would react to something like unwnd's post and innocent villager's response here seems devoid of actually trying to understand unwnd or really dig deeper into the reasons people are sorting IV as scummy

I suppose there is something to be said for not taking the easy olive branch, but on the whole it feels more dismissive than anything else, which doesn't really feel like a town approach to the game in general but certainly not this sort of attempted engagement

why are you analyzing this reaction in isolation without at all commenting on the followup conversation we had? what did you think of that?

i genuinely think what unwnd said in that particular post was confusing and i was saying, albeit in a bit of a snippy way, that his accusation was not making sense

[innocentvillager]

I am not liking Hopkirk's non-game related busywork. It feels like game avoidance.

meh even though most of hopkirk's posts are not really game related he's still in the upper %'s of game related posts

I don't get good feelings from any of the posts because they are massively bloated.

I prefer terse, meaning-dense posts like #329.

I’m surprised you townread me then! Lol

[Hopkirk]

is the travesty too many on IV or not enough on your scumread (presumably Dann)

There's no way ABR genuinely thinks Dann was scum and I'm not sure why you believed it

agreed, i don't get it so i was 99% confident it was saying the IV wagon was bad. i'm giving him two options even if i know which one he's picking anyway to start a conversation because i much prefer that phrasing to 'so do you TR IV' which doesn't really go anywhere except him explaining a read he was presumably going to do eventually anyway. it's a pretty fun way pf phrasing questions, you should try it some time.

[Hopkirk]

Pipe down ABR I still rememmber Fake Peoples

i do too but what has he even done so far to warrant you saying that

I enjoy talking that sass with ABR

If he's town he'll respond in a way that gets me to read him

what's your record at reading him? if it's good and you get a TR result i could

sheep

take credit for that.

[innocentvillager]

from my experience ABR is pretty readable especially deeper into the game. Unwnd was in those games too so I’d imagine he feels similarly. im willing to just let that one stew

[unwnd]

So far on this account I have not been wrong on my read with ABR, both when he was town or scum

IV above post from you is pretty sensible, what do you think about your impending wagon?

[Dannflor]

Ftr, I am kind of feeling you as town now (yes, I am going to say it here instead of “head/PT”)

IV what was this primarily in reaction to?

Meaning what exactly from unwnd got you to this point?

[Hopkirk]

i was planning to leave ABR for a while as i scumread them early last game we played then began liking them more as the game went on and we started to mind meld at times (although i did start doubting that later in the game due to a big townblock)

[Dannflor]

I'm just gonna let the people who know ABR try to read him unless he does something that seems comprehensible to me

[Ythan]

Dgb idr if we've ever played a game together but it's a delight to be vibing with you.

We've played four games together I'm a dumbass

[DrippingGoofball]

I am outnumbered. I guess I'm just going to have to take things in my own hands and vig him.

I'm not really attempting to talk you down

Did you get the same sense of avoiding the actual game while in thread from anyone else while you were reading through?

Not to the same extent, no.

[Hopkirk]

and here we see DGB continuing to evade us

[Hopkirk]

was that important to post that it took you away from the stuff you were

presumably

busy putting together on me?

[DrippingGoofball]

and here we see DGB continuing to evade us

Who is "us?" Your scum team?

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Hopkirk

[Hopkirk]

I am outnumbered.

I guess I'm just going to have to take things in my own hands and vig him.

gee, i wonder who the 'we' that you previously acknowledged is referring to.

[Hopkirk]

and here we see DGB continuing to evade us

Who is "us?" Your scum team?

you think this is good shade? i've had shade thrown at me by

flopz

before.

[Cephrir]

i know i should probably wait until i catch up all the way and trim some of this a bit, but i'm not like in danger of contributing too much at the moment so suck it up

ok Datisi scumreads me like every game at this point lmaoooo

lame excuse

town: hercule, Dannflor, AGar

conflicted: the worst/Daddisi hydra

scum: VOTE: unwnd

Why is unwnd scum?

nvm i don't really scumread unwnd yet

but i will be watching u closely sir

i guess i want to understand what happened here, IV? this is just a very weird sequence of events to me

I do think the worst has been awkward and is deserving of votes, would vote for him and IV at this point. Not necessarily both together

VOTE: Dunnstral

choosing this moment right after being prodded by dunn to go after him didn't really resonate w me; also feels a bit like a chainsaw

I do think the worst has been awkward and is deserving of votes, would vote for him and IV at this point. Not necessarily both together

VOTE: Dunnstral

Explain

hmm maybe part of it was me thinking the "not necessarily both together" was a bit awkward LOL

i get having to go back and figure out what you were thinking at a given moment but it was like 2 posts ago? why are we "hmm maybe if we interpret the entrails this way" ing about an opinion that you literally just posted

can you expand on what you mean about the opening? my issue shouldn't be history dependent unless you have an in joke you're talking about

I rolled scum in JV and I's first game on site. The Worst replaced in and it came down to us three in ELo and I won. Since then they've had like a revenge thing where they want to roll scum together in a game against me. Good times.

As for why I townlean ABR at the moment: He voted Dannflor immediately after Dann voted Ythan, which is exactly what I would have done had I been active at that point in the game. That was my initial reaction.

The flaw with this is that ABR may not have been voting Dann for that exact reason, but I'm happy to assume it unless he says otherwise.

that's a really fast townlean for noticing something that would obviously stand out as weird to anybody regardless of their role pm color

It strikes me a bit odd that you ask about those two things but not the one where I'm practically hard accusing someone of having a scummy opening to the game?

+Partner Equity for Hopkirk and Almost50, everyone.

Not that I particularly think Hop is being scummy at the moment, but ye.

yes, let's start doing unflipped associatives on page 8

[Dannflor]

this just in from Jingle: A50 and ythan are both gut town reads although not particularly strong

doesn't think Winter is particularly towny despite having posted a lot and made some solid arguments

[Ythan]

Hey Jingle~

[Hopkirk]

how about we wagon theworst too

[Cephrir]

It feels like you're making this up as you go along and tacking on whatever reason to scumread me

i am, is that scummy?

y... yes?

Dunnstral mega town off of this interaction.

UNVOTE: Dunnstral

im willing to do this but can you explain how you got "megatown"?

after that whole exchange, someone else's opinion is the thing that gets you to unvote? what

ythan town

From what I understand, IV likes being town. His best option if he's not town is to lead with nonsense and then assume someone town reads him by his gestures; this can include fluffy nonsense. The way he convinced himself that you were scummy did not sit right for me.

this might actually be a real thought because this is exactly what I tried to do to (while pocketing the worst) in Mini 2160! but i can't do that anymore, it only works once. im curious as to how you know me so well... my towngames you've seen me in were pretty different

pedit: what are you confused/thinking about?

what on earth does the likelihood of this thought being real have to do with you happening to have done that in some other game

are you some sort of space alien i don't get these processes