Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[unwnd]

Actually I take back my thought on Lunar, that was the first impulsive read I've made that I disagreed with

What made you change your mind?

Not ready to call it yet, I think you'll show up town if you're town eventually

[Krazy]

Votecount 1.4

Chara(3)

~ RCEnigma(43), Firebringer(33), skitter30(54)

Gamma Emerald(2)

~ Dannflor(14), Morning Tweet(17)

Firebringer(2)

~ Hectic(26), Starcrossed(95), unwnd(60)

Morning Tweet(1)

~ Chara(80)

Dannflor(1)

~ catboi(41)


Not Voting (9): chkflip(0), Lunar Martian(4), Hopkirk(1), Xtoxm(0), Titus(4), Ydrasse(62), Venus Mars and Pluto(2), Gamma Emerald(5), Flavor Leaf(15)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-26 20:10:07)

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FLAVOR

[skitter30]

The ones about Pooky being scum kinda

I feel I just disagree, I legitimately believe that he is trying to be scummy as town

Insane I know but true, felt like you were pushing the wrong narrative against my own

i still think he's being scummy

[Ydrasse]

Babe i’m sorry i’m just lashing out after my rough break up

[Ydrasse]

i’ll even give you reads tomorrow..:..

[catboi]

I didn't think the game was that fluffy when Tweet started posting anyway. I did think unwnd stopping the anime derail was worthy of townpoints, I think in most instances there weebscum are going to continue fluffing and nonweebscum would lurk it out, commonality is scum would be okay with avoiding serious discussion

[unwnd]

The ones about Pooky being scum kinda

I feel I just disagree, I legitimately believe that he is trying to be scummy as town

Insane I know but true, felt like you were pushing the wrong narrative against my own

i still think he's being scummy

Any tryhard analysis about it? I can balance both

[Chara]

Oh we're talking about me YAY!@

I won't comment on what's actually AI for me and instead think about why Chara/skitts are under the impression of my play that they r

Oh on further evaluation i have a similar question as skitts for Chara -- why do you take me as the type to take to fluff enthusiastically, but more likely to do so as town? In the only game we have played (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=28527), i had an unusually heavy amount of mechanical and reads talk at the beginning.

my posts were like at least 5-6 lines long from the start and all game.. somehow

it was just a guess! you seemed like a fun sort of player who would be more likely to get into it than say... catboi.

[skitter30]

wait you don't even have scum meta on her and you're scumreading her for that
ok then

[Flavor Leaf]

Babe i’m sorry i’m just lashing out after my rough break up

i’ll even give you reads tomorrow..:..

I'm so weak to pocketing.

Skitter, I need your thoughts on Ydrasse.

[Starcrossed]

Firebringer,

Our Lord FL has blessed the wagon on Firescum with his holy wisdom

[Morning Tweet]

The only draft analysis I'm going to make is that Lunar Martian is probably town.

I agree that it's unlikely Hectic picks a newer player even for WIFOM -- that'd be risky for not lot of gain

i wanted to do mastina-style draft analysis (before the game, even if i had rolled scum i wanted to do this) but i just dont know how well Hectic knows most of you. let me try

Spoiler: Really bad draft analysis

I think it's already been said that Ydrasse/Hopkirk are decent bets if Hectic wants a good fren, and that's true.

I slightly lean he doesn't pick Gamma/Titus (?) because I've played/spectated games with Hectic where they were eliminated (gamma town Titus scum)

I could definitely see maybe picking the Venus hydra

Chkflip/Dann/Fire i think are all good players in their own rights although im less familiar with them. I know Dann is good at scum because he's been accused of deepwolfing in every game ive ever seen him in, Fire i think generally is a tricky read to make but i dont think ive seen him eliminated, chkflip i think is prolly experienced

Skitts/chara both good at scum and generally are players you would want on your team

Fuck I'm saying he could pick everyone LOL let's go about it a different way

I lean that he doesn't pick Lunar, and I think he probably doesn't pick Titus/Gamma/RCEnigma/unwnd. I actually think Starcrossed might be too obvious in a way but probably dont put much faith into that. Oh and also Xtoxm

Yeah so that sucked i think Hectic could pick just about anybody, but I don't think he has more than maybe one in Lunar/Titus/Gamma/RCEnigma/unwnd/Xtoxm if any at all due to mostly not being as familiar or not being as likely to obvtown, or in Lunar's case, being new. Obviously though he might pick in there by virtue of that, so ill give it an error of one

[Starcrossed]

Skitter, I need your thoughts on Ydrasse.

she's town dude

[skitter30]

loosely +town but not a strong read really. just like gutpings. wouldn't bet the game on it or anything
fl how u reading me btw?

[Chara]

i have no idea of Tweet's scum meta. maybe she is the type of nervous scum who takes refuge in a town largely fluffposting. but without that context, it's bothering me that skitter, moreso than thinking Tweet wasn't doing that, rather takes issue with the idea that there might be scum deliberately going for the easy towncred.

also sorry Fire, i didn't see your return. :>

pedit: ehhh. i really don't agree, with the notion that scum wouldn't care about making a strong entry into the game, or that prodding Tweet on a scum ping would be a bad idea.

irregardless of her scum meta i think that nearly all scum choose to join the fluff fest there
and that it's a bit townie for people who instead chose to try to move the game along

i'm not saying that proddign tweet is a bad idea inherently so much as i think that the reasoning for this push is quite questionable

are you under the impression i floated that reasoning expecting or wanting to get Tweet eliminated for it?

pedit: lmao skitter

[catboi]

The ones about Pooky being scum kinda

I feel I just disagree, I legitimately believe that he is trying to be scummy as town

Insane I know but true, felt like you were pushing the wrong narrative against my own

I feel like if he wanted to be scummy he'd be acting different, if anything him going gameface and throwing out early reads looked like attempting to be town. Where do you think he's trying to be scummy?

[Flavor Leaf]

loosely +town but not a strong read really. just like gutpings. wouldn't bet the game on it or anything
fl how u reading me btw?

I'm not going to use my role cop on you, that's how I'm reading you.

[unwnd]

I think draft analysis should be considered the same way meta should

In the foreground but not ultimately deciding how you read someone/something

I'm surprised you thought so deeply about that tweetie

[skitter30]

you kept circling back to it and acted like you thought it was a real read, and it just doesn't seem like a real thought to me
i don't think you were particularly trying to get tweetie limmed off of it

pedit fair enuf
just surprised we got to this point this early tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter, I need your thoughts on Ydrasse.

she's town dude

So you think her scum game is weak enough she couldn't fake this?

because I just modded a game with scum her where she came off as hard town sometimes.

[Flavor Leaf]

you kept circling back to it and acted like you thought it was a real read, and it just doesn't seem like a real thought to me
i don't think you were particularly trying to get tweetie limmed off of it

pedit fair enuf
just surprised we got to this point this early tbh

Same.

[unwnd]

The ones about Pooky being scum kinda

I feel I just disagree, I legitimately believe that he is trying to be scummy as town

Insane I know but true, felt like you were pushing the wrong narrative against my own

I feel like if he wanted to be scummy he'd be acting different, if anything him going gameface and throwing out early reads looked like attempting to be town. Where do you think he's trying to be scummy?

Generally speaking? All of his early posts are really scummy, but part of me is psyched because of the setup

Feel like Pooky would just troll as town just to spite Flavor Leaf for picking him (or maybe I'm projecting)

[Chara]

I think draft analysis should be considered the same way meta should

In the foreground but not ultimately deciding how you read someone/something

I'm surprised you thought so deeply about that tweetie

^^^^^

[Flavor Leaf]

I'll be able to read Ydrasse better once Hopkirk gets in here, I feel.

If I think Hopkirk is scum, I probably wont ever think Ydrasse is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I'm playing in a BooneyToonz game, essentially guys. This is fun.