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[xRECKONERx]

i mean there's still four scum left though so like, i'm not discounting that with agar/lillith on the pool early, as the sacrificial lambs, it would make sense for another buddy to give the last buddy extreme town cred to try to go deep, and i could see that being notsci/titus if i squint hard enough

it's not UT. i guess i could see pooky if i squint hard enough as well.

[VP Baltar]

There 100% has to be a scum in that squint pool from your perspective there reck. So, time to get squinting.

[xRECKONERx]

i mean scum could be you + bulge

[xRECKONERx]

so no not 100%

[VP Baltar]

If you think I'm scum after that play on lilith, you are beyond reachable

[xRECKONERx]

i mean yes it was a good swap, but also, you were the opposite on agar? idk
i don't think it's a slam dunk and i dont write people off just for being right bc BUSSING EXISTS

that being said you're not at the top of my list. i haven't had a very good handle on the game.

[VP Baltar]

i mean yes it was a good swap, but also, you were the opposite on agar? idk

I was trying to get lillith yeeted at the time, so I think my play around Agar is even further clearing of me in hindsight. There's no fucking way I would have played that way as scum.

[xRECKONERx]

Gamma, if you think the current elim pool may be all town, why didn’t you try to stop pooky from challenging?

town!pooky, the 3-4 times I’ve seen, has always tried to be logical and reasonable and I see none of that here

throwing shade on pooky for the "all town" pool d1

this feels like lillith trying to setup a mislim on pooky for doing something reckless
also the "if you thought it's all town why not stop him" looks like lillith shading outside the pool
but
i think more than anything, it may point to that initial pool ACTUALLY being all town?

pooky’s posting looks more like what I’d expect from town!him (when he was talking about how VP was pushing him, that felt like him screaming about datisi in micro 960). I feel like I’m pretty meh about the rest of the pool. It’s hard to pin gamma and noraa because I feel like the majority of my impression of their posting is yelling at each other and I don’t think their argument should be considered AI particularly. I don’t have a good grasp on how they’re approaching the game.

How well do Noraa and VP know each other? They both seem very trusting of the other when I think town would be more suspicious/paranoid of early mutual townreads. Noraa is suspicious of gamma townreading her (a trait I generally consider towny), but why isn’t she paranoid of VP?

also just an apology, work is a hot mess. I’m trying to majorly limit screen time (ie visit ms like once per day) because my eyes are screaming for mercy. I have like... 5 more hours of work left and then can try to pop back in, but this is basically how it’s going to be for the foreseeable future.

although kinda backpedalling here on pooky using meta. arghhh.

lillith also white knighted cakez early on

the most engagement we get outta lillith is her 1v1 with agar

second to that? we get back and forth b/t bulge and lillith.

if lillith had a pattern here of engaging in scum theater while calling town town (and i think there's evidence for that) it would be pointing to bulge-scum now

[The Bulge]

im pretty sure theres 0 scum in ut/pooky/reck

if you want to fight us just challenge us and die

i'm also pretty confident in this tbh

I feel like I might remember this happening but when did you flip on pooky?

[The Bulge]

I'm looking at UT again and one weird thing I picked up the other day is the :THINKING: thing confusing me because I think sometimes it means he agrees with the post in question and other times he is shading it without really saying much about whatever he is quoting.

he is also extremely persistent that we only ever discuss players in the limpool

like I said before I do think it's easy to distill a game-advancing motivation to solve from a lot of UT's iso but it is not as clearcut as I initially thought and very possibly within his scumrange to fake. at this point tho my townread from before is only somewhat weakened, and I'm not having any big serious alarm bells over any of this.

[VP Baltar]

Who is scum bulge?

[The Bulge]

I'm narrowing in on I think {pooky/titus}, which are the next two isos I am hoping to do today

[The Bulge]

I am hmmmmmmmmm more sure about reck than UT? and most confident about you town, followed shortly by notty

[VP Baltar]

Guess I didn't realize you were ISOing everyone. Carry on

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm looking at UT again and one weird thing I picked up the other day is the :THINKING: thing confusing me because I think sometimes it means he agrees with the post in question and other times he is shading it without really saying much about whatever he is quoting.

this is such a bizarre thing to say

I went back and looked at the posts he's referencing
a. it is extremely clear from context what I meant
b. those posts are so minor and inconsequential compared to the fact that I spent all of Day 1 hellriding a misyeet while trying to keep VP from getting yeeted (who is now trying to talk people into voting me lol). grabbing that as "this weird thing I noticed that UT did" tells me that Bulge went into that post looking for reasons to scumread me but couldn't think of any. which is fucking baffling since my play this game has been

terrible

[Untrod Tripod]

Here's something we should explore. Why did we yeet SirCakez over lillith

[The Bulge]

not a can of worms I care to open or anything I overly care to get an answer for now, but they are actually super not clear to me.

and I don't know that you're reading my post correctly? or you're getting defensive over me moving you down my townlist a notch. but I'm not scumreading you so idk where the reaching you think im doing is happening

[xRECKONERx]

I am hmmmmmmmmm more sure about reck than UT? and most confident about you town, followed shortly by notty

more sure ab me being scum? what?

[The Bulge]

being town

[notscience]

Here's something we should explore. Why did we yeet SirCakez over lillith

I literally have a post talking about this

Top lillith wagon was

Cakez me bulge

Cakez lim

Koba reck me baltar lillith

I voted bc I didn’t care who in my pool died as I believed (and still kinda do) two scum in the pool. Koba said something about agar spewing lillith town. Reck said it was his birthday and he’d be back and we talked about cake

Idr why baltar voted

[xRECKONERx]

i voted cakez over lillith bc i was honestly tired of koba being fucking obnoxious tbh

[VP Baltar]

Agar's reaction to the noraa/gamma argument just felt like he had assigned a townread and a scumread to whoever, when imo both noraa and gamma had very similar reactions. I mean, sure, people aren't going to read others perfectly symmetrically, but that post stuck out to me because I didn't really feel like he articulated why one was town and not the other based on their argument. Then later, I thought I caught something that felt contradictory - he said originally that he townread noraa for her reaction to arguing with gamma; then he said that he didn't townread her for it; and since the original post had stuck in my mind, when he said the second thing later I had kind of a lightbulb moment. I don't think it mattered as much whether he was townreading noraa or not for that, but that he directly contradicted himself about his read on her. I have no idea if it was actually AI in hindsight/whether I just happened to be on a correct wagon for the wrong reason or whether that was actually a scummy thing I caught him doing.

I gave cakes a pass early on, but I think it was because I felt guilty for not being in the pt/being a more active partner. He really doesn't seem to have made much attempt to sort me and then came out and instavoted me today and can't even give reasons for it/doesn't really seem to have put thought into that read. Also in retrospect, I think it's possible Agar was avoiding getting into a 1v1 with cakes because he didn't want two main wagons of the day being both on scum. With a gamma townflip, I think it's worth paying attention to gamma and noraa both scumreading him too.

Blerg. This feels fairly townie to me.

Do you think Cakez would have been trying to solve you if he were town? That's contradictory to you not solving him, no?

VOTE: Cakez

Let's see if noraa and gamma were right.

This was my vote. I waffled and was second guessing myself on lillith at the time, plus gamma and Noraa were both saying they meta read Cakez as scum.

[VP Baltar]

i voted cakez over lillith bc i was honestly tired of koba being fucking obnoxious tbh

What did voting Cakez prove about Koba?

[xRECKONERx]

that koba overestimates their ability or is scum

[VP Baltar]

So it proved nothing then about their alignment