Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Starcrossed]

is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

yeeeeees

[Starcrossed]

is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

i mean it is definitely possible this is SvS not that its bizareeee

[Starcrossed]

dw tonight i’ll post something special for you in the mason pt... (;

you are good with words, I'll give you that, and I do have a passion for words.

when passion's a prison you can't break freee...........

[Starcrossed]

actually i might be ready to call skitter townish, i think going from being uncomfortable with me after our interaction to then worrying about Tweet and i being scum together speaks towards the kind of kneejerk paranoia read town would have (at least it's a feeling i often experience as town), more than something scum would be comfortable floating.

what's going on with RCE?

I don't think skitter scum just keeps pinging me with pooky is scum comments

[Starcrossed]

is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

skitter, i am sorry i tilted you so early.

it is ok
i dont' think i'm tilted, just rn everything you're saying feels scummy to me

but i am recognizing that maybe i am tunneled so i shall drop it for tonight and revisit like tomorrow or something

VOTE: starcrossed

i do think you're scummy but i shall try to take a step back for a bit and if i still think so in the morning i shall revote

she's back! :O

[Starcrossed]

Sure.

This is a small thing, but putting early doubt on the miller claim with 67, I feel like when there is an early negative utility claim (e.g. miller, ascetic), scum try to put doubt on it because they don't want someone getting a townpass off a claim.

So, I felt like the townread on me in 76 was a bit premature, and when I asked him about it, he just reversed it in 89, I didn't really get what was going on there, and the explanation in 98 didn't really clear things up. I also think the rabbit hole he's going down of speculating on roles that work bassed on player list positioning there and in 122 feels like the sort of baseless spec a scum player might slip into to give the appearance of producing content without doing actual solving because it doesn't go anywhere.

The "don't kill me n1" comment in 79 is a bit performative too, I'm not sure why he'd ever expect to get nightkilled n1 particularly when he's remarking on how amazing the playerlist is. Feels more like something someone attempting to towntell says than a real thought.

Response to skitter in 150 looks kind of gut towny on tone, though.

After that breaks into filler talk for a while. I don't understand the Ydrasse read in 550 (to me nothing she's done leaves an impression), or how me being sassy equates to me being probably town. Other posts are meh. I could see this as scum on a gut level in that his posts are "off" but I probably couldn't make a real case on him.

catboi so red

[Starcrossed]

When Pooky’s scum, he sounds really off somehow and I’m not feeling that here. Also. he is trying to solve.

this is an incredibly generous interpretation of my random flailing :3

[Starcrossed]

I go back and forth with Starcrossed.

I only go back and forth with you because it's more fun that way :3

[Starcrossed]

I actually think those were auro posts
They werent great tho

those were obviously nancy posts

[Starcrossed]

I could see it as S/S.

YEEEEES SKITTER GUIDE OUR LORD TO THE PROMISED LAND

[Starcrossed]

I actually want pooky to explain his catboi read for me, i feel there might be substance to his scumread on me but i don't think so with catboi so its the only thing that makes me take pause. Otherwise i would just call stargazed town.

catboi is someone I would expect Hectic to pick to deepwolf and every post he makes screams deepwolf to me

[Starcrossed]

LETS CASE THIS MOFO WITH A HUGE ASS WALL.

this wall is so small i could step over it without even jumping.

[Hopkirk]

I think Chara/Catboi are town

And for some reason, I sorta think Ydrasee is town

The anime talk was just really pure lol

Funny I thought ydrasse came out of that really townie. I still maintain Chara is scum though. Catboi is sassy and probably town.

Talk to me about your chara read.

i agree with all of these reads, especially ydrasse town from anime stuff and chara scum (that's largely from my pick speculation though)

In terms of the people I voted so far I think Gamma -> Firebringer -> RCE in terms the order of which I felt the most strong about. My park on Firebringer keeps him on his toes though so it stays

i like you but i don't get any of these reads? whys?

Oh we're talking about me YAY!@

I won't comment on what's actually AI for me and instead think about why Chara/skitts are under the impression of my play that they r

Oh on further evaluation i have a similar question as skitts for Chara -- why do you take me as the type to take to fluff enthusiastically, but more likely to do so as town? In the only game we have played (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=28527), i had an unusually heavy amount of mechanical and reads talk at the beginning.

my posts were like at least 5-6 lines long from the start and all game.. somehow

you feel kind of off?

he’s still more faithful than the other stump tho

we need to get together and beat him up one of these days for abandoning us like this.

sign up to help hectic beat flavor leaf and he doesn't even recruit you to the scum team :/

LITERALLY

no more hair twirling i’m THROUGH w it

woah... you might want to take a minute before you say something you can't take back

Okay from here on.

I am gonna wall post. Long essays on each and everythought
Heavy dissections into posts.

It will be like ur playing with mastina.

You all been warned. You will all be drowning in walls

... wow. can you not post hoptic's avatar to slightly shade me by association with hectic? wow.

i have no idea of Tweet's scum meta. maybe she is the type of nervous scum who takes refuge in a town largely fluffposting. but without that context, it's bothering me that skitter, moreso than thinking Tweet wasn't doing that, rather takes issue with the idea that there might be scum deliberately going for the easy towncred.

also sorry Fire, i didn't see your return. :>

pedit: ehhh. i really don't agree, with the notion that scum wouldn't care about making a strong entry into the game, or that prodding Tweet on a scum ping would be a bad idea.

irregardless of her scum meta i think that nearly all scum choose to join the fluff fest there
and that it's a bit townie for people who instead chose to try to move the game along

i'm not saying that proddign tweet is a bad idea inherently so much as i think that the reasoning for this push is quite questionable

I didn't think the game was that fluffy when Tweet started posting anyway. I did think unwnd stopping the anime derail was worthy of townpoints, I think in most instances there weebscum are going to continue fluffing and nonweebscum would lurk it out, commonality is scum would be okay with avoiding serious discussion

not sure i agree with these two posts. scum are aware it looks townie to try and move things on. in practice it's easy posturing points and Skitter30's post moving things along during it pinged me slightly.

The only draft analysis I'm going to make is that Lunar Martian is probably town.

I agree that it's unlikely Hectic picks a newer player even for WIFOM -- that'd be risky for not lot of gain

i wanted to do mastina-style draft analysis (before the game, even if i had rolled scum i wanted to do this) but i just dont know how well Hectic knows most of you. let me try

Spoiler: Really bad draft analysis

I think it's already been said that Ydrasse/Hopkirk are decent bets if Hectic wants a good fren, and that's true.

I slightly lean he doesn't pick Gamma/Titus (?) because I've played/spectated games with Hectic where they were eliminated (gamma town Titus scum)

I could definitely see maybe picking the Venus hydra

Chkflip/Dann/Fire i think are all good players in their own rights although im less familiar with them. I know Dann is good at scum because he's been accused of deepwolfing in every game ive ever seen him in, Fire i think generally is a tricky read to make but i dont think ive seen him eliminated, chkflip i think is prolly experienced

Skitts/chara both good at scum and generally are players you would want on your team

Fuck I'm saying he could pick everyone LOL let's go about it a different way

I lean that he doesn't pick Lunar, and I think he probably doesn't pick Titus/Gamma/RCEnigma/unwnd. I actually think Starcrossed might be too obvious in a way but probably dont put much faith into that. Oh and also Xtoxm

Yeah so that sucked i think Hectic could pick just about anybody, but I don't think he has more than maybe one in Lunar/Titus/Gamma/RCEnigma/unwnd/Xtoxm if any at all due to mostly not being as familiar or not being as likely to obvtown, or in Lunar's case, being new. Obviously though he might pick in there by virtue of that, so ill give it an error of one

how come you didn't mention that hectic is well aware i haven't been scum in 3 years? do you think hectic would be less likely to pick me due to that given a lot of your analysis is based on how-good-as-scum a player is? how do you think hectic would draft - for fun or for winning?

I'll be able to read Ydrasse better once Hopkirk gets in here, I feel.

If I think Hopkirk is scum, I probably wont ever think Ydrasse is scum.

i've used my one shot-ydrasse day cop like you asked and it's coming up with 'town'. hope that's what you meant

How well does Hectic know Auro? Anyone know?

is auro using an alt?

[Starcrossed]

Btw I will fight pooky anyday of the week and win

there is no fantasy world in which you would win a 1v1 vs me

i always win

even if i get elimmed

cuz i have more fun than any1 here

[Starcrossed]

also the whole thing about me being not present during shit posting is weird. I think pooky just wants wagon on me though and will agree with bad takes to get it. Implying i cn't keep up with speed as scum for shitposting!?!?!?! The very idea.

imagine thinking I'd want to kill my favorite person to talk to smh

[Starcrossed]

is auro using an alt?

auro is in the triple hydra

[Starcrossed]

Suspecting me is also probably good enough >.>

scuuumtweet

[Starcrossed]

i couldn't read all of the pages... i'm sorry, i couldn't do it. i'm just here so i can flirt with pooky and so far, i am not disappointed.
i think ydrasse/morning are decently obvtown
ydrasse feels comfortable and free
morning is playing to her town meta

i see a lot of talk around us and am not sure why; do you guys think hectic picks us or have we been scummy?

~mitsuha

You don't have to read the game my dear, I shall read it all for you and feed you strawberries and honeyed wine and we can laugh at all the silliness around us.

for you are mine and I am yours and nothing else in this world truly matters

[Starcrossed]

@Hopkirk would you like to mock draft with me?

You can be Hectic and I will be Krazy

[Hopkirk]

Gamma Emerald, Titus, Chkflip, and Xtoxm.

I want to hear some from them, see where their heads are at. They're not going to be happy with the pace of this game.

I have met Titus in real life multiple times.

I have met Chkflip in real life once.

I have never met Xtoxm, but Xtoxm and I work really well together.

Gamma and I go like 6 years back. (Titus technically going on 7 since we met.)

I want to see their reads.

kind of weird you didn't mention me from those times we met back in Santa Rosa tbh

you’ll get your damn reads tomorrow!!!!!

is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

nah, i'm leaning thereish

anyone miss me......

absolutely

[Finral]

-Firebringer is probably town.

Firebringer/Hopkirk team

[Finral]

i feel like you haven't seen that hectic has something like 30 openly disclosed alts on his out of data wiki page?

oh, damn. then he needs to play some more games on some of them.

[Finral]

I actually think those were auro posts
They werent great tho

those were obviously nancy posts

I have a thing with that hydra where I'm so messed up, I thought Shiro was Mars for the longest time.

[Hopkirk]

i so alone no one care me

hectic look what you've done...
i think hectic didn't pick ydrasse but next time he'll have to

i couldn't read all of the pages... i'm sorry, i couldn't do it. i'm just here so i can flirt with pooky and so far, i am not disappointed.
i think ydrasse/morning are decently obvtown
ydrasse feels comfortable and free
morning is playing to her town meta

i see a lot of talk around us and am not sure why; do you guys think hectic picks us or have we been scummy?

~mitsuha

hectic doesn't pick a hydra.

uh... that's not how consent works pooky

sometimes you have to be aggressive when you want something

uh...

Fire's opening isn't great but I feel like hectic doesn't pick him here.

what do you think Hectic's pick list looks like ?

i'll go over this is it's own post

@Hopkirk would you like to mock draft with me?

You can be Hectic and I will be Krazy

yeah sure give me a bit

i feel like you haven't seen that hectic has something like 30 openly disclosed alts on his out of data wiki page?

oh, damn. then he needs to play some more games on some of them.

it's frequently done so that he can play one game with them then reveal they're a secret alt post-game and make it a public alt.

[Finral]

kind of weird you didn't mention me from those times we met back in Santa Rosa tbh

what...

can't tell if this is real or he's making a joke about the time I randomly figured out I knew someone I was playing with that I hadn't really talked to in years.

I also am iffy with Hopkirk scum or not.