TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Albert can you elaborate on your FOS on Agar? Or at a minimum the reasoning behind your desire to pressure them?

pedit: lol what do you mean your vote is chosen from a hat? if you don't reveal any of your thought process how do you expect to be read? do you think it's >50 rand that Agar is scum? what do you make of his reaction if it's solely for pressure?

It's not my responsibility to help you read me. My style is aggressive. Yes I think AGar should be pushed and I will make my decision later. His posts speak for itself, what more can I say about them that you can't think about for yourself?

[Hopkirk]

do you think this is closer to your usual town style?

Yeah, this is more my style when I'm taking things a bit more seriously, I'd say.

has hectic got much experience with you/any games you think are similar? i'll probably ask him anyway.

Also yes I am approaching the game from a Scum!A50 standpoint because that is my view. Why would I approach it otherwise? Seems counter-intuitive to me.

staypositivefriend's point was that she read you as basically **starting** with A50 scum and reading the game that way rather than striving to ascertain their alignment. I'm not sure if I can clarify it anymore than that. Basically she is suspecting you of having an agenda w.r.t. A50

what's the scum motivation there? I think A50 is a strong slot right and the argument doesn't strike me as though WF is making it expecting to see a big wagon from just what they've said? Am I missing some of SPF's thoughts here?

did you read the entirety of the post I made with her reads? just asking so I know the context of this post you just made before we continue

i probably read it but don't remember it, so either i was skimming or it didn't stick with me

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR I think you're town

You can burn me later, your vote on AGar is pure and Ceph is townie as well

This can be your redemption to what you did to me in Fake Peoples

I took that game to heart and changed my play after. Hopkirk and Uncrowned can attest to me not taking center stage anymore and allowing the game to flow without me picking it apart and prodding at it insistently. We won our last game as town quite nicely.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Link: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=85481

[Hopkirk]

ABR was relatively reserved during the game we played that started 14 days ago and ended like 3 days ago. It wasn't what i was expecting to see since i'd skimmed a couple of his guides a few years back where he kept saying 'pick someone and tunnel them to death. here's some games where i tunneled people to death'.

[Albert B. Rampage]

and was it effective?

[Hopkirk]

i think you were in a lot of POEs towards the end because of the deepwolf. you gave me townpings as did uncrowned which i was struggling to reconcile with the number of TRs i had in general that game and your reads worked so i guess so

[hercule]

@Albert can you elaborate on your FOS on Agar? Or at a minimum the reasoning behind your desire to pressure them?

pedit: lol what do you mean your vote is chosen from a hat? if you don't reveal any of your thought process how do you expect to be read? do you think it's >50 rand that Agar is scum? what do you make of his reaction if it's solely for pressure?

It's not my responsibility to help you read me. My style is aggressive. Yes I think AGar should be pushed and I will make my decision later. His posts speak for itself, what more can I say about them that you can't think about for yourself?

I disagree with that mentality, it's town's responsibility to express their mindset as much as possible and show that they are solving the game from a town perspective. Being found as town is even more important than finding scum! It's like step 1 in the town booklet. Establish yourself as town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I wrote the town booklet and you weren't in it

[Hopkirk]

i'm pretty interested in these slots atm, how are you two feeling them (ABR/herc)

JacksonVirgo
AGar
the worst
Almost50
Titus
uncrowned (ish)
xtoxm (remember 1 post)

[hercule]

i'm pretty interested in these slots atm, how are you two feeling them (ABR/herc)

JacksonVirgo
AGar
the worst
Almost50
Titus
uncrowned (ish)
xtoxm (remember 1 post)

snap reads would be:

JV: didn't love their entrance wallpost, I questioned them on it and got no response. Agreed that their exit felt overly AtE-y but not going to sort someone based on that considering possible external factors, wouldn't say they have towntold yet.

AGar: uhhh to be honest this is one of the slots I want to ISO, not sure what to make of the wagon on them, not sure what to make of Ceph's case on their one post and then their countercase, gut tells me it's not TvT

the worst: ive been soft townleaning them most of the game, i liked their intro despite maybe having too easy of a tr on me.

A50: i didn't really have a problem with his filler entrance considering it was the first 12 hours so I left him null, but still nothing they have done as really stood out to me past that

Titus: genuinely am unaware of a single thing they have said or done lmao hold on I will ISO them rq to give something. meh, mainly looks like posting for the sake of posting. not a big fan of the content

uncrowned: peta and spf both scumlean them, peta specifically didnt buy any of their townreads and thought their opening post on A50 was "really weak" to paraphrase it, this is the second path I wanted to pursue, will prob ISO in depth today. petapan expressed at beginning they would obvtown if they were town and wouldn't if they were scum and that has stuck with me because i haven't seen any glimpses of that

xtoxm: townlean, low quantity but town thought process seems to shine through regardless

[Albert B. Rampage]

im interested in the worst calling AGar a bad wagon, the others i havent given much thought to yet

[Hopkirk]

did your team have any thoughts on the worst @herc?

[hercule]

did your team have any thoughts on the worst @herc?

haven't asked yet, for the big games we are trying to ask targeted questions to be responsible with everyone's time. is there anyone's opinion you are specifically interested in?

[hercule]

tbh I wouldn't put it past Super to randomly ISO everyone in all the games though lmfao

[Hopkirk]

how's he vibing to them? me/hectic weren't big fans (hectic hasn't read up today though so that could have changed?)

[Hopkirk]

how are they *

[Hopkirk]

no he was right there.

i think i'll eat dinner...

[hercule]

I'll letcha know

[Ythan]

Morning friends.

[hercule]

howdy ythan (friend)

[Ythan]

I'm good back at you.

[hercule]

so, ythan, as a quick catch-up, my teammate townreads you and I am trying to sheep her and back off your slot a bit but... it does not escape my memory that you said you were going to "momentarily" walk me through your daystart and how I mischaracterized it and then you never spoke about it again. I approach this not as an adversary but as a genuine effort to understand your thought process

pedit: i'm good. i was about to leave the thread and do "real life" things but i wanna have this convo real quick and try to clear up any misunderstanding

[Ythan]

Numbers twenty four and thirty seven were the springs beginning to tense

[Ythan]

That's post numbers, and the springs are those on the trap that has ensnared you.