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Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:50 am

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I think we vote superbowl into the arena next, personally.
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Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:53 am

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Didn't we already hammer?
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Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:11 am

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oh yeah I'm thinking we're phase one... fuck my brainfog

Yeah we're deleting Superbowl tomorrow.
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Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:14 am

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wait wtf... who got hammered?

... dafuq have I missed?
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Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:16 am

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@Mod Game state update please?
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Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:19 am

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Yup incoming
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Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:23 am

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With 11 alive it takes 6 to Nominate. Nomination Phase 1 ends at (expired on 2021-01-20 22:25:25)


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Dunnstral (0): Bell
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Bell (0):
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Not Voting (0): kookiemonster, superbowl9


Spoiler: Nominated
1. Oil Tycoons
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Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:27 am

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In post 2821, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2786, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2778, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2767, Flea The Magician wrote:We vote scum into the arena, oil lives and activates the positive ability tonight, if all abilities are enhanced, we'll know about it.
Then frankly Oil becomes arena bait if we can't decide who is scum to send into the arena.
Anyone else amused by Finrals ignorance of this?

In theory if we have a protective and oil activates the power tonight nobody dies.
Also in theory an investigative will get MULTIPLE RESULTS... or at least, something traceable.
Yes because we should believe the team that gave scum a free IC kill
additionally, scum took a punt at killing Mastina, the IC.

Clearly it's more likely that they KNEW Mastina wouldn't be protected, which suggests Oil-scum. If they didn't know Mastina would be protected, frankly, they are dense and got very lucky.
In post 2795, Flea The Magician wrote:Bell can be locktown.
Eww no. Jury's out but in simple terms:

Oil-scum means Bell-town.
Oil-town means Bell is worth a good look.
I don't think the claim is worth much - it's an easy scum fakeclaim right? Bell feels out on a limb. But they'll be sorted in due time, so I wouldn't sweat it for today.
In post 2808, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2804, Bell wrote:2 if oil is 3p. Is my guess.

Also, flea, if you're negative I see no reason for you to time stream yeet yourself at all really.
I think Oil + Flea 3P with 2 scum
where did you get Flea as 3p from? and how did you jump from Oil is confscum based on the claim to Oil is 3p?
wut.
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Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:32 am

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In post 2819, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2782, Bell wrote:It's worth keeping the 3p alive if they are a 3p because, I don't have any other abilities and it's likely based on the current abilities that there are more town abilities out there that would benefit fi the 3p claim is true.

If oil is negative for the indicator they are 100% 3rd party.
this seems like a bit of a waste of your ability though isn't it? I mean, if you get a negative on both, we're still elimming Oil.

I don't understand why you even triggered this here? Surely better to keep quiet for another day?
Eh they have to activate their buff ability that is probably town + Ev wise.
Also, I'm not really sure there's much point in me sitting on this for longer.
Likewise if you think this is some kind of awkward scum gambit say so.
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Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:47 am

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UNVOTE:

We have a bit of time to go yet, be a shame to waste it.
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Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 2823, superbowl9 wrote: Oil's ability got announced, also I don't start a game (esp. 13p) assuming it will be multiball, so know that we know there's 3P stuff involved we need to take that into account with Bell's investigative. If they come up red it doesn't matter anyways though yes
maybe I'm being dense but...Oil's ability could be a scum ability no? But you assumed 3P despite initially positioning yourself very strongly otherwise. Did I miss something?
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Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:48 am

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Hm... This is certainly interesting though that Superbowl didn't have their vote on me.
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Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:49 am

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Also pushing for my fullclaim and the 3p shenanigans...


VOTE: Superbowl
Oil, if you live - which I'm sure you do, you activate your positive role tonight, agreed?
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Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:50 am

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In post 2824, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2821, Battle Mage wrote:where did you get Flea as 3p from? and how did you jump from Oil is confscum based on the claim to Oil is 3p?
"I suicide" is a 3P ability in my book. Oil is clearly at minimum scumsiding so they are scum, whether that be scum 3P or true scum. Combine that with Oil's 3P claim and I think Flea/Oil are a 3P team that's scumsiding
They are a 3P team, and Flea's big plan was to...elim them both in 1 go? Notwithstanding the fact they backtracked.

I just think 3p for BOTH is a real long shot here, and may not be true for either, but you're treating it as the most likely scenario. Doesn't seem great to me.
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Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:51 am

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In post 2822, Flea The Magician wrote:Given i jump out of the timeline... I have "no town use".

My only option now is to timeline jump.
This doesn't make sense to me.
The more town in the game, the better.
I want to make it clear I want you in that arena because knowing your alignment helps considerably more than not in this town zeitgeist.
I don't think your role is particularly townie from what you've said about it and I don't think you wanting to activate your ability makes sense.

If you're confirmed to be town then great. Stick around. vote other people that might be scum instead of just disappearing cutting us down one town?
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Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:52 am

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In post 2837, Flea The Magician wrote:Also pushing for my fullclaim and the 3p shenanigans...


VOTE: Superbowl
Oil, if you live - which I'm sure you do, you activate your positive role tonight, agreed?
They literally die unless scum is in the arena with them and they are actually a third party.
There are very few scenarios in which they survive to tomorrow.
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Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:54 am

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Oil claimed 3p.

I really doubt Flea is a 3p.
They're either scum or town.
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Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:54 am

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In post 2833, Bell wrote:
In post 2819, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2782, Bell wrote:It's worth keeping the 3p alive if they are a 3p because, I don't have any other abilities and it's likely based on the current abilities that there are more town abilities out there that would benefit fi the 3p claim is true.

If oil is negative for the indicator they are 100% 3rd party.
this seems like a bit of a waste of your ability though isn't it? I mean, if you get a negative on both, we're still elimming Oil.

I don't understand why you even triggered this here? Surely better to keep quiet for another day?
Eh they have to activate their buff ability that is probably town + Ev wise.
Also, I'm not really sure there's much point in me sitting on this for longer.
Likewise if you think this is some kind of awkward scum gambit say so.
I think it's a mis-judged play if you're town, although tbh I still don't really understand what your judgement was here - it felt like your claim was completely redundant and an unnecessary outting for minimal/no benefit. If you're scum, I don't know if it's "awkward" - maybe it's a good gambit, given people less paranoid than me have seemed to bite.
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Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:57 am

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So you think I might be scum gambiting.
To...protect my scum partner or something?
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Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:57 am

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In post 2837, Flea The Magician wrote:Also pushing for my fullclaim and the 3p shenanigans...


VOTE: Superbowl
Oil, if you live - which I'm sure you do, you activate your positive role tonight, agreed?
hold up...you're sure Oil lives today? On what grounds!?

I am so confused in this damn game.

Flea - what have you actually claimed? I think if you full-claimed and I could figure out what the hell is going on with you and Oil, I can consider sheeping your superbowl vote.
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Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:59 am

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In post 2843, Bell wrote:So you think I might be scum gambiting.
To...protect my scum partner or something?
Erm, I figure it's more to protect yourself right? But yes, I do think that's eminently possible.

But I think I want to work out what the shizz is going on with Oil and Flea before worrying about it. Do you have your result yet?
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Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:59 am

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Oil has to activate their ability every night for 3 days to achieve their win condition.
They can't refuse to use their ability according to their claim and this is easily verified tomorrow whether they lied abbout their abilities if in the unlikly event they survive to tommorrow.
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Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:59 am

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In post 2845, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2843, Bell wrote:So you think I might be scum gambiting.
To...protect my scum partner or something?
Erm, I figure it's more to protect yourself right? But yes, I do think that's eminently possible.

But I think I want to work out what the shizz is going on with Oil and Flea before worrying about it. Do you have your result yet?
I don't get the result until they're both in the arena.
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Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:00 am

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Bell, if you're town - the most helpful thing here would be to talk me through the rationale for your claim.
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Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:00 am

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Which is why I made a post about hurting and healing as a way to communicate what my results were.
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