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Post Post #2925 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:39 pm

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Nah, I get a scum indicator. It's not a guilty, just points to them likely being scum. Based on the information provided by them so far it should work as intended.
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Post Post #2926 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 2778, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2767, Flea The Magician wrote:We vote scum into the arena, oil lives and activates the positive ability tonight, if all abilities are enhanced, we'll know about it.
Then frankly Oil becomes arena bait if we can't decide who is scum to send into the arena.
Anyone else amused by Finrals ignorance of this?

In theory if we have a protective and oil activates the power tonight nobody dies.
Also in theory an investigative will get MULTIPLE RESULTS... or at least, something traceable.
Hmmm......
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Post Post #2927 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:40 pm

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Trying to determine if Flea is at E-1 or not, but pretty sure mod's VC is wrong. Nero is not anywhere on it
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Post Post #2928 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:40 pm

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In post 2925, Bell wrote:Nah, I get a scum indicator. It's not a guilty, just points to them likely being scum. Based on the information provided by them so far it should work as intended.
Oh okay. Then 3P for both actually is back on the table
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Post Post #2929 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:42 pm

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I'm E2 currently.

Vote someone actually scummy into the arena, superbowls been acting well funky, for example... bell DOES NOT use his ability, we eliminate not-oil. oil uses positive power, I protect tonight, nobody dies. Bells power is saved, we might have a chance
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Post Post #2930 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:43 pm

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In post 2913, Flea The Magician wrote:Active, I protect one person per night.
Active, I protect a nominated person on a nominated night.
Active, I leave the time stream to come back at a time nominated when I leave, for all intents and purposes I count as not being in the game, my slot doesn't exist, I can't post, vote, or use actions.

I can do 1 per night.
In post 2921, Flea The Magician wrote:*facepalm*

"HeyMod, I want to protect Mastina Tonight!"

"Hey Mod, I want to protect Bell on N4"

"Hey Mod, I'm jumping timestreams until D4."
In post 2922, Perfect Cell wrote:
In post 2918, Bell wrote:Actually.

Cell, what would you call the phases present in this game?
You have Day Start -> Nomination Phase 1/2-> Elimination Phase -> Twilight -> Night
Could you be more specific without getting nked? You can check with the mod first.
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Post Post #2931 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:44 pm

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In post 2926, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2778, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2767, Flea The Magician wrote:We vote scum into the arena, oil lives and activates the positive ability tonight, if all abilities are enhanced, we'll know about it.
Then frankly Oil becomes arena bait if we can't decide who is scum to send into the arena.
Anyone else amused by Finrals ignorance of this?

In theory if we have a protective and oil activates the power tonight nobody dies.
Also in theory an investigative will get MULTIPLE RESULTS... or at least, something traceable.
Hmmm......
So why not do this N1 unless they are scumsiding??? Why would we expect them to use their town ability tomorrow night??? If that's actually their wincon they use neutral to keep the carrot of a souped up town night around, oops too bad we trusted the player who killed our IC huh guys!?!?!
And why are you defending scum so much? (Pretty sure we know the answer to this one)
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Post Post #2932 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:44 pm

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Bell... bell... just... bell...

How much more specific do you want me to be without quoting my role pm?
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Post Post #2933 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 pm

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In post 2929, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm E2 currently.

Vote someone actually scummy into the arena, superbowls been acting well funky, for example... bell DOES NOT use his ability, we eliminate not-oil. oil uses positive power, I protect tonight, nobody dies. Bells power is saved, we might have a chance
WHY WOULD OIL USE A POSITIVE POWER TONIGHT IF THEY HAVE THEIR STATED WINCON


We literally just caught 2 scum
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Post Post #2934 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:47 pm

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In post 2931, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2926, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2778, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2767, Flea The Magician wrote:We vote scum into the arena, oil lives and activates the positive ability tonight, if all abilities are enhanced, we'll know about it.
Then frankly Oil becomes arena bait if we can't decide who is scum to send into the arena.
Anyone else amused by Finrals ignorance of this?

In theory if we have a protective and oil activates the power tonight nobody dies.
Also in theory an investigative will get MULTIPLE RESULTS... or at least, something traceable.
Hmmm......
So why not do this N1 unless they are scumsiding??? Why would we expect them to use their town ability tomorrow night??? If that's actually their wincon they use neutral to keep the carrot of a souped up town night around, oops too bad we trusted the player who killed our IC huh guys!?!?!
And why are you defending scum so much? (Pretty sure we know the answer to this one)

PEDIT: Because they have to use all 3 abilities.
Use positive tonight.
No kills :o
They need to survive.
I am a protective.
Boosted protective means no kills.

ELI5 much?
You're scum, just admit it. You're not even reading the game.

All 3 abilities have to be used.
They are a survivor.
They NOW HAVE TO WORK WITH TOWN.
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Post Post #2935 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:47 pm

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VOTE: Flea
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Post Post #2936 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:49 pm

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In post 2688, Oil Tycoons wrote:We're Jimmy Cracker, human reporter =
survivor.


Our ability is Reporting to you Live! and we have to use all three shots of it and survive to the end in order to win - a positive report, a negative report, a neutral report.

Negative report is what we used last night - roleblocks everything but scum kill.

Positive report soups up all active abilities.

Neutral does nothing.
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Post Post #2937 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:51 pm

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In post 2934, Flea The Magician wrote:PEDIT: Because they have to use all 3 abilities.
Use positive tonight.
No kills :o
They need to survive.
I am a protective.
Boosted protective means no kills.

ELI5 much?
You're scum, just admit it. You're not even reading the game.

All 3 abilities have to be used.
They are a survivor.
They NOW HAVE TO WORK WITH TOWN.
Tell me exactly why they would use positive power just to get killed tomorrow when they no longer benefit town?? They would obviously use the neutral action and hold their positive over town's head to draw protections. Do I need to ELI5???
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Post Post #2938 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:52 pm

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I am the protective...
I cannot understand what you aren't comprehending here.
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Post Post #2939 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:54 pm

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Can you find some logic that actually addresses my point instead of just reiterating your fakeclaim? You literally can't because there's no way out of what I pointed out
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Post Post #2940 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:57 pm

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If you are town, great! Let's get you into the arena and check you. We know Oil's not town so if you're actually town then you're confed and apparently have unlimited self protections. So we're gaining an IC and losing a scumsiding 3P if not just scum. But you 1. apparently 100% believe in Oil's claim and 2. still don't want to follow the plan! Like connect the dots people
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Post Post #2941 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:58 pm

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You're genuinely frustrating me.

Oil is a Survivor, oil needs to keep me happy to live. because like balls am I targetting them with my protection tonight. If they want to ensure their survival, they will use their positive power.

If Oil does not, one of us dies. Scums best shot, is oil or me.

Without me, Oil cannot survive.

Oils hand is forced. As is mine.
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Post Post #2942 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:59 pm

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If I am in that arena, and I survive, I'm covering my own ass and vanishing, leaving you an extra town down, another vote and another voice down.
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Post Post #2943 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 2932, Flea The Magician wrote:Bell... bell... just... bell...

How much more specific do you want me to be without quoting my role pm?
You can be more specific than currently without breaking the rules if you work with the mod you can be more clear of what each ability does and when and how it can be used.
As long as you work with the mod in good faith he will not mod kill you.
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Post Post #2944 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:08 pm

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In post 2941, Flea The Magician wrote:You're genuinely frustrating me.

Oil is a Survivor, oil needs to keep me happy to live. because like balls am I targetting them with my protection tonight. If they want to ensure their survival, they will use their positive power.

If Oil does not, one of us dies. Scums best shot, is oil or me.

Without me, Oil cannot survive.

Oils hand is forced. As is mine.
Let's pretend in fucking fantasy land that you're town for one moment.

1. Why do you believe apparently 100% Oil's claim? They just admitted to killing our IC.
2. Why are you afraid of dying whatsoever? You will get copped by bell and show up green, so you are in no danger of being limmed. You will be in no danger of dying during the night since you can self-protect.

Clearly you want to avoid the arena, which should IC you if you're town and show us whether Oil is required to scumside. Thus you are not town.

Your logic in your post is also once again wrong. If Oil uses the town-sided action, why would they then turn into scum's best target as a claimed 3P vanilla over an OP protective????? If Oil doesn't use the town-sided action (which they fucking won't because WHY WOULD THEY IT DOESNT HELP THEIR WINCON), scum still does not kill them because the same logic will keep on applying (much less over a god-doc). OR, scum could just shoot the claimed fucking investigative and avoid this shit altogether. This is literally moonlogic that you keep repeating
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Post Post #2945 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:09 pm

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Notice how the result of Flea's plan is "don't cop check me or oil and keep us alive until endgame"??? Like wtf is this
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Post Post #2946 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:10 pm

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In post 2943, Bell wrote:
In post 2932, Flea The Magician wrote:Bell... bell... just... bell...

How much more specific do you want me to be without quoting my role pm?
You can be more specific than currently without breaking the rules if you work with the mod you can be more clear of what each ability does and when and how it can be used.
As long as you work with the mod in good faith he will not mod kill you.
I literally can't
Action 1 - Standard Doc
Action 2 - Doc player X on Night Y in the future.
Action 3 - 1-shot - yeet myself out of the time stream for a while.
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Post Post #2947 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:12 pm

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You can....Protect people in the future and then time stream yourself?
What.
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Post Post #2948 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 2947, Bell wrote:You can....Protect people in the future and then time stream yourself?
What.
The claim is actually made up as you pointed out with the failed flavor

Either way our best recourse is to just arena and check both, like BM said it’s pretty simple
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Post Post #2949 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:15 pm

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In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2941, Flea The Magician wrote:You're genuinely frustrating me.

Oil is a Survivor, oil needs to keep me happy to live. because like balls am I targetting them with my protection tonight. If they want to ensure their survival, they will use their positive power.

If Oil does not, one of us dies. Scums best shot, is oil or me.

Without me, Oil cannot survive.

Oils hand is forced. As is mine.
Let's pretend in fucking fantasy land that you're town for one moment.

1. Why do you believe apparently 100% Oil's claim? They just admitted to killing our IC.
They admitted INDIRECT INVOLVEMENT and gave reason for roleblocking everyone, get the worst one out of the way sooner rather than later.
In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote: 2. Why are you afraid of dying whatsoever? You will get copped by bell and show up green, so you are in no danger of being limmed. You will be in no danger of dying during the night since you can self-protect.
Self protecting REMOVES ME FROM THE GAME. I can't just vanish for one night, I have to vanish for multiple phases.
In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote:
Clearly you want to avoid the arena, which should IC you if you're town and show us whether Oil is required to scumside. Thus you are not town.
Yes, and I wanted to as soon as I saw oils claim because I know I can prevent all NKs tonight. Oil is survivor and I'm their best damn shot at surviving.
Without me, they, cannot, win.
In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote:
Your logic in your post is also once again wrong. If Oil uses the town-sided action, why would they then turn into scum's best target as a claimed 3P vanilla over an OP protective????? If Oil doesn't use the town-sided action (which they fucking won't because WHY WOULD THEY IT DOESNT HELP THEIR WINCON), scum still does not kill them because the same logic will keep on applying (much less over a god-doc). OR, scum could just shoot the claimed fucking investigative and avoid this shit altogether. This is literally moonlogic that you keep repeating
I don't go in the arena, you do. We Elim you.
I protect Bell.
Oil uses Positive report.
-Nobody dies.
Oil decides "nah fuck this".
-Me or Oil die.

Oil is now fucked. Bell can still investigate someone else, or 2 people if you're ballsy enough.
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