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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:28 pm

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Votecount 1.7

Chara(4)
~ (55), (35), (55), (146)

Venus Mars and Pluto(2)
~ (110), (23)
unwnd(2)
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Gamma Emerald(2)
~ (14), (50)
Firebringer(1)
~ (36), (207)
Dannflor(1)
~ (74)
chkflip(1)
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Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(8), Xtoxm(0), Ydrasse(125), Gamma Emerald(23), Flavor Leaf(136)

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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:28 pm

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In post 1447, Starcrossed wrote:
In post 1446, skitter30 wrote:also starcrossed i think catboi is town
this is exactly why Hectic drafted him

so stealthy even skitter can't see his evil fangs
Both Titus and you think CB is scum, can you explain why? I don’t have much experience with them.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:32 pm

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In post 1448, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 107, Dannflor wrote:
In post 98, RCEnigma wrote:But in true cat fashion they bit the hand that feeds q.q
I don't understand understand this part or why you ended up flipping the read
In post 108, Dannflor wrote:understand understand understand
In post 127, Dannflor wrote:yknow I like the crackpot theory from RCE
I think Dann is probably town, another reason why I like RCE’s read on Titus.
You were expressing that you think there's scum in the early mini-wagon on Gamma, if you don't think it's Dann, who do you think it is? None of those posts look particularly townie to me.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:35 pm

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In post 1346, chkflip wrote:WHY MENTION ROLE IF YOU ARE NOT MILLER

YOU ARE SCUM OR YOU DO SCUMS JOB

YOU CAN GO NOW
Okay, I missed this. This isn’t AI to claim you don’t like your role.
In post 1354, chkflip wrote:I DON'T DO THIS AS SCUM AGAIN IS THE WINE YOU HAVE NO ACTUAL ARGUMENT
This is the part you know is not scum indicative for me.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 1452, catboi wrote:
In post 1448, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 107, Dannflor wrote:
In post 98, RCEnigma wrote:But in true cat fashion they bit the hand that feeds q.q
I don't understand understand this part or why you ended up flipping the read
In post 108, Dannflor wrote:understand understand understand
In post 127, Dannflor wrote:yknow I like the crackpot theory from RCE
I think Dann is probably town, another reason why I like RCE’s read on Titus.
You were expressing that you think there's scum in the early mini-wagon on Gamma, if you don't think it's Dann, who do you think it is? None of those posts look particularly townie to me.
It looks like he’s seriously considering what RCE said.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:52 pm

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Okay? That doesn't answer my question about the gamma votes.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:11 pm

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In post 1164, Flavor Leaf wrote:I've got Ydrasse, Unwnd, Skitter, Starcrossed as town so far.
im reading thru

Unwnd/Ydrasse/Skitts are probably my favourite town so far, i added Ydrasse cause i dont know if she's capable of faking this angry with Hectic gimmick all game among being really similiar to the other Versus and not like her scum game
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In post 499, Ydrasse wrote:Chara is noty scum.
Ydrasse why is this the only post I can really sense as content from your ISO
100+ posts and only one that feels like it might be a real-deal read vs. just reading someone off of likability or whatnot
Essentially thisi s why she's town lol
In post 1171, chkflip wrote:AM FECKIN MILLER JABRONI
i had a sneaking suspicion there'd be more. just a basic miller this time, then?

The Gamma wagon early wasn't bad but i do agree he's probably not scum both by virtue of draft and prolly gameplay so far.
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(@ Skitts)
Chara and RCE are all good but you townread Tweetie here?
YOU TOO?
In post 1253, Chara wrote:searching for scum within the Gamma votes feels like it has the same odds as searching for scum outside the Gamma votes.
I don't get the point of searching for scum specifically within the first RVS wagon w/ 4 ppl but i would say that, being in it, wouldn't i

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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:14 pm

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Tired of waiting for Xtoxm, it's not super important to wait anyway

I'm an Ascetic Miller


i just wanted to see if somebody claimed that exact role before me, but looks like each miller has their own distinct flavour

Also, i have questions for what implications my role has on the setup, but of course there is an "unusually large number of red herrings". Obviously though you see why my role is a bit off
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:24 pm

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lul just cause it's not worthwhile to assume a set number of scum in Gamma wagon doesn't mean it's all town, i just do not think there's a reason to believe there are extra chances for scum to be on it

Sure Dannflor could be scum i wouldnt know yet, unwnd lean against that, Starcrossed dont know
In post 1318, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:Chara’s probably town for not jumping on me. Scum is on one or both Gamma’s or my wagon. Fucking bank on it!
My vote on Gamma doesnt mean anything right now so again that's very arbitrary
In post 1321, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:VOTE: Skitter

No way you still think I’m scum here.
This and everything that comes after this is hard for me to parse, basically you're saying that people voting you is vindication for your claim that there is one scum on the Gamma wagon. i dont exactly think thats a thought unique to you, that was probably getting said all the way back at the time of the wagon itself. pretty sure you're getting voted more for heads having low presence or smth along those lines
In post 1342, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 1337, unwnd wrote:
In post 1225, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 194, Morning Tweet wrote:hia Ydrasse hi Gamma hi Nancy hi Auro hi Titus hi Xtoxm hi Pooky & Kanna hi Hoppy hi chkflip hi Dannflor hi again Fire! hi skitts hi unwnd hi catboi and Chara! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is stacked!

I have several things wrong with my role and it also actually contradicts itself. I would say that this basically makes me informed of something but also apparently there's a ton of red herrings.

Oh and hi Flavour and hi Hectic

VOTE: Ydrasse
Oh hi missed this. I can relate I kind’ve got a shit role too. :/
Whoever made this post? Yeah I didn't like it so I voted. Such a weird way to try and connect with someone based on what the town seemed to be discussing at the time. You probably looked at the thread and thought 'oh everyone is claiming miller and shit roles' and decided to lead with this of all things lol

The whole Gamma conspiracy thing is just icing to the cake
Yeah it was me and not having a role I don’t like doesn’t make me scum. I thought you were better than this.
That's not related to what unwnd is saying at all

Nancy is probably town IF i am any good at reading her. I think pretty much everything ive read from her involves her thinking something is overly related to herself.. if that makes sense. Like thinking that gaining votes confirms her suspicion that there's 1 scum on the Gamma wagon somehow doesn't make sense but i could buy her thinking that

Played with Nancy scum once and she didn't really start doing this until much later, early on i think she was more reasonable. Also i guess i feel like there are actually a ton of bad roles in this game which makes me think slightly more likely she has one than thought to lie about it. There's my take for you
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:25 pm

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I don't have time to read 60 pages per day. I'll read from page 50 in addition to what I've already read (about 15-20 pages). If there's important stuff I have to read I can read specific things. If that's not good enough I can sit out for a replacement, however I'd like to keep my commitment to this game by seeing it through.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:31 pm

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Anyone wanna throw me a good old old-fashioned case (doesn't have to be very long) on why Chara is obvscum because I really don't see it?
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:32 pm

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In post 1362, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1359, unwnd wrote:Just whether or not someone is scumreading/townreading them

Why am I supposed to think that's town
she does this as both alignments, it's not ai
True although it took like 2 years to happen in my one scum game w/ her whereas i think this is more what I'm familiar with in every town game ive seen from nancy. It's probably not impossible to fake i guess, but also the terrible role thing makes me confirm biased. i think the simpler answer is Nancy is town

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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:12 pm

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As a general rule reminder, please keep thoughts about whether you need to replace out, or may need to replace out, out of the game thread. This is not a specific warning, just a reminder for everyone. I do appreciate that this game moved very fast and people are free to vent about the pace if they need to.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:13 pm

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500+ posts were pretty much about anime so the pace is fine imo
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 1457, Morning Tweet wrote:Tired of waiting for Xtoxm, it's not super important to wait anyway

I'm an Ascetic Miller


i just wanted to see if somebody claimed that exact role before me, but looks like each miller has their own distinct flavour

Also, i have questions for what implications my role has on the setup, but of course there is an "unusually large number of red herrings". Obviously though you see why my role is a bit off
I actually believe this. Like in last game, it makes no sense to make this up. God only knows why Krazy gives you this role though.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 1423, Starcrossed wrote:i'm actually super easy to read :3
Tell us how please then.
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:24 pm

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In post 1455, catboi wrote:Okay? That doesn't answer my question about the gamma votes.
I may be wrong on that unless I’m incorrectly reading someone. Hectic knows me really well and he could be telling his team to pocket me because he knows I eat up pockets.

@CB I suppose it’s possible I’m wrongly tr Dann for that. I just don’t see what you find particularly scummy about his posting?
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:26 pm

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In post 1417, Starcrossed wrote:Flavor Leaf I already solved your game

the bad guys are:

catboi chara tweetie and um I didnt find the 4th one but they should concede after we elim the first 3
I think this makes Starcrossed Town.

This game is very hard to read from page 50 since it's a lot of deep meta being thrown around. I'm a bit lost. That said, I think the astronomy hydra is Town. Also think that unwnd is Town.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:33 pm

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Ydrasse is Town too.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 1459, Lunar Martian wrote:I don't have time to read 60 pages per day. I'll read from page 50 in addition to what I've already read (about 15-20 pages). If there's important stuff I have to read I can read specific things. If that's not good enough I can sit out for a replacement, however I'd like to keep my commitment to this game by seeing it through.
dude nobody has the time to read everything that's posted.

just read the last 3 pages and interact it's fine

nothing important actually happened yet
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:35 pm

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In post 1465, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1423, Starcrossed wrote:i'm actually super easy to read :3
Tell us how please then.
if I'm post count #1

I'm like town 100% of the time.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:36 pm

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Dannflor Jan 16, 07:18pm Jan 16, 08:46pm 1 day 0 hours 14

this is probly scum if I'm wrong about Catboi
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:57 pm

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In post 1263, Chara wrote:
In post 1243, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1240, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1233, skitter30 wrote:ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem

VOTE: chara
bad vote
that's the one slot I have sorted out of those and I TR it
i'm not sure i vibe that rn :/
i'm controversial!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamma what prompted the TR, anyway?

also curious why Nancy(?) scumreads me. :< and RCE!

Starcrossed hasn't really been readable yet in my opinion, i am not sure why they're on so many lists. i guess i don't really TR them, but i also don't SR them at all.
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But srsly you give off a wholesome vibe that for some reason makes you towny. I think that’s why I felt out Ydrasse’s TR on you as a “real read” during that ISO skim
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:00 pm

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In post 1269, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 1263, Chara wrote:
In post 1243, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1240, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1233, skitter30 wrote:ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem

VOTE: chara
bad vote
that's the one slot I have sorted out of those and I TR it
i'm not sure i vibe that rn :/
i'm controversial!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamma what prompted the TR, anyway?

also curious why Nancy(?) scumreads me. :< and RCE!

Starcrossed hasn't really been readable yet in my opinion, i am not sure why they're on so many lists. i guess i don't really TR them, but i also don't SR them at all.
I would rather vote one of the Gamma voters > you.
I honestly agree with chara that it doesn’t seem like any of the voters on me seem +scum off that
Dann did ping me but not for the vote iirc
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:02 pm

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In post 1273, Flavor Leaf wrote:Honestly, we're going to be here for days still in Day 1, let's ride it at least 5 days through, then start settling onto one of those 3. If anything major happens, we can switch of course, but I'm going to be watching for big action around that time.

I'm not too worried about misfading on Day 1, tbh. It usually works out in the favor when I misfade because it lets me see who was working me, and in this game, scum are obviously going to try to work me.
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