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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:04 am

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*they

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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 1767, bugspray wrote:I don't think so. I asked him to clear me in the hood last night and it seemed like he was trying to avoid saying no
the more i think the more it's him
VOTE: galron
@bugs
don’t try to do setup spec without actually knowing my role lol
IF my role didn’t fit, I would have been the first one to sus galron
his claim works
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:52 am

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and I ended up town-reading bugs
.......oh hey.

I placed all of the notes I made when looking through their ISO in the spoiler below. Honestly, I’m not 100% confident in reading them... I’ve seen scum fake tells like those but still, that’s not anything I’d want to lynch for today.

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:)
In post 274, bugspray wrote:after my rice is done and I'm no longer distracteed by the physical sensation of hunter I will do a reread and talk about opinions
IIOA
In post 282, bugspray wrote:grendel is town as fuck
like is just so reasonable
he does some questioning with a pagetop that's worded in such an effective way. he asks questions that would cearly provoke different asnwers from town or scum and his paranoia is super healthy

also implies that they are definitely neighbors or maybe masons. i don't think scum would make the kind of associative posts they are

apparently i thought grendel looked really town on page 7

amelie is scummy

i think galron's posting is towning especailly

VOTE: amelie
townie confidence
In post 289, bugspray wrote:and you can't just say them for other people to see and talk about?
you're on my wagon
In post 291, bugspray wrote:what does that even mean?
unconcerned reactions to pressure. Doesn’t seem to be in his frozen state like in the scum games I’ve read
(reminder, he seemed to have a tendency to react to pressure with stuff that basically all could be translated to “wtf”, “jeez man”, “what?”. Please look through his meta to confirm this if you want to. From what I’ve seen although there aren’t any big differences, bugs isn’t the greatest scum player :/)
In post 409, bugspray wrote:that meta is trash
In post 411, bugspray wrote:
In post 410, NoPowerOverMe wrote:have you read it?
the burden of work for that trash meta is on you i'm not going to, go read some game
honestly, now that I read it, this seems more town-indicative to me as well

Bugs pretty much admitted to not reading luca’s case.
Luca yelling at him so much and bugs replying only with “lol, your result is wrong so I don’t care” seems more townie than not imo.
In post 411, bugspray wrote:
In post 410, NoPowerOverMe wrote:have you read it?
the burden of work for that trash meta is on you i'm not going to, go read some game
and this response was basically:
“no, why would I want to read it lol. Read some of my games and check it yourself. It’s wrong so it has to be trash”

“read my meta and check it lol”
btw, IF bugs is scum, he’d know that luca’s meta read on him has to be accurate. Instantly asking people to check it themselves would be............. either genius or really darn stupid
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In post 457, NoPowerOverMe wrote:The reason I keep on bringing up the townblock is that it is annoying to scum.
actually, it's just annoying
another good response imo.
“it’s annoying to scum”
“no lol, it’s annoying to me too”

Not being afraid of saying his opinion (despite it being called a scum thing) and despite this being written after luca posted his case (and bugs was already was under pressure), is slightly townie.
In post 462, bugspray wrote:im very scared of Luca because I can't read him and remember him rolling scum one time and believing he looked exactly like town!Luca and trying to elim me at any time is usually not very controversial (meta me if you're into that) and neither is wanting to elim lunar which makes me very :(

npim here is reminding me increasingly of town!formerfish
lamist lol
probably one of his worst posts
In post 445, bugspray wrote:seems inconsistent with your previous post that you thought scum was jealous about not being into the townblock. why would amelie feel the need to force herself in if there's already scum in the proverbial bloc?
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In post 487, Grendel wrote:
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Would a heroic
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I want to hear your thoughts on more players BugSpray. Help me out?
Basically I don't have any practical experience with lots of the slots and it's hard to read newbs because you can tell what posts of theirs are ai but figuring out which alignment they are is difficult

I am bug spray. If you look at my avatar you will see that it is spraying bugs. If bugs are eating a townie and they aren't mine then I would be forced to basically beat the shit out of the townie by swatting all of the bugs on them which is a pretty scary idea.

Going to look at the npom partner equities because I feel like there was two or three people other then npom saying "no please get off the wagon" and it can be easily that one of them was town and the other two/1 exist as partners
ignoring the pressure on him and memeing + just simply trying to solve, could imply that bugs really didn’t give a crap about what luca thought of him.
Not feeling any sort of pressure to defend himself and just trying to solve the game is a townie thing to do imo
In post 555, bugspray wrote:sounds good VOTE: lunar martian
that's l-1
bad vote
In post 559, bugspray wrote:also why not hammer if you think it will flip red?
normal question to ask for a townie but ffs
In post 560, bugspray wrote: looks like it's coming from scum!luca who KNOWS that it's going to flip red and is trying to make it look like i'm the one who is actually going to bus
...trying to accuse someone based on their SvS interactions with a townie seems more likely to come from town than scum
(the read is either.... emotionally good and kinda clever or just comes from a lack of TMI.)
In post 843, bugspray wrote:i'm a backup neighbor lemme quote the crumb/soft
In post 844, bugspray wrote:
In post 37, bugspray wrote:Frogster why is your ocean test better than rvs and why didn't you link us all the same one and also post your results?
NPOM and Galren might be beside one another in this wagon and I'm here to back them up
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In post 845, Amélie wrote:
In post 843, bugspray wrote:i'm a backup neighbor lemme quote the crumb/soft
I have not read up but is this role confirmed to be town like a mason or can it be scum?
it can be scum but i seriously doubt that there isn't some other town power that can confirm me tonight
“yeah, yeah, just cop check me and let’s get this over with”

how is bugs getting scum-read lmao
In post 1677, bugspray wrote:sorry been brain sad a few days gonna play chess and maybe read this topic later
VOTE: luca
will reread to check if galron is scum because apparently the three original members of the hood are all tpr and also there was grendel so it seems like scum must have some serious shit or someone is lying
his sudden pop-in a few days ago was the first strictly scummy thing I’ve seen in his iso.
Voting luca there could be just a crappy way of ensuring that he survives.
Bugs clearly didn’t have any reason to vote there and is likely just sheeping me to survive
In post 1723, bugspray wrote:i don't get how flip lm to clear me is tmi
there's two outcomes
1) lm flips town and that clears me but I don't remember why
2) lm flips scum and we get a scum elim
it's win win because with me proven green we have a very good poe pool for yeetlo and can sinch a town win
ok, I changed my mind lmao... bugs was lazy and thought that they’d get a town-clear or a scum lynch no matter what... so from his pov the vote made sense, even if it was just a sheep
it’s just dumb
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:10 am

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In post 1759, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1756, Galron wrote:
You can figure out why I claimed and the timing of the claim if you try hard enough.
So again you're being cagey as to your motives. I can see a possible Town and scum motivation for revealing your supposed role N1, and right now the scum motivation seems to make more sense.

As Town, it would be foolhardy to put your trust into the hood when you could be roleblocked/killed if one of them is scum, and it could also lead to a false positive, given you were widely TR D1 and could have have been targeted by scum anyway even if the hood was pure.

As scum, you want to pocket the hood and build trust. 'Confirming' an already Townblocked player is a small price to pay for that.
LOL
no way
no way

how often does scum claim D1 to “build trust”, without any sort of info about the setup
and NPOM was not lock-town
besides, galron asked for check suggestions. I don’t think anyone answered (which is why he ended up choosing what he chose) but it’s not like he claimed and just ended there
I think he did say that he’ll check NPOM before the night ended as well so if amelie or trendal wanted to change the check, they could have.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:12 am

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In post 1766, Luca Blight wrote:Surely Galron has to reveal his supposed N2 result?
stop scum-reading town, pretty please :)
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:35 am

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alrighty then VOTE: luca
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 1775, ejjinami wrote:*they

...right
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you do this and then your big iso post about how im conftown just calls me he every single time it's exhausting
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:42 am

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I never said you’re conftown lmao, neither did I call you a strong town-read
just not scum.
sorry for using the wrong pronouns tho
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:42 am

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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:53 am

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In post 1727, Datisi wrote:
Votecount 3.6

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~ (5), (31), (66), (42)

Luca Blight(3)
~ (81), (26), (4)


Not Voting (2): (39), joqiza(39)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-22 18:03:48)
this vote count should be correct again
you’re at L-1
luca is nowhere close to getting lynched
and I have to go afk for a while again so the fastest you’ll get a case on him is in 4-5 hours
(it’s not like it’s confirmed that I’ll end up scum-reading him again anyway)
(tho I kinda hope that’ll be the case... otherwise I’ll probably end up being completely lost lol)
(I promise not to tunnel.)
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:57 am

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Votecount 3.7

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Luca Blight(3)
~ (93), (8), (38)


Not Voting (2): (41), joqiza(41)

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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:05 am

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In post 1769, ejjinami wrote:I’ll fail the challenge xD
I noticed a new thing about myself. Apparently I have a big tendency to avoid problems...
aaaaaaaaaand I might have a tendency to defend myself with “no I’m right, you’re dumb.” type of arguments when angry
which is kinda toxic. I don’t know how to deal with it yet but I’ll try to fix it somehow.

The conversation about lunar kinda broke me
I just kept running away for 2 days because I didn’t want to read anything more about that, which would cause me to have to argue more and get more frustrated

that’s not a perfect attitude to play FM.

but anyway, I’m back. I can’t say that I’m over it because I’m not. I will likely break down and try to escape again if I have to argue about it more so lemme just ignore it fn.

I could have worked on casing bugs/luca while I was basically avoiding the thread but my brain didn’t want to accept that I’d have to read the new posts then, sooooooo here we are

(I still didn’t btw xD)
(it’s kinda silly how this works but w/e)

lemme just focus on what I want to do. (yes, writing the cases that I’m already a week late with is included there. if you want to hammer before that, I won’t argue. if I manage to write it, it’s good. If not, I guess not. I already failed pretty badly so I don’t really have a right to complain here. Let’s just play)
I feel ya, dude
I haven't been paying good attention, did frogster do his thing with me and ejji?
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:13 am

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I don’t think so
but I think it should be pretty obvious that my test results can’t be accurate anyway
agreeableness- 1/100 .....in this game I might be living up to it but that’s generally not the case... Unless I’m talking about my lock-town reads, I’m paranoid as heck
carefulness- 1/100.... LOL.
Openness- 26/100..... I should have gotten at least 70 imo, probably 80
Extraversion- 33/100.... eh, that one could be somewhat accurate? if I were to guess it’d be around 45???? but w/e, good enough

why do you want to hear the result of this read on yourself tho?
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:22 am

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I moreso meant his comparison of ours and why it caused us to conflict
but I think your post I quoted might explain it just as well, and I'm willing to go with that

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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:36 am

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I wanted to make a case on luca and figure out my vote lol
but w/e, that’s the hammer. Let’s just wait then
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:48 am

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Votecount 3.Elimination

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-- HAMMER
Luca Blight(3)
~ (95), (8), (38)


Not Voting (1): joqiza(41)

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Night 3 Action deadline in (expired on 2021-01-20 16:49:31)
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:33 pm

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Galron has been killed last night! He was a:
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:40 pm

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Votecount 4.1



Not Voting (7): ejjinami(0), OutWorldER(0), Gamma Emerald(0), Lunar Martian(0), joqiza(0), Frogsterking(0), Luca Blight(0)

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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:50 pm

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Bah!
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:58 pm

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I think we should mass claim. In the meantime, VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:12 pm

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VOTE: eijinami

defended bugs really hard and that iso-analysis was trash. I think when eiji replaced into this game they knew their slot and team were going down hard and were desperately trying to salvage it.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:46 pm

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eijinami needs to claim and give any reports they have to share, for sure. gamma can act as a fact-check.

@gamma you're able to see stuff in the hood from before you were added right? or can you only see stuff after?

did Galron have a second report, or was he roleblocked? I didn't see him specify.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:11 pm

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VOTE: Lunar

The Galron kill is definitely more incriminating on-wagon and outside the neighborhood, as Galron was 100% fully pocketed by the hood dynamic of this game.

I believe there is an optimal order to claiming and Lunar should go first. Beyond that I'm not sure.

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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:40 pm

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In post 1789, ejjinami wrote:I wanted to make a case on luca and figure out my vote lol
but w/e, that’s the hammer. Let’s just wait then
It's extremely important IMO that you reconstruct this case as it was to the best of your ability. It will be helpful for slots like OutWorldER in sorting you and in the off-chance that Luca bussed Bugs.
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