TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[OkaPoka]

man this amount of mindmeld with hopkirk is concerning stuff

[Almost50]

@ABR: Thank you

FWIW, my reads are volatile and keep changing rapidly, so I will provide a preliminary read list (or something that resembles one) once I've decided on a number of slots So far I only have 2 solid TRs

@Oka: I said there was a

reason

for me to ask. And yes, I feel that I gave been very transparently town indeed, but only those who know me well enough will be able to realize it. There is also a reason why I am playing like this, but that's another story.

Whew boy this post

stinks

.

My bad. I stuffed into the washing machine and forgot to add the detergent.

[DrippingGoofball]

dgb is definitely faking reads

No sir

I iso'd all your asses

[OkaPoka]

why did you flip on me n hercule?

[Almost50]

congrats A50 gypyx thinks you’re town

Nice. Keep them TRs coming.

@AGar: How's THAT for a "stinking" post/response?

[Almost50]

@Dunn: You are also the one most familiar with me in your team, but it won't hurt to know what the others think too

I don't really have a read on you though. I feel that asking my team what they think of you is a waste of team-resources; especially since this is pretty out of the blue. I'm unlikely to vote for you on day 1.

A bit disappointing, but I like the honest/sincere tone.

[hercule]

k next up we have

Spoiler: Albert B. Rampage

intro is fine

I did mindmeld on 290 in real-time, since 287 felt like a non-sequitur. in context of the ISO it's a bit weird as their first serious content of the game

going through, 125, 151, 368, 514 (though i suppose there is backstory to this) are all filler, which is fine at beginning of game but it was bulk of his content

657 don't have too much of a problem with this considering it was before Agar re-evaluated the game

658 not the worst reads list

689 omg I never clicked on this link but it's his own wiki article i-

hold please

700 my interaction here. it's hard for me because I think ABR's straightforwardness comes across towny but his lack of in-depth analysis prevents me from getting a good grasp on what's going on in his mind, and I think that's an intended effect by him regardless of alignment

verdict: can't justify slotting this anywhere but null.

Spoiler: Almost50

entrance is fine. though idk if 105 is an inside joke, not sure what to make of telling certain ppl to vote them, possibly counteracting ppl he thinks can metaread him? or as town thinks they will misread him (well obvi thats what he is trying to IMPLY)

109 ironic seeing this after reading ABR's "rule of 3"

111, 112 (half filler half serious?), 114, 116, 118, 122, 124 i- ok I can't even keep quoting them---

pretty much all filler to start, and comments 135 at their post count, which is... inflated by filler

alright, so I can excuse that, the game had just started. they come back in at 618

side note, they quoted 181 here and I remember petapan disliking Winter's vote there. I can kind of see that considering yeah sure he was posting empty content but is that really AI at that point

619 feels like a weak discredit of a teammate read

622 decent callout of DGB, 453 did feel a bit useless

starts engaging with the game 737 through requesting teammate reads on the slot.

859 i don't really like this. he's like, telegraphing what he wants from each team, wouldn't that poison the results when the teammates of scumplayers could just tailor their reads to this blueprint. this is something i've seen from scum before where they think of a "towny gambit" and then blow their load by letting slip what they were "looking for" in advance, whereas I think town prefers to play it close to the chest

then again, on second thought, it is kind of a bold play to basically dare ~51 people who know you to give ur slot scrutiny. maybe I townlean it, it's not like he gave away exactly what he was expecting.

928 mmm like I can vibe with this mindset, I think it's taking a bit of a backseat approach to scumhunting though. Reading people through their reads on you can be revealing, but it shouldn't be the entirety of your scumhunting efforts

Julia (Super) and petapan both liked A50 asking for reads on their slot, I think I agree, just need to see them follow through and actually generate reads from it.

verdict: wait and see. there has to be an endpoint to this approach he has taken regarding getting all these reads on him. null for now, but willing to townread.

Spoiler: Cephrir

spf's reads:

- liked the intro, didn't feel they were vying for thread positioning but rather approaching the game from a solving perspective and had some well-considered observations.
- pinged by 776 because it felt like an "obligatory reads list", with some fairly generic reasoning and vibereads
- worried that TR on my slot is possible TMI, but liked that they still called me out for smth pinging them (i think the LOL comment), said it would be a bit counterproductive for scum!cephrir to do this if the intention was to pocket me (idk if this is that town indicative, scum would want to keep their options open)
- thought the conviction behind the push on Agar felt sincere, only thing that pinged her was that Cephrir seemed to piggyback off the reasoning someone else had given (i don't remember this, I'll look out for it in my ISO)

now me:

intro is fine, seems natural

395 maybe a bit over-explainy as to why they are posting more? otherwise fine

like how they pretty much just dive into scumhunting: 395, 399, 400, 405, 420, 421 - unafraid to take stances in a large game where there's no need to draw attention to yourself as scum

i like 426 (i'm biased) but

why

did you like our reactions?

497 vibes with my mindset

510 seems overly dramatic to me in hindsight and having read Agar's ISO. I feel like "new york's hottest scumpost" is making it out to be scummier than it is, though I understand the SR

also here's what spf was pinged by, i see it now, "i don't know if i'd have been bothered by this if unwnd didn't point it out" mmm idk if that's scummy, it seems fairly matter-of-fact. maybe some slight trends of over-explaining

i like their tone, they seem like they're having fun in general

agree with 527 and that's about exactly how I felt about A50 at that point of the game

561 is a perfectly reasonable response to Agar. "The idea that I have built a master plan to frame you specifically is pretty hard to swallow as a real thought" is something I felt as well

"Great, so why not say that instead of calling me scum for not reading your mind?" another good line

decent townreads fmpov at 776

781 side note i don't think they have come across grumpy, ah nvm i think this was jokes about the avi lmao

846 mmm yeah kind of agree but also I think their analysis came across as genuine

850 agreed and I had the same thought

869 another mindmeld, it's getting kind of concerning LOL

890 same

1067 honestly can't even complain about this because Super always says the same thing

verdict: townread. I feel like they're direct, unafraid, and constantly showing signs of thought process that makes sense to me. if they were tryna pocket me as spf posited, well, mission accomplished LOL

ok here's 3 more. TL;DR for these is:

ABR: pure null

A50: null-leaning-town, wait and see. tbh I see they are active in the thread right now responding to people's reads on them so I wonder if I won't be able to sort them sooner rather than later

Cephrir: town

[hercule]

prob not gonna ISO anyone else today but we will indeed sort this playerlist yes we will. vibing in the thread time who up

[OkaPoka]

ur secret admirer says u were being cheeky with that lowkey scumtell

[hercule]

I think it's kind of funny that Titus started posting a lot after I was like "let's let them contribute some"

at least they acknowledge they were unimpressive leading up to this point

[hercule]

ur secret admirer says u were being cheeky with that lowkey scumtell

are they expecting me to know what that means

[unwnd]

Hercule you don't need to give me an ISO but could you give me your townreads? Long or shortform is fine

[OkaPoka]

ur secret admirer says u were being cheeky with that lowkey scumtell

are they expecting me to know what that means

well they said you did it on purpose so im testing that hypothesis

[hercule]

ur secret admirer says u were being cheeky with that lowkey scumtell

are they expecting me to know what that means

well they said you did it on purpose so im testing that hypothesis

genuinely not sure what you're referring to, i'm not gonna scumtell on purpose to bait people in a game where I don't know anyone. but I do like that they think i'm so powerful as to do so

[hercule]

Hercule you don't need to give me an ISO but could you give me your townreads? Long or shortform is fine

sure, so far, of the people I've ISO'd (and therefore am most confident of): Cephrir and Agar

of the people I haven't: Dannflor (but this was early game and needs to be re-evaluated, my gut feeling is they have dropped off some), hopkirk, okapoka, innocentvillager

to a lesser extent: xtoxm, ythan, maybe the worst, maybe unwnd

[DrippingGoofball]

why did you flip on me n hercule?

Don't be confusing RVS BS'ing with real reads.

[OkaPoka]

why did you flip on me n hercule?

Don't be confusing RVS BS'ing with real reads.

tonally it feels like you have the same mindset as you had in RVS u know?

the presentation of your reads feel entirely random etc.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hercule you don't need to give me an ISO but could you give me your townreads? Long or shortform is fine

sure, so far, of the people I've ISO'd (and therefore am most confident of): Cephrir and Agar

of the people I haven't: Dannflor (but this was early game and needs to be re-evaluated, my gut feeling is they have dropped off some), hopkirk, okapoka, innocentvillager

to a lesser extent: xtoxm, ythan, maybe the worst, maybe unwnd

Can you take a look at Xtomx and Ythan, first? It shouldn't take too long.

[Titus]

I think it's kind of funny that Titus started posting a lot after I was like "let's let them contribute some"

at least they acknowledge they were unimpressive leading up to this point

Yes. The situation is that I am flat out overgamed. I am going to do the best I can in each one, but I am giving less of my attentipn to the slower moving ones because I can catch up easier.

I haven't even touched the other teammates games.

[DrippingGoofball]

why did you flip on me n hercule?

Don't be confusing RVS BS'ing with real reads.

tonally it feels like you have the same mindset as you had in RVS u know?

the presentation of your reads feel entirely random etc.

I've always done that, this is the first time I get a complaint.

If you have questions, ask away, there are reasons behind every placement.

[hercule]

why did you flip on me n hercule?

Don't be confusing RVS BS'ing with real reads.

i want to believe you so badly that you were just fucking around, it makes sense to me, but it would also be the perfect thing to say to disarm my fos on you... not to mention you watching me agonize over whether you were being serious or not and saying NOTHING you absolute menace!!! i can't with u rn lmaoo

[OkaPoka]

why did you flip on me n hercule?

Don't be confusing RVS BS'ing with real reads.

tonally it feels like you have the same mindset as you had in RVS u know?

the presentation of your reads feel entirely random etc.

I've always done that, this is the first time I get a complaint.

If you have questions, ask away, there are reasons behind every placement.

now i only played epilogue (dance) with you but i dont recall you doing the readslist in dance

maybe im mistaken though

[hercule]

Hercule you don't need to give me an ISO but could you give me your townreads? Long or shortform is fine

sure, so far, of the people I've ISO'd (and therefore am most confident of): Cephrir and Agar

of the people I haven't: Dannflor (but this was early game and needs to be re-evaluated, my gut feeling is they have dropped off some), hopkirk, okapoka, innocentvillager

to a lesser extent: xtoxm, ythan, maybe the worst, maybe unwnd

Can you take a look at Xtomx and Ythan, first? It shouldn't take too long.

oh sure, what the hell, let's do 2 more ISOs while i'm in a good mood

[hercule]

I think it's kind of funny that Titus started posting a lot after I was like "let's let them contribute some"

at least they acknowledge they were unimpressive leading up to this point

Yes. The situation is that I am flat out overgamed. I am going to do the best I can in each one, but I am giving less of my attentipn to the slower moving ones because I can catch up easier.

I haven't even touched the other teammates games.

sure, fair enough, i will treat is as NAI for now

[Albert B. Rampage]

thats a lot of work to say you dont have a read on me guys