Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

ya gamma im torn between Nancy playing to town meta but also that post making about zero sense to be asked in a hydra PT so whatever

Yeah, that post vibes to me as scum getting concerned about getting red checked
Like, obviously that not directly the case but think about how she said it. If you’re actually ascetic you should know what will happen if you get checked: it fails. I think the convoluted thought process is a sign she’s mafia.

Since when are you this bad at reading me?

This reaction does not give me faith in you

I’m not feeling well and if you’re going to talk to me like that I will just not engage with you until you get a clue.


You said I’m lying about being aesetic and I told you that you’re wrong and it can be proven that I’m telling the truth and I don’t want to deal with anyone who’s still thinks I’m a fucking liar, so for both our sakes, I suggest you don’t fucking talk to me for the rest of the game. Thanks.

jesus christ, you know what, fine, I guess I won't talk to you this game if every time I accuse you of anything in ANY game you start raging at me. emotions may get you townread but they won't get you liked.

I almost fainted yesterday and that yawning emoji kind’ve pissed me off. I’m not raging but it just seemed kind’ve insensitive to me. Like it really terrified me, so sorry if I’m not in the best frame of mind rn. Team Mafia only happens once a year, so it’s probably unlikely that would happen otherwise. I’m still not feeling well. Both Skittter and Tweetie expressed some concern about that but not only you did not but you posted that yawning thing and I guess since I’m still feeling not great, I may have over reacted to that.:/

[Starcrossed]

OKAY FLAVOR THANK YOU FOR THAT

SO LET US WAGER HEY

IF AM RIGHT, TOMORROW CHK V HECTIC IN HOW YOU SAY THE SPIRIT

IF AM WRONG I FOLLOW BLIND

YES

STOP TRYING TO USURP THE THRONE

I SIGNED UP FOR FLAVOR LEAF VS HECTIC NOT FLIPPY VS HECTIC

[Starcrossed]

I FORGOT TO SIGN AGAIN THIS IS A TRAGEDY

~TAKI

[Flavor Leaf]

OKAY FLAVOR THANK YOU FOR THAT

SO LET US WAGER HEY

IF AM RIGHT, TOMORROW CHK V HECTIC IN HOW YOU SAY THE SPIRIT

IF AM WRONG I FOLLOW BLIND

YES

I'd be willing to give that a spin.

[Ydrasse]

quick get the thread to page 100

[chkflip]

IS JUST BOWLSHET FLAVOR STILL STAMP

IS FUCKING FUN GAME AM JUST THE FOOLING

PFUCKINGEDIT: YES WE DO IT

STILL NOT VOTING THE DANTOWN

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

like, nancy, I'd honestly probably elim MT over you based on things I've seen so far but when the response I get for poking at you is "HOW FUCKING COULD YOU YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD" it makes playing with you a fucking chore

Look, I realize that my nearly fainting is no justification but yeah I probably misinterpreted that yawing emoji. I think had you not posted that, I wouldn’t have reacted like that. I did read that as kind’ve disrespectful and I think anyone might because it comes accross as dismissive.

I don’t want to elim Tweetie anymore. I think she’s town now. I don’t think she’s capable of that kind’ve of emotional honesty as scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

okay
I wasn't aware that was an issue you were dealing with
sorry I triggered that in you

[Ydrasse]

quick quick post post

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

like, nancy, I'd honestly probably elim MT over you based on things I've seen so far but when the response I get for poking at you is "HOW FUCKING COULD YOU YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD" it makes playing with you a fucking chore

this is not a nice thing to say Gamma

~Taki

It’s okay Pooky. <3. It isn’t Gamma’s fault that I have self-discipline problems, take on more than I can handle and my health suffers as a result of that. I’m feeling really shitty still and that’s probably affecting my response.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

okay
I wasn't aware that was an issue you were dealing with
sorry I triggered that in you

Yeah, I lost it on RC last year for the same reason.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Okay, let’s not rush this. Can someone post a link from Dann’s ISO in PA and compare it with this game? I think he seems differently here tonewise. I would have done it already if I was feeling better.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

And chk, once again you’re dead wrong about me but you obviously don’t gaf so whatever.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

yknow I town read RCE very early on for a bit of a silly reason but I don't think scum reading him for fluff posting is the way to go?

warning: the game of mafia generalizations incoming

but scum like to establish themselves as towny, they're kind of addicted to it, by doing whatever they think will get them town read by people. In some cases that is fluff posting, but for a lot of people that's solving (or pretending to solve). I've only played with RCE a few times but I don't think of them as a fluff posting user, so I would interpret any posting here that's more on the fluffy side to indicate some level of comfort in the game. In other words, he's not eager to get town read because he knows he's town.

Also I really do think the crackpot theory from earlier about the setup was vaguely towny just because it's so crazy I don't think scum literally ever spends effort thinking it up. It's exactly the type of thing town spends time pondering and I think skitter is wrong on thinking someone wouldn't actually consider or believe that. It's not a silly reason I standby it goddamnnit

I guess this really just boils down to a *tone* read but I think RCE has a towny tone and attacking him for fluff posting in what I feel like is a... fluffy game seems to be *not it* imo

I remembered liking this post initially. It looked like he was genuinely sorting here.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

unwnd, gun to head what is your read on the Venus/Pluto slot and why?

I feel like a lot of what you're doing around the slot is not very genuine? Like I understand people having personality clashes with the slot and not really understanding how they tend to function, but skitter has told you multiple times that Nancy's rather reactive reads aren't AI indicative for the slot, so your repeated efforts to try and get something else out the slot feel like busywork.

Like the quality of them not wanting to "talk about anything but themselves and how much they should be townread" is not a basis for a scum read on that slot, something skitter knows and has tried to tell you multiple times. The reason I'm so wary is Nancy is a very easy scum read to hold because of how reactive she can be to reads on her. I don't really get the sense from your prodding of the slot that you're trying to solve the slot by getting their opinions on other people.

Instead you're doing this LAMISTy thing where you tell them to solve and not worry about reads on them instead of like... actually digging deeper into your scum read on them?

If you haven't encountered this type of player before I understand having an aversion to the slot at first, but it seems like you're using a shallow first impression to push a scum read instead of going any number of levels deeper

Yeah I have no personal grievances with you at all

A vote on someone does not reflect their character or how much I like them

That goes for people that I

wouldn't

vote either

I think right now your argument is a bit scummy

like I can't really read posts like these as anything other than a LAMIST attempt at engaging Nancy because the focus seems to be on coming off looking *good* in the engagement

I don't see you trying to redirect the conversation in a way that'll actually get you to read Nancy better and you've clearly been given the information that engaging her in this way won't produce AI noises

VOTE: unwnd

I’m trusting my gut. I hard tr this slot and I once again like in PA doubted myself and got talked out of my read.

[catboi]

I don't really care what Dann was like in some other game, I think he's been scummy here. I also don't think that read on RCE makes much sense, it boils down to "he's town because he's not posting things to get townread" but that can just mean someone...hasn't been town

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=19042


Everyone read this and tell me if you think he sounds similar here.

[unwnd]

Man

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I don't really care what Dann was like in some other game, I think he's been scummy here. I also don't think that read on RCE makes much sense, it boils down to "he's town because he's not posting things to get townread" but that can just mean someone...hasn't been town

But read the tone in PA, he seems really slimy there. Ironically chk’s reads generally aren’t terrible except when it comes to me, there his reads totally suck ass.

[unwnd]

What sucks about my role is that if I reveal further information about it I just never die, making it worthless

Self-reminder to never use this shit in my own setup

[Flavor Leaf]

Finish the day, guys. Vote Dannfloor.

Like, Unwnd's never being faded today, what're you doing Venus

[Flavor Leaf]

quick get the thread to page 100

quick quick post post

really not helping my finish the day before page 100 goal one bit

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Well first off

Am I allowed to say that I think you're lying about your masons?

Why would you even make this post? You know FL is town stump, so accusing the town stump of lying is seriously antitown.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, I understand that, tbh

[Ydrasse]

quick get the thread to page 100

quick quick post post

really not helping my finish the day before page 100 goal one bit

f-forgive me for acting out ;-;