Newbie 2051: Iceland! - End!

[quiet]

That’s at least marginally useful.

Also flow vote Enchant please and put this day out of its misery.

[esotericzoomer]

I did preface it by saying it’s stupid as all hell.

But if it takes three more posts to satisfy our resident chaos god Flow here, then dammit I’ll fall on that blade.

If Enchnt were off limits, you’d want Fred, I assume?

If by offlimits you mean until F-3, I want fred only if enchant is eventually limmed

[esotericzoomer]

let me rephrase that a bit
if by offlimits you mean until f-3, then no

[quiet]

I meant just off limits today. Like who your second most scummy person is, not related to my mostly inflammatory really poor locktown play.

I think I’m going back to sleep, tired posting is just not the move.

[esotericzoomer]

then yeah i would

[floo]

Back to post, sorry for being inactive lately. I read through the thread up to this point.

If Enchant is Mafia, they are playing very poorly. The selfhammer drama is a wonderful gift for anyone (town or scum) who wants to push Enchant. Without it, Enchant would probably not be hammered soon, and would instead have several IRL days for themselves and their partner to redirect a wagon. My question throughout the drama has been, "where is Enchant's partner?" No player has taken Enchant's actions to draw attention to himself. And it is doubtful that a scumpartner would even let Enchant post insanity in the first place.

The only post that stood out to me as partner-indicating is

If I were to try to make a readlist of my own, I would definitely "screw" something too. Hence, my reads are very fluid with players that were more likely to be town to me turning into more likely to be scum and vice versa.

Right now, given what I have read, my guess of the scumteam is Salsabil Faria and quiet with a higher than random chance of being right. Random chance is (1/28). Odds of right to wrong are (1:27).

I'll assume that Fredrick is Enchant's scumpartner in this paragraph. Fredrick does not mention an Enchant read in this post or any other post so far post-drama, not even to analyze anything Enchant has done. At this time, Enchant is the most important read, but he has none (865), with an excuse of not having caught up (866). Instead, he redirects attention to two other scumreads but admits that there is a low chance of his reads being correct. So his strategy is to a) avoid discussing Enchant because any position in the Enchant drama will result in (eventual) suspicion, b) propose some other scumreads while admitting inconfidence to avoid angering his (town) scumreads or explaining his reads too far, and c) hope his partner's gambit and his own pivoting will allow them both to survive Day 1.

My point is not that Fredrick is likely Enchant's partner, but that if the two are scumpartners, Fredrick is pursuing a rational strategy. A desperation strategy is possible because the scumteam was in an awful position at the time, both members being widely scumread and the two most voted players.

I want an Enchant vote, even just for the information. But without the consent of other players, I can't risk selfhammer.

Finally, to Enchant. Yes, you are hurting town. Not because you are bad in the first place, but because your vision of yourself being bad has led you to make confusing and self-defeating plays. You did not try to self-hammer yourself because you really were a net negative at the time. You made yourself a net negative by trying to self-hammer. If there's one thing you can do for town, escape the loser mentality, then you will start contributing to the town.

[flow trap]

250th post (Almost 1/4th)

Yeah, I consent to an Enchant shot

[flow trap]

I'll give it a half hour then I'll vote

[floo]

I want to post my final reads for the day first. Give me an hour

[flow trap]

Can we compromise at 50 minutes?

[esotericzoomer]

Can we compromise at 50 minutes?

i hate you
vote please

[flow trap]

Ok VOTE: esotericzoomer

[esotericzoomer]

Ok VOTE: esotericzoomer

[flow trap]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'll stick with half an hour

Doesn't mean anyone else has to

[floo]

Stuff I thought up before but I want to post now. Not a full readlist because I don't have the time.

flow trap:

as I explained before. Nothing too scummy has gotten my attention, granted that I've mentally filtered out contradictory or silly statements. Seems sincere.

Salsabil Faria:

She has relied on incorrect assumptions in some of her reads that town has no reason to lie or hide their thoughts, but has not changed her beliefs even while some players have pointed out the mistake. I also get the feeling that she confuses long-paragraph or intelligent-sounding analyses for town. Is contributing to the town, but too often uses the aforementioned assumptions in her reads.

Enchant:

scumread right now per what I've written before.

esotericzoomer:

Complaining about flow trap feels more like scum defending town for towncred now. Absolute confidence in Enchant scumread also suspicious. Scumpool candidate.

Fredrick A Campbell:

Between the read pivoting and invalid read justifications as pointed out by other players. Lack of Enchant read, even "this player is unreadable," is concerning. Scummier if Enchant flips Mafia than Town as the most likely partner. (Unrelated, but keep in mind that Fredrick has gotten more suspicion for not posting reads than flow trap.)

I have not read enough of Prism, Spartan, or Quiet (safebet) yet to make an informed read.

[flow trap]

So I can end the round, right?

[floo]

Enchant unvoted themselves so at E-2 right?

[flow trap]

I'm going of post 975

[floo]

Yes, in 975 Enchant is at E-1, while self-voting. Self-unvote in 981

[flow trap]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well

VOTE: Enchant

[Enchant]

I was negative from start and it's kinda not my guilt. You will surprised how often it happens with me, with almost same result. So i know about what i talk.

It's not loser mentality, i just played badly. Admitting i played badly doesn't means i'm loser. I just understand how horrible things will later if you leave me. I die no matters what, and later is worse in this case.


P.S. Hammer me.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

[Enchant]

Well. That was interesting.

[quiet]

Glad we got floos take, even if partial, before a flip.

[Enchant]

Also, don't lose.

I want save my 100% winrate on this site.