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[tris]

i still think egix is town. and i think him defending koba is a sign of that. (assuming koba really is town)

[nopointinactingup]

i pushed them hard early off of something i could have easily ignored as scum.

I pushed them HARD and i only flipped my read cuz i felt they were frustrated town but i was wrong. Fun fucking fact: town can be wrong

You realize that's more scummy than towny right? Calling Cook town right from the start would be townier. My interpretation is you were trying some distancing move at first, then realized that Cook got more fire than you wanted and backed off and worked in the other direction.

And incredible u look at someone who pushed the momentum onto cook.

You were actively trying to derail it as I outlined in my previous post. You only came back in when you realized you couldn't convince Andres to look the other way.

Look.
You even acknowledged the way cook pushed and egged on esooa vs me was part of why he was scum which implies tvt there

Yes it's the rare point for why you might be town but under a mountain of evidence of your scum-ship with Cook.

hey doesn't matter. This is actuslly better for town cuz nopoint was hella scummy d1 and them being cleared here is good.

Lol wut, I was towny af D1. You seriously thought I was scum even after Cook flipped?

nopoint can we talk thru stuff later.

I think im valuable to town victory and i will get nightkilled at some point so u dont have to worry. If im around by lylo then heah thats def easy vote there and i would be surprised if i make it there. I feel ive played a much more obvtown game here than average bc of the toxic fight i got into early -> me rolling VT lines up with how hard i tried to be PR read.

Have you forgotten your D1 solve Nopoint/Jim/tris? You called scum town and called 3 nearly confirmed town scum. What makes you think scum-team would NK you with that kind of read.

All your "why would I XYZ are WIFOMs". You probably tried for some gambit because you think you were going to be lynched anyway today if you don't try something.

[nopointinactingup]

koba is clearly town

Two confirmed town is calling him scum so do you mind outlining the reason why you think this is the case?

[nopointinactingup]

i still think egix is town. and i think him defending koba is a sign of that. (assuming koba really is town)

I don't know if your assumption is solid at all.

[tris]

soon i will i have something i need to do first

[nopointinactingup]

Geraint has a decent chance of flipping scum, but I'm going to be NK tonight so I don't know why yall don't trust the read of two masons.

[bugspray]

wait why is the thread unlocked it says night one

Because I forgot to change it

[nopointinactingup]

It's D2 the mod just forgot to rename

[bugspray]

So my solve is Cook + dk + (Geraint/Egix). I'm pretty confident this is right.
VOTE: DKKoba

I mean I’m 100% here. I have it Cook + geraintm + (Egix/Koba) and everybody else shades of Town.

i definietyle rmemer seeing weird associatives of cook+grian in d1 and i think i took a few notes on it

[bugspray]

nopoint can we talk thru stuff later.

I think im valuable to town victory and i will get nightkilled at some point so u dont have to worry. If im around by lylo then heah thats def easy vote there and i would be surprised if i make it there. I feel ive played a much more obvtown game here than average bc of the toxic fight i got into early -> me rolling VT lines up with how hard i tried to be PR read.

i dont like this kind of poisoned wine

[DkKoba]

i pushed them hard early off of something i could have easily ignored as scum.

I pushed them HARD and i only flipped my read cuz i felt they were frustrated town but i was wrong. Fun fucking fact: town can be wrong

You realize that's more scummy than towny right? Calling Cook town right from the start would be townier. My interpretation is you were trying some distancing move at first, then realized that Cook got more fire than you wanted and backed off and worked in the other direction.

And incredible u look at someone who pushed the momentum onto cook.

You were actively trying to derail it as I outlined in my previous post. You only came back in when you realized you couldn't convince Andres to look the other way.

Look.
You even acknowledged the way cook pushed and egged on esooa vs me was part of why he was scum which implies tvt there

Yes it's the rare point for why you might be town but under a mountain of evidence of your scum-ship with Cook.

hey doesn't matter. This is actuslly better for town cuz nopoint was hella scummy d1 and them being cleared here is good.

Lol wut, I was towny af D1. You seriously thought I was scum even after Cook flipped?

nopoint can we talk thru stuff later.

I think im valuable to town victory and i will get nightkilled at some point so u dont have to worry. If im around by lylo then heah thats def easy vote there and i would be surprised if i make it there. I feel ive played a much more obvtown game here than average bc of the toxic fight i got into early -> me rolling VT lines up with how hard i tried to be PR read.

Have you forgotten your D1 solve Nopoint/Jim/tris? You called scum town and called 3 nearly confirmed town scum. What makes you think scum-team would NK you with that kind of read.

All your "why would I XYZ are WIFOMs". You probably tried for some gambit because you think you were going to be lynched anyway today if you don't try something.

im explaining my pov. u as a mason maybe think "oh im towny as fuck" b ut thats not always how it be.

[DkKoba]

and yes i genuinely had a misread?/

id like to point to among us mafia
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85156

where flea I mistakenly cleared based on one thing i was like "huh this is towny"

but in my outlined analysis I was like "huh not much town here"

I feel there is a strong parallel here with what happened with me re;cook where i was paranoid i was wrong and tunneled on a town cuz thats often what happens on d1 for me

[bugspray]

so you don't have credibility?

[nopointinactingup]

Ok fair enough. I'll take a step back and look again tomorrow with a fresh perspective. It doesn't hurt to have the day continue on business as usual.

Meanwhile, I'll give you one last chance to solve this game.

Given that you will be lynched today dkKoba, what read would you leave behind? Tell me who scum is

[DkKoba]

Ok fair enough. I'll take a step back and look again tomorrow with a fresh perspective. It doesn't hurt to have the day continue on business as usual.

Meanwhile, I'll give you one last chance to solve this game.

Given that you will be lynched today dkKoba, what read would you leave behind? Tell me who scum is

honestly given that i was convinced u were scum i have to do a full reeval and would need to leave a dying read

overall i think u should not interfere with pushes today so we have the best info and only interfere at the end so we have the best wagon analysis.

if ur gonna say its assumed im getting eliminated it makes it easy for scum to just wifom and make up random bullshit here.

[nopointinactingup]

It’s a hypothetical situation I want you to engage in, not an assumption.

[nopointinactingup]

Like how on Earth do you think I was scum after Cook flipped scum

[DkKoba]

Like how on Earth do you think I was scum after Cook flipped scum

im stubborn lol

[DkKoba]

also TMI

[nopointinactingup]

I’ll take that as a compliment that my reads look so good that it sounds tmi. But lmao, I’m still trying to wrap my head around you thinking I’m scum for making a 5-star case against scum.

[MiniMegabyte]

Vote Count 2.2

Geraintm (2):

Egix96, tris

Andresvmb (1):

Geraintm

DkKoba (1):

nopointinactingup

Not Voting (7):

RLotus, Andreavmb, bugsray, Jim Hawkins, Facebones, Flea The Magician, DkKoba

Day Two Ends In:

(expired on 2021-01-27 06:49:00)

[nopointinactingup]

Anyways, I want you to stop fighting me and go scumhunt if that makes sense

[Andresvmb]

I guess the question I’m asking myself right now is: are the Scum more likely to have voted away from Cook (and onto Jim/Me), or did they stay away altogether? Or was Cook bussed? I’m assuming 3 Scum in this game, and I have to think that it’s more likely than not that at least 1 stayed away and/or didn’t bus the 2-Shot Roleblocker in the Team, which is somewhat powerful. Like clearly the Scum have an incentive here not to want to have Cook executed. If Cook had flipped Goon, that’s a different story. So that’s what my instincts are telling me right.

This is why Koba and Egix immediately rise in rankings of potential Scum for me, since Koba was on both Jim and I, and Egix had a bad vote on Lotus around the Jim/Cook votes. I downgraded Tris when looking back because Tris also has a vote where she puts Jim over Cook to move them away from a tie (485). But the big positive for Tris there is that when Cook votes me to put me in a precarious position, Tris moves from me onto Cook. That was an important vote. So I would imagine Tris is potentially okay, but wrong about Egix (despite sitting on nopoint at the end of the day). So yeah, I think Egix voting for me after voting Lotus (and calling Cook too Scummy to be Scum in 491), and staying on me and having a clearly faulty POE make me not want to trust the slot. Frankly, Egix’s votes D1 are a collection of bad. I don’t know that Town goes

that wrong

here, but I could be wrong. And the “re-evaluation” after Cook is guaranteed to flip just reads to me like Scum that doesn’t want to eat an execution for a completely wrong view of the game.

The reasons for geraintm I think are somewhat obvious from my POV now that they’ve come into today voting me. But I don’t want to get tunneled into geraintm and ignore some of the other warning signs.

[Andresvmb]

since Koba was on both Jim and I

This is wrong - I meant Jim and nopointactingup, and defending Cook to me.

[Flea The Magician]

Stream of thought is somewhat towny. But should check on whether this person has done something like that before as scum.

Yup, it's generally NAI for me.