TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)


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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:24 pm

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that is the opposite of the game we are playing but you do you dude
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:25 pm

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PRICKS of echo bay grits, MoI of the thing mafia, etc.
a tried and failed tradition as old as time itself.
if time were like 4 years old
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:26 pm

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actually I'm being facetious, townblocks are really powerful in micros and in games with bad scum
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:30 pm

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duck
IV, dgb, unwnd
Dunnstral (I like him but I'm sheeping)
Oka, Cephrir, Hercule
Dannflor, Flakes, A50, Ythan
Titus, AGar, Hopkirk
JacksonVirgo, ABR
Xtoxm

I'm probably wrong on someone in the 4p core, they're my adorable weak town tonereads
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:38 pm

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here's the full genius of the townbloc hastert rule

even though majority of majority "disenfranchises" people, it weirdly enough requires full cooperation and at sensible discussion among all party members because the party needs its people

and the disenfranished will necessarily form a counter party, running on a platform of ejecting someone else

now you have two competing parties, jockeying for votes with their own partisan views

imagine the content that can be generated through partisanship
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:39 pm

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I guess we could policy lim Oka for high treason.... Just kidding haha.... unless
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:42 pm

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okay but imagination of a future game aside

yeah i agree creating a townbloc d1 and thinking that a winning poe can be found d1 is naively stupid

buttttt... i do think we are at the phase where some semblance of consensus and focus needs to be formed a bit because focused games are weirdly more dynamic and should force the people on the peripheries to not be able to pick and choose what they want to engage with
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 pm

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i haven't played with you in a while tbh

you feel like you drawing in extra scumreads this game or nah
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm

Fine with this
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:46 pm

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so I think the Hopkirk shitpush is a town misplay. the net result is that it pulls credibility from unwnd's actual push on Hopkirk and allows Hopz a powerful rebuttal because the actual case on him was incoherent. The "my team thinks" mistype is something that feels like it comes from a pretty natural mindset - "some members of my team think (and the rest are sheeping)" would have been a more accurate phrasing but it doesn't actually lend credibility to the rhetorical power of the fact unwnd has support for his scum!Kirk read; it's just a sloppy misspeak which allows Hop an easy rebuttal.

unwnd is capable of high effort as scum. they're capable of acting lazy as scum. they're capable of trying to sound natural as scum. I find it a hard to believe that they've constructed a shitty case on Hopkirk and then actually successfully hit send without realising that what they're trying to say makes literally no sense - there's also an utterly unapologetic mindset behind the error that makes me very strongly think it's a real thought.

This is like my second strongest impression behind the IV post which I think broke scumrange
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:47 pm

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it was a townslip in a really non-slippy non-engineered way, the mindset just feels earnestly dopey in a way which I absolutely buy unwnd (a categorically undopey player) being dopey
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:48 pm

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wow xtoxm is collecting a lot of votes

it kinda helps and ruined my reason to vote him which was a mix of annoyance at his logic and wanting to fish on whether he would react but i guess he is going to have to address it no matter what at this point
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:51 pm

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In post 1431, OkaPoka wrote:okay but imagination of a future game aside
I feel like you'd be a blast to play secret hitler with <:
In post 1432, OkaPoka wrote:worst

i haven't played with you in a while tbh

you feel like you drawing in extra scumreads this game or nah
hmm does anyone other than Titus have an actual read on me? I think ABR is posturing and he's the only other one who's claimed to

unwnd said they were looking at me which I await with bated breath :3

we definitely haven't played together for a while. I don't play much anymore and try to allocate my mafia energy a bit more efficiently. :P


pedit: basically exactly. a D1 wagon on Titus is generally not very helpful for finding scum!Titus but my god do people read fascinating stuff into her posts. pressure on Xtoxm here is worth its weight in gold.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:54 pm

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who's on Xtoxm? you, me, dgb, Dunn or am I missing someone?
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:57 pm

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In post 1437, the worst wrote:
In post 1431, OkaPoka wrote:okay but imagination of a future game aside
I feel like you'd be a blast to play secret hitler with <:
In post 1432, OkaPoka wrote:worst

i haven't played with you in a while tbh

you feel like you drawing in extra scumreads this game or nah
hmm does anyone other than Titus have an actual read on me? I think ABR is posturing and he's the only other one who's claimed to

unwnd said they were looking at me which I await with bated breath :3

we definitely haven't played together for a while. I don't play much anymore and try to allocate my mafia energy a bit more efficiently. :P


pedit: basically exactly. a D1 wagon on Titus is generally not very helpful for finding scum!Titus but my god do people read fascinating stuff into her posts. pressure on Xtoxm here is worth its weight in gold.
im so bad at secret hitler
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don't actually know who else has scumreads on you but i may be overestimating the scumreads on you, im just wondering whether you are use to i guess, not collecting townreads? my recollection of you had you becoming a townread magnet
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hercule is on xtoxm as well
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:00 pm

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A006494: Number of possible chess games at the end of the n-th ply plus number of games that terminate (i.e., mate) in fewer than n plies.1, 20, 400, 8902, 197281, 4865617, 119060679, 3195913043, 84999425906, 2439540533153, 69353270203366, 2097660204806910, 62855340727822758, 1981075507583376209

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Vote Count 1.12
Xtoxm
(5): OkaPoka, hercule, the worst, DrippingGoofball, Dunnstral
AGar
(2): Dannflor, Ythan
Titus
(2): AGar, innocentvillager
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(2): Albert B. Rampage, Titus
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JacksonVirgo
(1): Winter Flakes
hercule
(1): JacksonVirgo
Hopkirk
(1): unwnd
unwnd
(1): Hopkirk
Winter Flakes
(1): Cephrir

Not Voting
(1): Xtoxm

With 18 alive, it takes 10 votes to eliminate. Deadline is set for January 29, 5:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2021-01-29 21:00:00).
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:14 pm

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Ty implo

I mean I love that wagon to the point I don't feel remotely stressed about the shitty vc

@oka yeah I used to care a lot more about being townread D1 but that isn't my wincon
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:16 pm

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fair enough ):
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:12 pm

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Lilith largely vibes my reads but would put agar on his own island at the bottom of the read list but it's also largely just because of a real bad vibe and not something she can explain
she found herself nodding along to dgb's case in this post with great enthusiasm though
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:17 pm

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In post 1388, DrippingGoofball wrote:AGar, you didn't think I'd let that fabricated-by-scum case on me slide, did you???
I'm amazed you chose to engage me at all based on how you've been playing this game. No one south of your townlist gets attention. I feel special.

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Alright. Meh, but alright.

Re: DGB,
: Confidence wasn't just limited to RVS. You haven't given any reads that impress me, sorry. The fact that you brought up Hopkirk posting "game avoidance" despite a mountain of evidence to the otherwise nullified your point and was a sketch as hell mistruth to bring into things. Your limited interactions are a red flag because you show no attempt to actually sort the people in the null bin, specifically. That you've refused to engage with scumreads is just another fact that I noted, and I can't help that you were extremely blatant with your selective engagement. The naked readlist wasn't a crux, was just an observation that in kind with everything else, it stinks. Your votes have been mostly lifeless, you haven't tried to rally the troops or even mention those folks, and you haven't tried to sort out any of your nulls. Can't help that the facts are the facts.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:28 pm

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Unwnd, Cephrir, A50, Titus, convene
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:29 pm

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Yeah AGar... You don't even think I'm scum, most of what you said isn't alignment indicative for anyone.

Pick three other players at random, objectively apply the same arbitrary criteria to them and we'll talk.
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:30 pm

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In post 1445, Dunnstral wrote:Unwnd, Cephrir, A50, Titus, convene
Wanna convene Xtoxm while you're at it?
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:31 pm

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In post 1447, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1445, Dunnstral wrote:Unwnd, Cephrir, A50, Titus, convene
Wanna convene Xtoxm while you're at it?
I've tried, they talk past me
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:35 pm

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*convenes*

what are we convening about
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