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[Luca Blight]

Lucas push on me is awful and I don’t know enough about how good they are to determine if it’s bad town or scum

I think you are luca's scumtype; his biggest scumreads in the early game were Cheeky (lurking), PlusJOYAD (super lurking), Hayker (also lurking).
There are some other reasons you look a lil bad, but I wouldn't be willing to push you today for them. It jives with what I know about your play. I don't find Luca's push particularly bad though. You're just his type.

Now chkflp, that I can get behind.

I don't particularly SR lurkers, and my SR on Cheeky wasn't down to lurking.

This game has been carrying two virtually dead slots until D4 (and counting) which is unusual in itself.

[BBmolla]

I’m gonna change my mind I think, I don’t know what benefit Chkflip has to buddy me here and he’s done it all game

[BBmolla]

Has as scum

I really really hate the post mini death post tho

[BBmolla]

My guess right now would be BBMolla, Momrangal, PlusJOYED scumteam, presuming there's four in total.

Wow

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does Molla get this emotional as both allignments or what?

[Luca Blight]

So you're finally reading my case, AFTER you'd already decided it was terrible lol.

[Luca Blight]

Does Molla get this emotional as both allignments or what?

I don't know his meta, but the fact he's clearly hyper-aware of his own meta means it shouldn't be relied upon too much anyway.

[quiet]

@mom
It's mostly a gut read. I've read through the iso three or four times, and there's nothing that jumps out as obviously scummy, a contradiction, or whatever.

What does jump out, though, is that they havn't offered anything that's help solve the game, just followed along with other peoples reads, pushed back on some people, defended some others, but generally gone with the flow. They also started out the day posting tons, high energy, lots of thoughts....and by now, that's trickled off to just a few posts. Also, this is maybe petty, but I was really thinking that either Titus or chkflp would have the VCA after the night was done; it was started the day before.

It's also a direction that we havn't looked at very hard. By putting that read out, I'm hoping to see where other people fall on chkflp.

If there's some strong counterexamples to this, I'd be happy to see them. I know I'm reading chkflp based on what isn't there vs. what is, and that's probably a bit messy. It was a hunch of mine overnight that I couldn't seem to shake, so I've been stareing at it trying to figure out where it's coming from.

[Luca Blight]

My guess right now would be BBMolla, Momrangal, PlusJOYED scumteam, presuming there's four in total.

Wow

Did I hit the jackpot?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Titus

Reason:
A: Mathblade kill points to Titus
B: Their VCA is bad and they are pushing the vote on likely town.

Mathblade kill would be Titus purposefully and for no reason framing herself

Is that what you’re saying in A?

I’m not saying it’s wrong cause Titus could pull that I just want to be clear that the most blatant reason for Maths death was to frame Titus and Titus scum would be aware of that

[BBmolla]

Fairly sure Binatog is town.

Why?

[quiet]

Is Bina up for discussion today? Or can we table that.

[BBmolla]

I don’t think Titus how towntelled once to me this game

[BBmolla]

I lean town on Gamma cause I genuinely believe that Gamma believes their stupid ass tell

[BBmolla]

My Binatog read is pending on their weird claim that “helps both alignments”

[BBmolla]

I’m probably content to sheep Andres and Mom

Mom why are you so convinced on Nor?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Luca

seemsgood.gov

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Titus

Reason:
A: Mathblade kill points to Titus
B: Their VCA is bad and they are pushing the vote on likely town.

Mathblade kill would be Titus purposefully and for no reason framing herself

Is that what you’re saying in A?

I’m not saying it’s wrong cause Titus could pull that I just want to be clear that the most blatant reason for Maths death was to frame Titus and Titus scum would be aware of that

Ok so my thoughts are this:
Scum!Titus (obviously) knows killing Mathblade would implicate her and thusly it would seem pointless to assume this makes Titus scum because mafia typically don't make dumb plays. But Mathblade replacing into a town slot (which we know because doh they died) could in theory be even more catastrophic for scum!Titus because Mathblade has a lot of knowledge about Titus and how they play, so if Titus knows Mathblade might potentially expose her as scum then it is worth the effort of killing the slot and then dealing with the potential aftermath rather than needing to fight Mathblade head on.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay
How does NM compare to IKS in Guitarists?

S'pose it's similar, sure, the difference here being that I was vehemently wrong as the replacement who didn't like that wagon instead of being the guy that didn't have interest in the wagon's reason or purpose until an unbearablyyyyyfun player took up the slot.

Ask a more direct question next time, please, because that's a weighted and pointed question. Don't think I don't see you.

Is Gamma defending N_M?

Actually I was suspecting NM, I just was poking chkflip because NM’s play felt similar to IKS in that other game, and chk defended IKS

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Titus

Reason:
A: Mathblade kill points to Titus
B: Their VCA is bad and they are pushing the vote on likely town.

Mathblade kill would be Titus purposefully and for no reason framing herself

Is that what you’re saying in A?

I’m not saying it’s wrong cause Titus could pull that I just want to be clear that the most blatant reason for Maths death was to frame Titus and Titus scum would be aware of that

Ok so my thoughts are this:
Scum!Titus (obviously) knows killing Mathblade would implicate her and thusly it would seem pointless to assume this makes Titus scum because mafia typically don't make dumb plays. But Mathblade replacing into a town slot (which we know because doh they died) could in theory be even more catastrophic for scum!Titus because Mathblade has a lot of knowledge about Titus and how they play, so if Titus knows Mathblade might potentially expose her as scum then it is worth the effort of killing the slot and then dealing with the potential aftermath rather than needing to fight Mathblade head on.

Very fair, I have no argument against that.

[Gamma Emerald]

What on earth is this absolute garbage tier shit posting.

vote:not_mafia

Absolute rubbish. This is considered allowed play?

VOTE: Not_Mafia

E-1

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these two are also going to be scrutinized if NM flips scum

I am going to want Gamma to explain this in detail.

They looked like rushed bus votes

[Hayker]

The random claims, the lack of care about my vote,

these are simply not things that exist in my scumplay

Meta is useful the less aware players are of their own meta

Oh man you sure got me

My point is I do things for fun, and to do the things I’ve done as scum here as town would not be fun

I absolutely detest this kind of argument. You aren't the only offender here in this game which has made me more hesitant, but it always comea off as believe me guys I swearm I recall so vividly in my first large game how Mastin claimed he must be town because he was having fun. While the argument is obviously not word for word the same, but it's a terribly weak case and defense. At least prpvide some meta examples from your past I can check if you are going to make such a claim. Otherwise it's completely baseless.

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Titus, do we have a history on another site/forum? I don't really care too much about calling me Hawker, just curious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Hayker
Do you have reads? What do you make of Titus and BBMollas vote on you?

[BBmolla]

I absolutely detest this kind of argument. You aren't the only offender here in this game which has made me more hesitant, but it always comea off as believe me guys I swearm I recall so vividly in my first large game how Mastin claimed he must be town because he was having fun. While the argument is obviously not word for word the same, but it's a terribly weak case and defense. At least prpvide some meta examples from your past I can check if you are going to make such a claim. Otherwise it's completely baseless.

mastin is a she

and mastin and I are very different players

look for meta yourself, if I show you then you're letting me make the narrative

[DrippingGoofball]

I posted reads what are your thoughts

There's an iso for that. I've posted plenty of thoughts. Your question is vague, and, sorry to say, lazy.