TM 2021 - Black Flag Nightless

[chennisden]

Also, fucking own that shit instead of coming up with bullshit like “oh btw guys treat this as NAI but be nice <3 pls <3 look how reasonable I am compared to nasty >:( shouty Menalque!! Listen to me instead!!!! But it’s NAI btw”

I was shutting you down for being a dick, not because I wanted to discredit your views

If you want your views not to get shut down so easily maybe try being easier to work with. That way I can't default to "ignore menalque he's being a dick" if you raise valid points.

Yeah sure you were

chennis

That’s bullshit because you started trying to shut me down long before I ever started acting like a dick

From the *checks notes* moment I started pushing your scumbuddy infinity lmao

You used what was a perfectly reasonable point about koba having form on having no fucking idea how to read me (and it’s lowkey disgusting that they’re playing to oog reasons and against wincon) to freeze me and super out for “having bad vibes” or “something being off” and in turn you used that to discredit the push on infinity without having a good reason for doing so

Raising objections is not the same as shutting you down.

The "bad vibes" were

because

you were being actively toxic.

[Menalque]

Gonna be fascinating to see how infinity tries to argue he’s not scum once I’m conftown

By the way if you die here it's nobody's fault but your own, so cut the act out, stat.

Yes so scum!me has what incentive to act this way again?

And yet you’re still acting like I could be scum lmao

This is what I meant when I said you’re too competent to believe I’m really scum here

You’re scum, res ipsa loquitor

[Menalque]

The "bad vibes" were because you were being actively toxic.

This is just a lie

Find one post where I’d been actively toxic at that point

That didn’t start until well later, and any toxicity I’ve had this game has been for the sake of my win condition

[chennisden]

Gonna be fascinating to see how infinity tries to argue he’s not scum once I’m conftown

By the way if you die here it's nobody's fault but your own, so cut the act out, stat.

Yes so scum!me has what incentive to act this way again?

And yet you’re still acting like I could be scum lmao

This is what I meant when I said you’re too competent to believe I’m really scum here

You’re scum, res ipsa loquitor

I dont particularly think you're scum, I'm just really annoyed at you right now.

[Menalque]

Now I remember why towngames are so freaking awful, thanks

If you can’t handle towngames, don’t play

[Menalque]

I don’t care if you’re annoyed with me or not I care about whether you’re voting scum or not

[Menalque]

Please, tell me how you look good for knowingly voting town tomorrow lmao

[Menalque]

I’ll wait

[chennisden]

I may have misremembered and conflated you with Super, but the main point is I only started shutting you down when you started being actively toxic

[chennisden]

Please, tell me how you look good for knowingly voting town tomorrow lmao

Fuck you

[Autumn Leaves]

I frankly don’t give a fuck if it makes the game less fun, what makes the game less fun for me is the fucking incompetence that means that 2.5 votes are on scum

Good for you. I'm sitting here wondering if you're going to realize when I flip town that it wasn't worth it.

Me and others are trying to enjoy the game. Part of mafia is disagreeing. Given that I have access to my role pm, I happen to think that the people who disagree with you may be on to something. I also tend to appreciate when games of mafia do not give me headaches. I know you're going to say "blah blah it's a scum act" but it turns out that yes, screaming for people to listen to you or else they're terrible at the game tends to make it less fun.

UNVOTE:

[chennisden]

Go check who I'm voting before you keep up this brazenly sarcastic and condescending tone.

[chennisden]

If Koba is scum here - which I think is a possibility given the gamestate - you are handing the game to them on a fucking silver platter.

[Autumn Leaves]

I'm also going to point out that mena's play is wildly unethical because there's no way he would be doing this as scum, so it basically makes him confirmed town, and he's aware of this, but I'm not complaining ig

[Menalque]

I may have misremembered and conflated you with Super, but the main point is I only started shutting you down when you started being actively toxic

That’s a lie

[Menalque]

I'm also going to point out that mena's play is wildly unethical because there's no way he would be doing this as scum, so it basically makes him confirmed town, and he's aware of this, but I'm not complaining ig

Say whatever you want infinity you brought this on yourself when you thought you could get away with shitpushing me in bad faith once I repped into what was a dead slot

[DkKoba]

I'm also going to point out that mena's play is wildly unethical because there's no way he would be doing this as scum, so it basically makes him confirmed town, and he's aware of this, but I'm not complaining ig

a general rule of thumb especialy in higher stakes games like a team mafia game -> dont put stock into ate, only positioning and such.

[chennisden]

The "bad vibes" were because you were being actively toxic.

This is just a lie

Find one post where I’d been actively toxic at that point

That didn’t start until well later,

and any toxicity I’ve had this game has been for the sake of my win condition

See the reason I said what I did, and the reason I stopped playing on this site, was because yall apparently think toxicity to win is okay. As if someone's outburst just doesn't count because they're scum. Or being a dick/manipulative (to an extent OUTSIDE what is normally expected) is OK as long as you're scum.

But okay, what if being a decent human being isn't one of your priorities? What if winning this irrelevant game in a fundamentally wack event is the one thing you want to accomplish in life? Then

being toxic loses you the game anyway

, regardless of alignment.

I don't care if you're scum or town here. Please make this game enjoyable for the rest of us, and if you can't, play at a different time.

Thank you.

[DkKoba]

id litearlly be going at it with mena if i didnt have a history with them rn cuz i dont wanna be banned cuz they're 100% scum and i want to make sure i get to keep playing here.

[Menalque]

You know what fuck it

Nobody had any interest in working with me anyway

I’m leaving my vote on infinity and will do so every day I’m alive until he’s dead or I am but I’ll leave thread and just prod dodge until one of those two outcomes occurs

[Menalque]

You can all play pow-wow in the meantime and have your nice little fun game

[chennisden]

I may have misremembered and conflated you with Super, but the main point is I only started shutting you down when you started being actively toxic

That’s a lie

Do you think I'm so bad at scum I deliberately lie when in something provably wrong?

[chennisden]

Menalque you're one of my favorite players on this site but if you're going to be like this I'm going to have to ask you not to play this game.

[Menalque]

cuz they're 100% scum

Gonna look forward to having 2 games to cite in future about how you have no idea what you’re doing and not the vaguest clue in hell of how to read me!

[chennisden]

I'm also going to point out that mena's play is wildly unethical because there's no way he would be doing this as scum, so it basically makes him confirmed town, and he's aware of this, but I'm not complaining ig

I think it's wildly unethical regardless of alignment.