TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[the worst]

quality positive vibes going on here. <3

[unwnd]

Evil is never the answer

Unless it's super funny

[OkaPoka]

[innocentvillager]

i feel like unwnd is taking out his frustration at modern hyperposting town meta at Hopkirk and I think it probably comes from a town mindset in a vacuum

[unwnd]

....That's not how I felt at all actually?

[Albert B. Rampage]

@a50 I think you know me well enough to hate cases, just let me inside your head. Wtf are you seeing with ABR? & Same for DGB I guess but I'm a bit less interested

When did you go from this post to I'm scum and DGB is town?

[Dunnstral]

Saying this day phase is being controlled by scum feels like complaining after the wagon switched from Agar to Xtoxm

Or if not that, it still was never substantiated by pointing at people or explaining how it's being controlled by scum

1606 by Dannflor is a good post, all the posts that come after that are not so good

mmm okay we think we know what you're talking about @Hopkirk, but we're not entirely sure. only thing that peta wants to say is that if it's what we're postulating at is that he thinks unwnd has more integrity than what we think you're accusing him of. spf thinks it's such a specific/complex thought process from you that it probably is town indicative.

and this convo is now so far in the weeds that I am considering it closed.

o have no idea what this conversation is about but it sure smells like angleshooting

From what I'm understanding:

Hopkirk hosted a dnd campaign that is on whoever else's team and he feels they should be able to vouch for him not being here at that time, and also for some reason this is being kept hush-hush (You don't need to cite sources, just say that you were running dnd, you're not going to get called a liar)

[Cephrir]

oh okay. i don't get why that was so important but sure.

[unwnd]

Spoiler:

It's because Dunn is scum

[Dunnstral]

oh okay. i don't get why that was so important but sure.

Disclaimer: There's a large chance that I'm wrong

[AGar]

What can I say but lol. You're flailing here.

FWIW I wouldn't mind a more serious response to her rebuttal because I'm too lazy to study the conversation and figure out who's right

I don't have a "more serious response" because her rebuttal is that "oh you don't actually believe this" and "oh you could apply this to multiple people." My points are in 1361. Nothing DGB has done has convinced me those points were wrong.

*snip* I feel like scum have been controlling the game state and keeping us from consolidating. *snip*

I'm interested in an elaboration on this theory.

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to clarify, which of this is the bit that's the reason for not liking DGB? obviously you're saying a lot of things that you don't really like, but i'm not sure if you're pointing specifically to one or two of them as very specifically the scum indicative ones? could you make it a little clearer for me pls

Top 2 were 1) the contrived bit on you about game avoidance and then doubling down and 2) the scarcity of engagement with anyone that wasn't in DGB's townlist. Other matters are more supporting. Also the quoted post is more of a response - more elaborated reasoning is in 1361.

EBWOP: The patently false part was "agar was actually doing content."

I was very much not really doing content when I was run up.

you had like three or four posts and I thought they were fine / even towny? given how early in the game it was that definitely constitutes doing content relative to us who just shitpost and yell about nothing for the first few pages.

this is a really absurd thing to nitpick, what do you think of literally anything else happening?

Because it feels like you're letting slip information inadvertently. The delivery of your opposition to my wagon was... of the questionable variety where I was paranoid you were scum calling a surefire yeet town preemptively and Shea felt you might be trying to pocket me and to be wary.

I am also still wondering if you actually read 1361 or if you just asked for me to post about DGB to appear like you gave a shit.

re: other things, I don't like the xtoxm wagon's composition and how it's happened. Hopkirk/unwnd has helped me get a better handle on both players and I would like to yeet neither of them right now, and I'm townleaning unwnd after getting a better idea of his thought processes. But I'm also nitpicking because I'm specifically trying to suss out your alignment because I feel that's fairly pressing to me at this point.

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Folks,,,

Once you're aware of your own meta, that meta becomes garbo and this is why meta is trash. Stop pointing out that you're playing to your town meta as proof that you're town. TIA.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

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hot take Hopkirk v unwnd is SvS

Spicy. Go on...
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I have a post to post before the day ends

haaaate this.

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I do not understand the wagon on xtoxm nor how it has come about. Could've missed reasoning, but don't think I have? Composition feels like it sucks, would need a VC to confirm but I've seen some names I don't like on it.

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler:

It's because Dunn is scum

What are you referring to?

[Dunnstral]

hot take Hopkirk v unwnd is SvS

i feel like unwnd is taking out his frustration at modern hyperposting town meta at Hopkirk and I think it probably comes from a town mindset in a vacuum

weird posting

[unwnd]

Lingering thoughts on why I'm very uncomfortable with this gamestate. You said 'well, you didn't direct as to why scum is leading it' and I feel that's not the full picture.

For me, it's not that I think scum is leading it or controlling it, no, rather that they're embedded within some of the townlists

[Dunnstral]

It kind of feels like the story is changing here. It didn't feel like you were talking about me when you said scum was leading the game state earlier, this feels like an explanation you just came up with.

[Cephrir]

it's probably a good idea to always assume scum are somewhere in the townlists, since if they aren't you've most likely already won

[Dunnstral]

it's probably a good idea to always assume scum are somewhere in the townlists, since if they aren't you've most likely already won

Take a look at Unwnd's progression on me

[unwnd]

It is absolutely not just an explanation I came up with, I've been slowly alluding to what's troubling me about gamestate

DGB pulled me over a bit and asked me 'you can spoiler what's bothering you' and it's that right now I think scum are lazily townreading each other and getting away with it lol

[Dunnstral]

So this is all preflip speculation that other unnamed people are townreading me so it's scum lazily townreading each other, and that's why I'm scum?

That's what it sounds like you're saying, and it's not how I would expect you to arrive at reads on day 1.

[unwnd]

More like general annoyance? I don't know where you gathered preflip speculation from this honestly?

Townreads on you are undeserved, you've had the same qualm with me up until now where I am apparently scum for paying attention to your own progression.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm interested in an elaboration on this theory.

I feel like there's scum in DGB/the worst. Nobody's interested in bandwagonning them.

[unwnd]

I'm interested in an elaboration on this theory.

I feel like there's scum in DGB/the worst. Nobody's interested in bandwagonning them.

Spoiler:

And I think that's absolutely intentional and I'm scrapping with motherfuckers. Biased but whatever. That's why I'm not really interested in xtoxm lim because it doesn't personally benefit me.

[Dunnstral]

More like general annoyance? I don't know where you gathered preflip speculation from this honestly?

Townreads on you are undeserved, you've had the same qualm with me up until now where I am apparently scum for paying attention to your own progression.

Yeah I have

But in my case, I think people aren't doing enough to try to read you, and are lazily thinking that you putting in a bit of effort makes you town

In your case, you're alluding that because people are townreading me, I'm scum, and they're scum too

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm interested in an elaboration on this theory.

I feel like there's scum in DGB/the worst. Nobody's interested in bandwagonning them.

Spoiler:

And I think that's absolutely intentional and I'm scrapping with motherfuckers. Biased but whatever. That's why I'm not really interested in xtoxm lim because it doesn't personally benefit me.

What did I just read?

[Dunnstral]

And that's where preflip comes in

Your reason for suspecting me is because you don't like the townreads on me, and apparently unspecified members of that group are scum, so that makes me scum