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[Mizzytastic]

coffee (n.)

"drink made from the ground and roasted seeds of a tree originally native to Arabia and Abyssinia," c. 1600, from Dutch

koffie

, from Turkish

kahveh

, from Arabic

qahwah

"coffee," which Arab etymologists connected with a word meaning "wine," but it is perhaps rather from the

Kaffa

region of Ethiopia, a home of the plant (coffee in Kaffa is called

būno

, which itself was borrowed into Arabic as

bunn

"raw coffee").

The early forms of the word in English indicate a derivation from Arabic or Turkish:

chaoua

(1598),

cahve

,

kahui

, etc. French

café

, German

Kaffe

are via Italian

caffè

.

The first coffee-house in Mecca dates to the 1510s; the beverage was in Turkey by the 1530s. It appeared in Europe c. 1515-1519 and was introduced to England by 1650. By 1675 the country had more than 3,000 coffee houses and coffee had replaced beer as a breakfast drink, but its use there declined 18c. with the introduction of cheaper tea. In the American colonies, however, the tax on tea kept coffee popular.

Meaning "a light meal at which coffee is served" is from 1774. As a shade or color resembling coffee, 1815.

Coffee-bean

is from 1680s.

Coffee-mill

is from 1690s;

coffee-spoon

is from 1703;

coffee-pot

is from 1705;

coffee-cup

is from 1762.

Coffee-shop

is from 1838.

Coffee-cake

is from 1850 as "cake in which coffee is an ingredient."

Coffee break

attested from 1952, at first often in glossy magazine advertisements by the Pan-American Coffee Bureau.

Did you drink a cup of coffee on company time this morning? Chances are that you did—for the midmorning coffee break is rapidly becoming a standard fixture in American offices and factories. [The Kiplinger Magazine, March 1952]

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BBMolla (3): Luca Blight, Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball

[E-5]

Luca Blight (2): Andresvmb, BBMolla
Titus (1): NorwegianboyEE
NorwegianboyEE (1): Momrangal
chkflip (1): quiet
PlusJOYED (1): chkflip
Hayker (1): Titus

Not Voting (4): Vaxkiller, Binatog13, PlusJOYED, Hayker

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

[Hayker]

If Hayker has some input on events so far that would be great.

First two days of this game were beyond frustrating to read through, and still are. Day 3 was only a little better.

people i feel good about atm are

Quiet
Excellent long and thorough explanations. Asks questions. seems like a newer player playing town. This one is more a lean than a read.
Also yes, I am not really for a plusjoyed execution atm.

Sorry about breaking site rules, my bad. Thank you for reminder chkflip

DGB
Most of my interaction this game before it went to absolute hell was with DGB. The "slip" I saw looked odd, but the language barrier backs it up, as well as the interaction we had just had a nice town vibe to it.

Luca
I really like the level of analysis I've seen on the past few pages especially. I'll admit part of it is how BB has rubbed me the wrong way since the start. Luca has continued to delve into these issues, showing concerns and doubts here and there, in a very town way.

someone i want to read their full iso of

Andres, I remember just flip flopping on my thoughts throughout all of their posts. I need to reanalyze





VOTE: bbmolla
Miller claim, wanting to end the days quickly. TALKING ABOUT STUFF THAT TOTOALLY ISN'T IN THEIR SCUMPLAY .insisting they wouldn't do actions unless they feel fun, and they wouldn't as scum. just...no. Maybe you don't have the exact same meta as Mastin for sure, but tells can be the same.

note: apologies on mis-gendering Mastin, played with years ago.

[quiet]

Are you actually trying to say that I'm scum because I just stated that I'm fucking V/LA, quiet?

Mom I haven’t called you scum today.

Or really any day?

I was talking about about Plus and Hayker. Where did I call you scummy?

[quiet]

Also please tell me when the fuck did I sheep people, and just "went with flow"

This is my chkflp read.

That was about chkflp.
I’m sorry I’m really fucking lost I do not think I’ve attacked you at all. I’m really sorry if something I did got fucked up. My fault.

[chkflip]

Yeah I thought that was kinda fever dreamy but I did completely overlook a claim, so. I think Mom just needs a couple me days or something likely. Seems it was a misinterpretation. I wouldn't take it to heart, quiet.

[quiet]

@Binatog
Can you please clarify your claim.

Can we get a couple voices to chime in on if we think this is a good idea?

If Bino has a role that gives him info on visits, then we’re starting to get into territory where we need to solve the game or we might be putting remaining PRs at risk. Alternatively, if Bino is indeed a PR, there’s now a good chance they die tonight as they’re for sure outed.

I don’t know what the right play here is.

[quiet]

What I mean is that they might die tonight, so maybe we need the info.

[chkflip]

That was me and you D1 about oh hahaha Not_Mafia's claim, go figure. It's D4. If Bin has info, it's too late -- he claimed so he really needs to share. Though I'm getting more and more wary because I see no difference in what Bin claimed v what we already have flipped from N1 unless my interpretation of what happened is way off the wall.

The difference between the discussion of D1 claims and D4 claims should be there but I'll be happy to reiterate if I'm at all confusing here.

[quiet]

Okay, I’m not going to take those posts to heart. I think it’s better if I just don’t respond. I’m doing the best I can, I don’t mean to attack anyone ever, and Momrangal, I have not posted about you or put a read forward about you today, other then maybe asking BBMola to weigh in on your slot as a way to get some info to try to sort him, so please don’t take anything I’ve said as a slight towards you.

If there is something you think I should be doing better, if I did offend some other place, please tell me and I’ll fix it. I’ll stop abbreviating your name, which is the only thing I can think of that might be a slight.

[quiet]

It's not like that. It's like [Player] was visited by this role. Get it?

This is the claimed role.
Yeah okay this seems safe to post the logs of, I’ll throw in my support. Bino, let’s see what roles have been visiting whom.

[quiet]

I will note that this role is substantively different from the Watcher role, which says WHO visited. This says the ROLE of the person that visited. Honestly I buy them being in the same setup.

[chkflip]

Re-read the Role Watcher that flipped and tell me Bin is claiming something different.

[quiet]

You’re right. That’s the same role.
Huh.

[DrippingGoofball]

You’re right. That’s the same role.
Huh.

There's an explanation for that, possibly.

[BBmolla]

Just because it's a "bad tell" doesn't mean it can't still catch scum.

that is exactly what that means

except it literally got scum limmed in a very recent game
don't talk shit about what you don't know

If this time and that time are the only times it works 50% of the time.

If a tell works 50% of the time it's a shit tell

I mean if not then fuck man I might as well make up a fucking tell each time I call someone scum

Luca is scum cause of the Luca tell, it's a tell where wherever they say I'm scum they're scum

[BBmolla]

On the bright side, here's gonna be some fresh meta to fight off morons in the future who are using the arguments ya'll are using so ty

[chkflip]

Knowing 16 should be in 15 is mafia 101; forgetting to do so has a heavily negative connotation.

I call it the BBmolla tell.

#TrustTheProcess

Don't steal my schtick, bitch.

[BBmolla]

Lmfao

[BBmolla]

I was lying so technically you weren’t wrong and I’ve did that same thing when I claimed Miller as scum before

Sounds like a legit tell to me

[Andresvmb]

Re-read the Role Watcher that flipped and tell me Bin is claiming something different.

I moved away from Norwegian on the back of that Claim actually, without realizing this.

[Andresvmb]

His posts are towny for me. Aside from that, that probably fits my read and actions. I'll post my gathered info if you want, but this might be beneficial to scum.

You seemed to be claiming a mechanical result. That’s why I wanted clarification. If it’s entirely reads based, then no I’m not particularly interested in following though helping explain where you’re coming from could be helpful to others.

That's why I am asking some possible alignment from a role. I'll post my logs if you want. It might be too early, but it helps both teams I guess.

If you have identified Norwegian as a Role Cop, which is what you seem to be suggesting, then you should state it clearly.

@Binatog there’s a few possibilities here. I won’t go into them we need some additional information and mechanically we’re better off not saying much.

I saw what they were claiming, and figured I would not press it too much. It makes sense that there’s a Role Cop on the hands of the Scum, because of the NK on Ranny.

[Andresvmb]

Also, we really should have executed Hayker. How is that player not Scum again? Molla just seems like Town to me based on today.

[Andresvmb]

I’ll catch up when I have some time I’m really busy right now.

[Binatog13]

Why is Momrangal Town? Please elaborate.

I can semi-confirm that Momrangal is town (for now). But there is also possibility that they are scum too, but high chance of being town, although I don't like their read on Norwegian as scum.

Spoiler: Nothing

Momrangal was visited by a Rolecop (Night 3). I know that Town Role Watcher died, this might make me suspicious after all. This reveals my role after all. For me, this is the right time to claim my role for potential early game solve.

Spoiler: Town!Norwegian

He is trying to solve the game. For me, his reads are accurate. Norwegian was visited by Lazy Roleblocker (Night 2).

I can also say that Gamma is town due to his current reads rn.

[Binatog13]

The scum team might be Bbmolla, Plusjoyed, and Titus, with 4 scum team instead of 5. DGB is now null for me.