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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:24 pm

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u realize like i hard pressed cook in the right places to make his play much more obviously scummy when he made his shitty reads list right?


like my MO as scum is to generally try to ignore stuff that my partners are doing that are scummy in order to not have an excuse to push on them.
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:28 pm

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In post 326, Cook wrote:
In post 317, tris wrote:
In post 314, Cook wrote: Also, yes, when a new person comes in, I revert a read to null. I feel like this is fairly-self-explanatory, but if not, I can explain.
sure. go ahead.
pedit: because one of them had to be scum and one of them had to be town and I was more confident in Koba.
why does one of them have to be scum?
why is anger scummy? why
isn't
anger scummy? this is a game. why get upset about it?
welcome to https://forum.mafiascum.net/

is it more likely that scum would be angry?

PEDIT: what bugspray just said
1. Replacement play slots differently, so I don't want to base my reads off of how someone else who is no longer playing is playing the slot. Separate the player from the role they play when a replacement happens until they start to engage.

2. Too off-the-cuff and not very orchestrated, which would indicate town-on-town, but then in that argument, neither one backed down despite anyone else posting anything that might confirm the other one as Town, thus leading me to believe one of them had to be scum who could no longer back down without risking a vote.

3. Thanks. Scum might be collected, but they might also be trying to propagate a fight and waste valuable scumhunting time.
cook really hard tried to push that interaction as TvS ^^^ fyi
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:29 pm

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In post 344, Cook wrote:
In post 339, Facebones wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 270, Cook wrote:My Reads
Scum
(-5, -4),
Scumlean
(-3 to 0), Null(-),
Townlean
(0 to 3),
Town
(4 to 5)

Andresvmb, Prince Zuko, Facebones,
DkKoba
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Esooa
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nopointinactingup
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bugspray
, Jim Hawkins, geraintm,
Cook
, RLotus, Egix96, Polaris

Nullpoint right now: -0.5.

Spoiler: What I Mean By All Of This
• Those numbers are ones I'll be referencing when I'm talking about changing my reads.
The lower the number the scummier you are.

• The "nullpoint" is roughly where I gauge all my null reads at.


Post 263 and on
bump DkKoba from a 2 to a 1
due to anger behind the post.
In post 279, Cook wrote:
In post 273, DkKoba wrote:why do u scumread esooa so much? I think she is null here so far, which is where my frustration lies.
I want to flip her is the short answer.
It's closer to a 3.5ish thing
so it's more on the low end of my reads but I still just want to not deal with her.
In post 312, tris wrote:@cook

two things pop out for me.

why was esooa the scummy participant in the argument while koba was townie?
In post 314, Cook wrote:
It was a read to try to get a policy elimination.


I'm not really sure why I did it either. I won't use reads to do that again, either in this game or in any future.

Also, yes, when a new person comes in, I revert a read to null. I feel like this is fairly-self-explanatory, but if not, I can explain.

pedit: because one of them had to be scum and one of them had to be town and I was more confident in Koba.

>The lower the number, the scummier
>Esooa is closer to 3.5
>DkKoba went from 2 to 1
>You were more confident in Koba being town

Can you explain this please? It seems a bit contradictory.

Also, Why try to policy elim Esooa when you think they're more towny than DkKoba? Just doesn't make sense to me.
In post 315, bugspray wrote:okay ignoring the rest of that why would you want a policy elim this early into d1
This still requires an answer.
Supposed to say NEGATIVE three point five.

Also, I wanted a policy elim to shut one of them up so we could get back to scumhunting.
do u think scum pushes policy elims on their partners' slots?
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:32 pm

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In post 321, DkKoba wrote:vc pls?
In post 322, MiniMegabyte wrote:
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Not Voting (8): geraintm, Prince Zuko, Facebones, Jim Hawkins, Andresvmb, DkKoba, bugspray, Cook

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In post 323, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: Cook
lmao me rereading drunk me and seeing how cook was following me around like a stray mutt
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:32 pm

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oh whoops forgot that was in my multiquote but i was like ?? i looked at VC and wanted to see where vote swere at so i could place one on cook
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:33 pm

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In post 441, Cook wrote:i'm not even following the wim thing

you know what

i'm gonna grab a notes pt and start taking down my reads there
wait ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:34 pm

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In post 459, Jim Hawkins wrote:
In post 455, Andresvmb wrote:Okay we’re definitely getting somewhere. That completely survivalist and Scummy vote means we might actually be right here.
My vote on Cook is for his sheeping along after DkKoba on several votes, trying to start band wagons. How is that survivalistic? Cook's vote on me is simply because DkKoba voted for me....and I'm not even sure what Dk's justification was, other than being drunk.
forever town ,... im sorry jim drunk me had trash reads this game

probably only good at catching active scum
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 483, MiniMegabyte wrote:
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Cook (4):
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nopointinactingup (1):
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Polaris (2):
Prince Zuko, RLotus


Not Voting (2): geraintm, Facebones

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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:36 pm

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In post 513, Cook wrote:
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Likely Town
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Null
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:38 pm

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In post 321, DkKoba wrote:vc pls?
In post 322, MiniMegabyte wrote:
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Cook (3):
Polaris, nopointinactingup, tris
Facebones (1):
RLotus
nopointinactingup (1):
Egix96


Not Voting (8): geraintm, Prince Zuko, Facebones, Jim Hawkins, Andresvmb, DkKoba, bugspray, Cook

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In post 323, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: Cook
wait yall notice how cook slowly pushed bugspray down like with no explaination?
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:38 pm

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oh ffs i accidentally quoted that again. im in multiple tabs and trying to look thru the whole game
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 546, Facebones wrote:Jim very clearly said he couldn't see Cook as scum, but was open to hearing peoples cases. I think people realised they couldn't form a convincing case on Cook based on his unorthodox posting style. They noticed Jim wasn't buying into the potential mislim and scum didn't like people coming up with their own thoughts and opinions. The fact that the very next wagon was on Jim doesn't seem like just a coincidence to me.

DkKoba comes in drunk and places a vote for Polaris, says they want to elim Polaris the most out of everyone, then 5 posts later votes Jim without any explanation. No more than half an hour after, Jim is at -3.

What I don't get is why Cook decided to get on the Jim wagon after Jim was seemingly the only one to disagree with the Cook wagon.
The subsequent Jim vote on Cook seems very OMGUS.

I kinda want to keep who I think are the suspicious actors to myself for the time being.
defending cook here ^
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:42 pm

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nopoint, do you think as scum i would tell cook to just sheep me all the time?
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:43 pm

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In post 623, DkKoba wrote:god cook is so obviously town
@mod pls delete this post postgame :(
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:45 pm

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In post 321, DkKoba wrote:vc pls?
In post 322, MiniMegabyte wrote:
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Cook (3):
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Facebones (1):
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nopointinactingup (1):
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Not Voting (8): geraintm, Prince Zuko, Facebones, Jim Hawkins, Andresvmb, DkKoba, bugspray, Cook

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In post 323, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: Cook
In post 651, Cook wrote:Fluffy sheepy wool coating? Nah fam it's warm and fuzzy why would I take it off?
In post 207, DkKoba wrote:esooa if u keep just saying things and then refusing to answer ur just gonna tank ur credibility even if ur right. like relax and actually realize that u know some of us here don't know the alignment of ur role PM and are reasonably paranoid of u and need proof and cant just take u on face value.
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Now, I see someone wants to grill me. Snag this pixellated hat and make it into a panini.
^^^why did cook just randomly mention someone clearly not going to be wagoned?
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:45 pm

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oh ffs it keeps happening.

but like ................ this is a cook that is expecting to survive to d2.
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:46 pm

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I want to know what facebones/bugspray actually think.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:47 pm

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In post 665, nopointinactingup wrote:I like Lotus and Facebones tone and analysis. dk still hasn't explained why jim is scum, pretty scummy.

I don't really see cook newbtown here. In addition to the scummy things he did, his post reeks of scum trying to get through the day without making trouble. Contrived surface-level analysis, no reads, opportunistic voting pattern, it's all there.

I also got some nice townvibes from Bugspray, Egix, Jim, Zuko. Maybe flea though I don't understand the point of the wall o' text.
ugh how do u actually see "opportunistic voting pattern"

but not that i am town cuz he is just sheeping me
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:48 pm

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list of ppl to lim that will win the game IMO ->

bugspray -> facebones -> geratim -> andres(if still alive)/tris
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:49 pm

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ok im gonna pause for now and take a break cuz i think i reached a pretty confident point so far
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:21 pm

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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm

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haven't actually read the iso like i've intended yet, but i want my vote here. mostly due to the point i brought up earlier.

VOTE: facebones
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:13 pm

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So I shall give you the VC I have in my pouch
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:13 pm

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Even if it's bad, don't tell me because I will say ouch.
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