TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[unwnd]

So what you're saying is that your argument is dumb meta but also it's TM tells

[the worst]

can someone please give me like a tl;dr on scumreading dgb I don't get it

[Dunnstral]

So what you're saying is that your argument is dumb meta but also it's TM tells

You can call it dumb meta all day long

At the end of the day you're still acting super weird in the context of this game

[the worst]

I'm at the point where I kind of have to assume the ABR of old is gone and this one has just forgotten how reading comprehension and social skills work

[unwnd]

Dunn your argument is meta in a TM game where meta of all things should be thrown out of the fucking window

I think you're weird in this game, I make the decisions at the end of the day. I make the posts. If Maria had a scumread on you I feel like you're trying to say I'm leading on you for..faking that? Or her saying to me 'hey unwnd it'd be sick as mafia if you said i have a scumread on dunn teehee'

[OkaPoka]

anybody ever know what goes on whenever dunn and maria start talking to each other

Stop this misrep

I never talked to Maria, unwnd is the one who brought that in

yeah i know but this feels like another extension of a dunn maria interaction where both of you are referencing some common context or background that looks arcane to me

how should unwnd be interacting and sorting you? is there something special that unwnd should be doing because of shared context? is it just because unwnd isn't pointing out the weird stuff? what is the weird stuff dunn is doing unwnd? what was the ++++scum equity reason here:

okay so let's form the read unwnd committee

dunnstral, titus, innocent villager are the members of this committee

Unwnd saying they'd be willing to vote for me with no further explanation is +++scum especially with his team, for multiple reasons.

is it obvious stuff or meta stuff?

[Dunnstral]

Unwnd's argument feels bad faith in a way where he's trying to bring up meta and maria and other arguments that look worse, while being unable to substantiate his own claims

[unwnd]

YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STARTED IT DUNN LOL

[Dunnstral]

Oka I've explained that within the past few pages

And no, I'm not talking to Maria.

[OkaPoka]

sure okay

if we turn the clock back to post 1397, what were the reasons then and why did it specifically apply to unwnd's team? I assumed unwnd team was an implication about maria but if not do explain more

[Dunnstral]

YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STARTED IT DUNN LOL

No, what I mean is:

It looks like you keep referencing what you see as the easiest arguments to attack and bringing them out over and over again, while ignoring what is problematic for you

[OkaPoka]

"preflip" and "weirdness" are purely recent conceptions i want to go back to post 1397 and start there

[unwnd]

What's problematic for me?

What?

[Dunnstral]

sure okay

if we turn the clock back to post 1397, what were the reasons then and why did it specifically apply to unwnd's team? I assumed unwnd team was an implication about maria but if not do explain more

Turn the clock back to posts 1791, 1792, 1798

[unwnd]

Yes please do and see how stupid this argument is

[Dunnstral]

What's problematic for me?

What?

I'm saying that you're ignoring some of my points in favor of what is easier to attack for you

[OkaPoka]

sure okay

if we turn the clock back to post 1397, what were the reasons then and why did it specifically apply to unwnd's team? I assumed unwnd team was an implication about maria but if not do explain more

Turn the clock back to posts 1791, 1792, 1798

we can get there later but i regret not asking then so im going to pretend i never messed up and turn it back to 1397

for what its worth i do agree the dunn read appeared out of nowhere from unwnd, here are the two posts that include dunn before 1397:

Dunn/Dann/Herc/ maaaaybe DGB/winterflakes

Kinda only agree on one, then the most defined read I have would be Dunn purely based on experience (even if it's Null), wherein he establishes himself later and if scum is caught on who he votes.

Right now outside of hopkirk vote I am looking at

Flakes/the worst/Titus/Dunn

Then maybe DGB. I can't remember why I scumread IV but it's probably outdated. I want to look into AGar more sincerely before I decide if it was a great vote after all

then you respond with:

okay so let's form the read unwnd committee

dunnstral, titus, innocent villager are the members of this committee

Unwnd saying they'd be willing to vote for me with no further explanation is +++scum especially with his team, for multiple reasons.

Clearly because the read appeared suddenly and without explanation. So why is it +++scum specifically for unwnd's team? I assumed unwnd team really means mariaR given dunn n maria are like peanut butter and jelly but if im wrong im wrong. Do you mean that the team should townread you, is the read the issue at that moment? What's the issue and why?

[Cephrir]

yeah it would be great if yall could make this argument comprehensible to a layperson

[Dunnstral]

I assumed unwnd team really means mariaR

well, you're wrong, I meant his whole team.

You guys are asking me to explain things 3 or 4 times and it's not really what I want to talk about.

[OkaPoka]

I assumed unwnd team really means mariaR

well, you're wrong, I meant his whole team.

You guys are asking me to explain things 3 or 4 times and it's not really what I want to talk about.

okay sorry just bear with me, you mean the whole team.

but what about the whole team specifically makes unwnd's choice to have you appear as a scumread without explanation... scummy?

presumably most people who would have you appear as a scumread without explanation wouldn't be that AI or at least not + +++++ + + scum equity right?

[Dunnstral]

Do you mean that the team should townread you, is the read the issue at that moment? What's the issue and why?

The issue is the way he is reading me is not consistent with his team looking at this game with him being town, and also doesn't feel like what he does on his own

How does he go from null to scum with no explanation (it is later explained that this is because of eldritch signs and star constellations, and also because somebody else townread me)

[unwnd]

Why can't i just have a read i want to express in the thread to see how others feel about it lol

[Dunnstral]

Dunn/Dann/Herc/ maaaaybe DGB/winterflakes

Kinda only agree on one, then the most defined read I have would be Dunn purely based on experience (even if it's Null), wherein he establishes himself later and if scum is caught on who he votes.

Right now outside of hopkirk vote I am looking at

Flakes/the worst/Titus/Dunn

Then maybe DGB. I can't remember why I scumread IV but it's probably outdated. I want to look into AGar more sincerely before I decide if it was a great vote after all

The progression between these two posts is nonexistant and feels fake, but I wasn't going to vote him just based on this because it wasn't a smoking gun, it was just weird

Why can't i just have a read i want to express in the thread to see how others feel about it lol

Didn't you refuse to express it multiple times?

Also, you're doing that thing where you add a nervous lol to the end of your post, which feels out of character!

[unwnd]

This only came to fruition cause you confronted me, man

I'm just explaining my thought process

[unwnd]

No....?

Dunn this is insane